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In Topic: Sondhi Returns To Lumpini Stage

2012-05-27 16:02:51

View Poststickyrice2000, on 2012-05-27 10:58:05, said:

Just when everything is turning back to normal from many situations and events that happened in Thailand, Mr. Sondhi and the PADs have to return and start the rally again.  Can you the Reds and PADs just stay in your holes and buried yourselves there for the sake of this country?
Things are far from returning to normal! The cause of the color demonstrations is still alive and triesmliterary kicking in Thailand's doors!

In Topic: Bangkok: Huge Turnout Expected At Red-Shirt Rally Today

2012-05-20 20:22:10

View Post473geo, on 2012-05-20 20:00:55, said:

View PostSkywalker69, on 2012-05-20 19:49:10, said:

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I believe at the moment Thaksin is convicted of financial irregularity.

You make it sound´s like he got a parking ticket.

And if you read KireB post #320..........it would appear he may have been singled out of a long line........interesting eh?
Which doesn't mean it's a parking ticket! The fact that he is part of  a long line of despotic criminals don't make his crimes less relevant!

In Topic: Bangkok: Huge Turnout Expected At Red-Shirt Rally Today

2012-05-20 19:29:11

View Post473geo, on 2012-05-20 16:24:44, said:

I don't need to elaborate, like many, you need to accept that Thailand has not arrived at this place in time due to one man. When you can adapt and broaden your view, read a little of the information available outside Tvisa, you may understand. Thaksin has played a part in the proceedings no doubt, another massive miscalculation by the would be controllers, but you understimate the importance of the real power brokers in action. If you understand you will have noticed the shifting sands that await Thai politics yet again.......
I do actually agree with most of what you write here! Thaksin is indeed a continuation of the corrupt lot of politicians that came before him and I agree that he forms only a part of the real active power brokers. Unfortunately we cannot elaborate on the others as you might well understand! But your use of words like: " when you can adapt, broaden your view, read a little, you underestimate, if you understand, are a bit too much! Almost cocky!

Whether Thaksin is a continuation or not, corrupt politicians have to go to prison! Welcome to the new world, Saddam got a trial, Milosevic and Mladic got theirs, Kadaffi is past history and so is Osama, and what about Mubarak? Thaksin is and was a corrupt criminal, called politician,  and will have to held responsible! What happened in the last 80 years in Thailand is irrelevant if the Thais want to move on in this global world! And the whole red shirt movement is not one, but ten steps back in time.  Do you understand?

In Topic: Bangkok: Huge Turnout Expected At Red-Shirt Rally Today

2012-05-20 19:12:01

View PostOzMick, on 2012-05-20 17:53:40, said:

View Posttlansford, on 2012-05-20 16:35:55, said:

View Postgand, on 2012-05-20 14:26:24, said:

The red/black shirts committed the first and many subsequent acts of violence before the overly patient gov't sent the army in and even then they waited even longer before finally dealing with these criminals.

As far as I know, that is incorrect. If we are talking about April 10 2010, and I think we are, then the first victim was a protester shot by a sniper. The violence by the MIB did not come first.

But that does not excuse the violence by either side, does it?
Would that be "unidentified sniper"? And exactly what purpose would the random killing of a protester serve the RTA who are just about to start a crowd dispersal operation with troops equipped with shields and batons? BTW a non-lethal strategy

How do you totally discount that that killing was carried out by the MIB? Who benefits?
Do you think it is normal for an RTA sniper team of 2 to collude to a senseless thrill murder?
Quote from one of the best films ever, JFK (1991):
"Why did it happen? Who benefited? Who has the power to cover it up?"

The army and certainly the government at the time, who had shown an extremely dose of restraint, certainly didn't benefit from the killings at Kok Wua/Democracy Monument! This is quite a sanctuary for those with knowledge about Thai history! The body snatching and parading of corpses (poor martyrs!) right after the showdown also points in one direction, and one direction only sorry to conclude!

In Topic: Bangkok: Huge Turnout Expected At Red-Shirt Rally Today

2012-05-20 16:16:14

View Post473geo, on 2012-05-20 16:07:52, said:

View PostKireB, on 2012-05-20 15:24:46, said:

View PostSomTumTiger, on 2012-05-20 12:34:53, said:

Perhaps a better label would be the TV Reds and the TV Anti-Reds.  Same thought applies though. Neither are capable of compromise or admission that fault lies among all parties.
Quite hard to compromise after 89 or more people died! The people who started this structured and organized mayhem must be held accountable and go to jail till the end of times!

The law states certain people in authority cannot face charges... an election result was pre-empted by manipulating events.......a government installed......the door was thrown open for rebellion and dissent... ..yes you are right...go to the cause not the effect.....and while you are at it look into why no charges have been laid regarding the Tak Bai incident you consistently refer to.......
I think that the mastermind behind the organized mayhem is no authority at all! He's actually on the run, hiding cowardly under a desert rock, using his ill gained wealth to create havoc in what was once his homeland! The rest of your post makes are not clear to me, please elaborate.

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