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#5279883 U.S. Finds Remains Of Soldier Missing From Vietnam War Plane Crash

Posted chooka on 2012-05-07 11:58:08

View PostXangsamhua, on 2012-05-07 11:11:51, said:

View Postsoftgeorge, on 2012-05-07 10:20:46, said:

View PostCredo, on 2012-05-07 07:30:43, said:

It sounds like an oversight.  When I was young, I lived in a small community with a manufacturing plant which was affiliated with a company.  A small technical group came from various countries in Europe.  My father was a member of the VFW and one of the guys at the plant was from either Germany or a German allied country.  He had served in the Military against the Allied forces.  

He was well-liked in the community and it didn't take long for him to be invited to the VFW bashes--OK they were drunken parties--and he could put away more beer than most.  It was a small community and most had served in the Pacific theatre.  I doubt he was allowed to officially join, but he did attend.  

I met him.  A charming, well-liked and respected person in the community.  

Also being not far from Canada, there were servicemen who traveled down for those occasions as well.
A soldier is a soldier no matter what side he is on.  He is a son/daughter, brother or father and he feels the pain and fears just like his enemy.  He may not like you on the battlefield but he respects who you are and what you fight for.  He is just like you and wants to go home.  No soldier wants to die but they will freely give up thier lives for thier mates and country without questioning the rights or wrongs.  A soldier does not start wars they fight and die in them.  When the war is over they all go back to thier lives as butchers, accountants and your nieghbour and those that paid the ultimate deserve to go home or be with thier mates no matter how long it takes.   No soldier is ever forgotten and always respected those that lay with thier mates in the many war graves around the world are taken in by those who were once the enemy and provided with all due respect.  When the conflicts are over have a beer with your once enemy and remember he is no different to you and he didn't do anything more or less than you. Show him/her respect for what they were, a soldier.

I was at an RAAF(AR) dining-in on the evening the Gulf War (Desert Storm) had just started and a Squadron Leader ADG proposed a toast to the members of the profession of arms on both sides of the conflict.  I don't know if this is normal, but the proposal was accepted with good grace and servicemen on both sides were recognized.

That is a sign of respect for the soldier/the man and not the army or the country he fights for.  Those that have never given thier time to thier country and served in the military may find this a little harder to understand but a serviceman/woman will understand.


#5279630 U.S. Finds Remains Of Soldier Missing From Vietnam War Plane Crash

Posted softgeorge on 2012-05-07 10:20:46

View PostCredo, on 2012-05-07 07:30:43, said:

It sounds like an oversight.  When I was young, I lived in a small community with a manufacturing plant which was affiliated with a company.  A small technical group came from various countries in Europe.  My father was a member of the VFW and one of the guys at the plant was from either Germany or a German allied country.  He had served in the Military against the Allied forces.  

He was well-liked in the community and it didn't take long for him to be invited to the VFW bashes--OK they were drunken parties--and he could put away more beer than most.  It was a small community and most had served in the Pacific theatre.  I doubt he was allowed to officially join, but he did attend.  

I met him.  A charming, well-liked and respected person in the community.  

Also being not far from Canada, there were servicemen who traveled down for those occasions as well.
A soldier is a soldier no matter what side he is on.  He is a son/daughter, brother or father and he feels the pain and fears just like his enemy.  He may not like you on the battlefield but he respects who you are and what you fight for.  He is just like you and wants to go home.  No soldier wants to die but they will freely give up thier lives for thier mates and country without questioning the rights or wrongs.  A soldier does not start wars they fight and die in them.  When the war is over they all go back to thier lives as butchers, accountants and your nieghbour and those that paid the ultimate deserve to go home or be with thier mates no matter how long it takes.   No soldier is ever forgotten and always respected those that lay with thier mates in the many war graves around the world are taken in by those who were once the enemy and provided with all due respect.  When the conflicts are over have a beer with your once enemy and remember he is no different to you and he didn't do anything more or less than you. Show him/her respect for what they were, a soldier.


#5273960 U.S. Finds Remains Of Soldier Missing From Vietnam War Plane Crash

Posted theblether on 2012-05-04 19:48:22

View PostXangsamhua, on 2012-05-04 19:20:39, said:

View Posttheblether, on 2012-05-04 02:11:53, said:

God bless Captain Charles R. Barnes, and God rest him.

His story was one of the untold, amongst the millions that are untold, that is the way of the world. Right now there is a movie being made about one of his compatriots Eric Lomax, telling his version of the story and aftermath.

Respect for your fellow man is the foundation of civilization.

Well said, the blether.

There was a TV film made in 1995 of Eric Lomax's experiences and the lead-up to his rather tense reunion with the Japanese interpreter who caused him so much anguish during his imprisonment.  It was called Prisoners in Time, but seems to have faded into oblivion, so I'm very glad a new film is being is being made.  The telefilm led me to read Eric Lomax's book.

Eric Lomax's book "The Railway Man" is one of the most moving books I've ever read, and one I would recommend to all - men and women of whatever experience and persuasion regarding the rights and wrongs of war and military duty.  I've seen it on the shelves at Asia Books in recent years, so I expect it's available.  The Neilson-Hays Library also holds it.

I'll look out for it, there is a movie being made in Edinburgh at the moment starring the Oscar winners Colin Firth, ( The Kings Speech ) and Nicole Kidman, ( The Hours ) based upon The Railway Man by Eric Lomax.

It has just started production so I don't expect we will see it until late next year.  On paper the war ended in 1945, for people like Trumpeter Smith and Eric Lomax it never ended.

The story of Eric Lomax is well known and will soon be world famous, if you can indulge me my Uncle Trumpeter Smith was imprisoned in Kinkaseke Copper Mine in Taiwan, where he was known as the Rabbie Burns of his camp. He spent all his time singing and reciting poetry to try and keep morale up. Here are a couple of links which acknowledge his work.

http://www.cofepow.o...sia_taiwan2.htm

http://claude.torres...ownTheMine.html

http://www.fepow-day...aughing_boy.htm

There are many more, the last link is from a site called Despair Poems. That gives us an idea of what these men endured.

Trumpeter Smith was the kind of man that self educated, after the war and once he had recovered as well as he could he became an expert on the works of the real Rabbie Burns. He was much sought after for his recitals as not only did he have the knowledge he also had the correct timber to his voice.

I was the little boy that sat engrossed as he told me all about his life and war experiences, I'll never forget the first time he told me all, I went out to the car and on the way home I said to my Mum, " That was amazing hearing all those stories ", my Mum replied, " It was amazing for you son, but what about your Aunt Nancy? she hears those stories every day".

That always stuck with me. Captain Charles Barnes never got a chance to bounce his nephew on his knee and tell him a story, this is the bare and abrupt fact of the matter. We can't spend every day grieving the dead, however we can show sufficient humility when the occasion arises to understand what these men, and I include Captain Barnes, endured was extraordinary.

It was my delight to work alongside the US military as a civilian for 5 years, their hospitality was superb, and working alongside the US military was a life enriching education for me.

So inasmuch as I love a good UK v US bun fight here on TV, I recognize in the words of Rabbie Burns, we're all men together.

That Man to Man, the world o'er,
Shall brothers be for a' that.

Robert Burns,  


#5271848 U.S. Finds Remains Of Soldier Missing From Vietnam War Plane Crash

Posted theblether on 2012-05-04 02:11:53

Back on topic.

God bless Captain Charles R. Barnes, and God rest him.

God bless the people who spend years researching and looking for the lost sons and daughters, God bless the people who tend to the graves and take the time to remember, God bless the families who live without knowing, and God bless the families that do know too.

Every country I travel too I seek out the War Memorials, I go spend time among the people that gave everything, I bow my head and I remember one thing. These men were ordinary men and women put into an extraordinary situation.

God bless my Uncle, Trumpeter Smith, who was a POW in Taiwan. He had a nervous breakdown after the war, recalling the amount of times he had to play the Last Post over the graves of his starved, beaten and tortured friends.

God bless him and the other men that formed the Burma Star organization and spent every day in life remembering those that passed and fighting for compensation for those that lived. Those men that were dropped off a ship in Southampton weighing not much more than a skeleton and told to make their own way home. Shameful.

His story was one of the untold, amongst the millions that are untold, that is the way of the world. Right now there is a movie being made about one of his compatriots Eric Lomax, telling his version of the story and aftermath.

How about we just take pride in the people that went looking for Captain Charles R. Barnes, recognize his sacrifice, and take solace in the fact that his family can now lay him to rest?

Respect for your fellow man is the foundation of civilization.


#5265639 Buddhism And Equality

Posted Jawnie on 2012-05-01 16:48:36

The concept of equality does not apply in the same sense as it does, say, with regard to US freedoms and rights.  In fact, in Buddhism, individuals are distinctly unequal due to their karma: gods, demigods, humans, animals, hungry ghosts, hell beings.  Each individual is responsible for their own circumstances.

The only equality in Buddhism is that each being, regardless of realm, has the Buddha-nature and is capable of achieving enlightenment.

Sometimes humans have managed to progress a little (or a lot) further than most on the path toward enlightenment and sometimes that progress is recognized by giving them higher seats, better food, etc.


#5260753 Ritual Ceremony For New God Statute

Posted hookedondhamma on 2012-04-29 22:35:10

For some reason I think he means becoming a PaKhao, or whatever-number-of-precepts layperson.

Whatever makes you happy, Kevin.


#5260631 Ritual Ceremony For New God Statute

Posted camerata on 2012-04-29 21:24:12

They sound like the "Brahmin" functionaries who set up spirit houses and perform other non-Buddhist rituals. You only need a 3-month training course to become one.


#5225119 Songkran Death Toll Way Over Last Year As Millions Return To Bangkok

Posted barrybankruad on 2012-04-17 09:11:41

Note that the Muslim Southern Provinces had no fatal accidents. Shows what consumption of alcohol does to the statistics.


#5218673 Focus On PISA Test To 'Repair National Image': Thailand

Posted BigJohnnyBKK on 2012-04-14 21:25:04

View Postblablablabla, on 2012-04-14 11:42:31, said:

Is it a question of budget?

Found a good article on the relationship of funding levels to test outcomes

My conclusions (not just from this):

One common factor in successful systems is that great emphasis is on recruiting, training and retaining top teachers. Shanghai seems to be very much "teach to the test", very intensive to the point of being detrimental to students' health, while Finland is the complete opposite, no standardized testing, no rating of schools, minimum time spent in school, very late starting ages, focus on learning itself for its own sake not "outcomes".

View Postblablablabla, on 2012-04-13 11:19:54, said:

BTW, UK is 21st on the 2009 Pisa test. US, 18th, to add to the aforementioned list !

Yes, educators in native-English countries are well aware that their school systems are failing to meet the needs of their societies. I am a bit more hopeful they can solve the problem if they put their minds to it though. . .


View Postsurayu, on 2012-04-09 13:53:53, said:

Chances are that is more likely for it to complitely fall as it is so bending over already, that can't be straightened up anymore....

That's what she said


#5192500 Buddhism And Equality

Posted Para on 2012-04-05 08:50:49

View Postoggie911, on 2012-04-05 06:44:43, said:

but i knew a lady who was giving money by a monk for sexual favors so how can he touch a lady and the rest of the monks cant that a load of codswobble

With Thailand having over 250,000 Monks unfortunately some do fall to temptation. Please do not let isolated incidents cloud your opinion of all of us......

Para


#5162514 Family Of Man In Skytrain Scuffle Threatened

Posted theblether on 2012-03-25 07:37:07

Once again,

Here is the danger of losing your temper in Thailand.

Now this family is being intimidated. All because this man created a confrontation. It's stupidity on his part. Who, with any knowledge of Thailand, would seriously consider causing a confrontation over a bunch of balloons?

Yes the assault was over the top, but let it be a lesson to everybody.

Don't fight in Thailand, don't be aggressive in Thailand, don't look for confrontation.

You will pay a price like you cannot believe, just as this guy has done.


#5143496 Chalerm Wants Drug Runners Executed Faster

Posted maidu on 2012-03-18 10:30:10

Was he drunk when he made that statement?  In the photo, he's bent over and supporting himself on the table edge.

If he's such a great expample of disciplinarian, why are all three of his sons such rowdy punks?

If he wants death penalties for drug dealers, then does that apply to dealers of Thailand's most harmful drug?

Will we see liquor store owners, Seagram, Chivas, and JW executives rounded up and executed?  Not likely

And while Chalerm's shenanigan hypocritical grandstanding is going on, hemp is classified as a class-5 drug in Thailand, though no one has ever been stoned on hemp (can't happen, doesn't have enough THC to stone a grasshopper).  Thai authorities need to learn the basics about drugs (opiates, pharma, alcohol, etc)  before they can realistically criminalize them.


#5138956 Speak English, For Goodnes Sake!

Posted onionluke on 2012-03-16 13:50:09

View Postoverherebc, on 2012-03-16 13:37:29, said:

View PostIanForbes, on 2012-03-16 13:34:56, said:

View Postkerryk, on 2012-03-16 13:23:46, said:

Naw, I just find another guy from Scotland and ask him what he is on about.

But how are you supposed to understand a Scott, a Welshman, or some Cockney from London?

Je Ne dinnae ken pas




#5137790 Bkk Airport Immigration Deploys 70 Female Riot Police To Help Speed Up Lines

Posted Jayman on 2012-03-16 07:25:12

View Postbobfish, on 2012-03-16 07:06:49, said:

Like many, I travel in/out of Thailand 4+ times per month. Mostly long haul, US/Europe. It's not for fun.
I spend the bucks on business class so I can still have a [jetlagged] family life. I'll have to work an extra few years just to pay for my tickets.
The extras included in paying an extreme premium include ground handling.

Example:  From the Thai Airways website:
"Royal Silk Check-in
  • Drop off at Entrance No.1, PTC 4th floor
  • Sit Down Check-in Service is provided at Row A1 - A19
  • Other premium services :
    • Fast Track Immigration
    • Royal Silk Lounges (Concourse C, D)
    • Royal Orchid Lounge (Concourse E)
    • Royal Orchid Spa (Concourse D)"
    Other airlines provide a similar service to varying degrees. Other countries as well [Yes even that last bastion of left wing egalitarianism - Australia]. Then there's APEC , Thai Elite, FastTrack etc, diplomatic, crew, local nationals. I'm sure you get the picture.

    Bottom line, you pay you money and you take your chances:
    Today I'm in the pawper's queue having paid for an economy regional ticket. I see all those fatcats "pushing in front". My gut twists. It's called JEALOUSY.


Google "fasttrack Thailand" and you will find several sites that will sell you the fast track voucher for <$50.  For those wanting to use the fast track lane and can't afford the $5k biz class ticket you can still get some of the preferential ground treatment for <$50.


Ok.. I'm gonna let the secret out of the bag.... you can get a golf cart pickup from the gate and fast track immigration and then golf cart to help with bags for 1300thb.  Without the golf cart it's 700thb.  Access to the premium lounge is 800thb.  If you just need porter service to help with bags.. 200thb.

http://www.bangkokfl...hp?our_menu=pr1


#5124859 PAD Vows To Pursue Reforms

Posted Slaps on 2012-03-11 11:23:21

View PostXangsamhua, on 2012-03-11 11:19:54, said:

View Postjayboy, on 2012-03-11 08:56:59, said:

a small band of proto fascists, thugs and Sino-Thai grannies
Posted Image Posted Image
I'm collecting "jayboyisms".  Can you provide cartoon illustrations, please.



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