Oasis

Despite the good intentioned advice I've offered the OP I think there is an element of unnecessary whining over the rules the Thai government has set, mainly relating to income.

To me, the income rules are a red herring. You are either in a job and have a salary that provides stability now and into the future, or you are not - regardless of the income threshold for a visa, or in this case, citizenship. That is our own free choice to chose the job we work in and the citizenship rules dont force you into those jobs.

Now, let me declare my bias, I am all for automatic work rights for spouses and family members and a reasonably open and transparent path to citizenship to people who show a commitment to Thailand.

But even if that was the case, it doesn't change the fact that the labour market in Thailand isn't always set up for providing high paying jobs which provide long term security, and as such, even if the visa rules were 'easy' taking certain jobs won't guarantee you and your family a stable future income.

So it is a bit rich to blame the Thai government of denying you a stable future. Our choices are own own.

Time Traveller, on 2011-11-25 02:17:55, said:

Hi Time Traveller.  No, I do not have my ID card yet.  I am awaiting His Majesty's signature then official publication in the Gazette.  Anywhere from another 6 to 12 months before I actually receive my ID card, I would say.  But the "black hole" part of the process is over and the remainder is merely formality.

@oasis

Thanks! Will go ASAP - I don't live in BKK.

You mention that you applied and it seems to be if the application is received then one is OK. Above some answers were given, would just seek a 2nd opinion esp. as you have applied yourself!

My salary is "standard" govt. foreign teacher's wages - nothing great.

I am a qualified teacher with a masters.

Bank balance - a hundred thousand tops.

I do not own (nor does the wife) any property.

My level of Thai is: I can understand what my students and friends and family say (about 60%). Could probably speak that about 25%. Can't read or write, but I am now on that issue.

Legally in the country for 5+ years (not much more though) all on non-imm and extended since arrival (with exit permits) no breaks and no tourist visas.

Have submitted tax returns within Thailand on incomes of more that 15,000 Baht a month (Samran's quoted threshold) for 5 years.

Have never been fired from a Thai job (and with good references from Thais) and do not have a police record here or in my native country.

Comments?

You only pay the money if they accept your application. They won't accept your application unless it stands a pretty good chance of success.

Go speak to them. They are friendly and helpful. They'll give you an honest assessment right off the bat.

Thank you tombkk!

Where do I file the application? Where can I get the application? I do not live in bkk and my local immigration office (nice people) looked at me like I am an alien when I mentioned this nonPR route!