ParadiseLost

WyattEarp, on 2012-03-20 17:35:04, said:

And clean up the image it has as the worlds largest brothel.  Get all the prostitutes away from public view and make it a destination that FAMILIES will want to come to and not just sex tourists.

DLock, on 2012-03-17 19:32:05, said:

As me and my friend Alfredo point out we are not defending the guy who was caught, we are merely sympathising with him. He made a stupid mistake as noted by other posters and there was no evidence of any serious drug smuggling intended, for this you guys want him hung, drawn and quartered. That is real lynch mob attitude and this is what we oppose, the sheep who follow the wolves and are frightened by independent thought. Have you ever stopped and considered who makes the rules and why? it's not all black and white.

lannarebirth, on 2012-03-17 09:34:14, said:

Jeez, isn't that phrase: 'No attachment to outcome', the most frightening, chilling idea that could ever be expressed in language?  I have no affection for any religion, buddhism included, and that phrase, in human-development terms simply describes the mental state of a very young infant prior to the inculcation into the whole wide world of consequences following all our actions, and in how in an important percentage of our actions, consequences are directly caused by those actions.  But then, i loathe every scrap of the fatalism, the illogicality, the irrationality, the casinoism, (new word) and the lack of foresight that shapes and flavours much of Thai life.  Thailand is no place for a science-minded rationalist, or for anyone who loves the rule of law&order, and a sense of 'fairplay'.  If it changes much during the lifetime of anyone posting on this site, i'd be very surprised - i certainly won't be around to see it.

Reminds me of that Danish beer commercial

Richard4849, on 2011-09-11 20:33:29, said:

I realize you're just trolling, but as none were found guilty at a trial, ALL of the people killed were innocent.

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Does not matter if it is Thailand or near any other country.
The goal of 80 % is impossible.
Her Government policy should include the means to legally process all the arrested drug dealers and drug consumers and the  means to imprison all the newly incarcerated citizens.
I am envisioning how many people in the next year will be thrown into jail and eventually imprisoned and the unbearable over crowding in the prisons that will surely occur.
Most of the drug users will be your average citizen who has broken the law. They should be prosecuted and will be prosecuted and more than likely end up in prison.
Most people would agree if you do the crime you have to do the time but the judicial system here in Thailand is somewhat of a joke, as we all know, and the prison system here in Thailand is one of the worst in the world.
If she really wants to be well loved and a really smart politician she should use the drug problems to her advantage and talk about  drug related reforms and develope reforms for the prison system and programs to wean the drug users off the drugs while dealing with the drug dealers in creative  legal ways that seriously effect their drug trade operations.
How excatly I can not suggest  but the wide spread use of police thugs and the military thugs to be used to start arresting anyone and everyone who is even suspected of drug dealing or drug consuming is going to cause near as many problems as it is trying to eliminate.
It could include foreigners suspected of some kinds of complicity and used as policy for harrasing foreigners.
It could get out of control and borderline on stupidity
Everyone witnessed the last drug crack down and how it has not done much to stop the drug dealing and or consumption.
Rather than simply arrest them all and then prosecute them all she should have a well thought out plan as to how the whole judicial system and the prison system is going to handle all the new drug related cases and all the new prison inmates.
We all know that many high ranking officials and military personal and politicians are commonly connected and or profit from the drug trade that  increases year by year here in Thailand.
Those are the untouchables.
We all know they will not be the ones suffering any penalties and or going to prison except in the cases where they are used a convenient scape goats.
She will be exposing her own political allies and police officers and military officers if she seriously goes after the major perpetrators of the drug trade here in Thailand.
She could even be the first  prime minister to be assasinated if she pursues the matter too vigorously.
We also know the police and politicians and military will use this as a means to eliminate the opposition and reposition themselves when the heat is off them, sooner or later.
There is no way she can reach the 80% goal and she should not have announced that figure and in the manner that she did.
She should have told the public: "We are going to slowly eliminated as much of the drug trade and drug consumption as humanly possible considering the enormous amount of obstacles that we have to overcome"

Actually she should not announce anything as all she has done is forewarn the drug dealers to be more clever and intelligent in the ways they go about doing their drug business and all their other sinister and nefarious activities.

If you have been thru immigration entering the US, you would see it makes a really bad first impression of the country, and tinges the rest of the experience. Ignorant, aggressive, supercilious gun-toting immigration staff sneering at the stupidity of new arrivals who dare to think they are worthy enough to visit doesn't create a positive impression, I'm afraid.

Foolish?  Yes

Menace to society?  Definitely not.   Some of you "hang 'em high brigade" need to get a life.  Far more wrongs in the world committed by alcohol abusers than by the likes of this fellow.   How many of you calling for this guy to be banged up have had a couple of beers tonight & then driven home?

Jayman, on 2012-03-13 20:03:50, said:

Whoa. Steady. You've assumed a lot of things there.

It hasn't happened to me. I've never had any sort of sexual relationship with any Thai woman and I'm not especially interested in doing so. But every time I'm in Thailand I look around me with eyes unclouded by lust and uncoloured by bitterness towards women, either Thai or Western and I see, almost without exception, men being stung. if you're one of the ones who managed to do it well and properly (and I know a few of them) and you and you aren't partly a farang ATM, then well done. But when you say:

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You are just factually wrong. She can sell it. Obviously you're very secure in your situation and this isn't a problem for you, but you need to be aware that this simply is not true.

You've clearly been in Thailand for some time and are no mug, so you know that your wife fully expects you to take financial care of her and to a certain extent, her extended family for the rest of her life. It's the biggest mistake that most expats make, the meaning of 'I love you'.

only a fool buy here,smart men like me rent and keep low profile.

all the ownerships through companies exist to f... you up at the end.married,give her all,and she will quit you,ahah....house gone,and she will deport you like a bum,ahah....

buy even condo and you will feel your pain very soon.


thailand=rent land....

I am glad the guy was caught (of course assuming he is guilty) for the simple reason that the rule of law prevails. However I also think the drug laws are counter effective and simply criminalist the whole thing.

Corruption is far more pervasive and damaging to the economy than ate drugs and it affects everyone. Some families lives are ruined by it and everyone is the poorer for it except the criminals. And what's more the people have to take the effects of it, which are far more extensive thanost people even begin to understand, yet few people stand up and say 'good hope he rots in the Bangkok Hilton and enjoys his husband' to the few people who ate even brought to task for that crime.

The whole drug issue is out of kilter with reality as are the punishments relative to other crimes like rape, fraud, and corruption which to my mind are far more damaging and come without the person wanting it in the first place. It's a mad world devoid of sufficient critical thinking especially but non-exclusively in Thailand

There is no political will in this country for any real change.  Elites in Thailand constantly feed the public perception that Thailand is only for Thais, that Thais are more morally pure than other peoples, and that Thais are ingenious, in-demand people.  This campaign of ignorance and complacency has worked spectacularly.  The majority is concerned more with the (immediate) accumulation of material possessions than any real improvement in living conditions through a vibrant economy and political reform.  This plays well into the hands of the wealthy and powerful, who continue to raise prices even as wages stagnate and people lose their jobs (in the aftermath of the floods and recent political strife).  The problem is that this dynamic strips the society of its veil of superficial progress and reveals the parasitic core in all its glory.  As those who previously were ignorant of their relative social status are suddenly enlightened, they will become incensed.  Political instability is nearly guaranteed for at least a couple of generations in Thailand.  In addition, the Kingdom's outmoded system of education is only beginning to bear the dark fruits we know are inevitable for Thailand's future generations.  This all as the world only becomes more competitive and integrated.  

"Thai society has deep political disparity..."

  
There needs to be a real, long-term effort to solve this before any of the symptoms of the deeper class divisions can be addressed, in my humble opinion.

Om85, on 2012-03-13 08:34:08, said:

I agree particularly in the area concerning rights of people with Thai relatives. This country condones child abduction and parental alienation.  The labor laws castrate the foreign fathers ability to care and support his family unless he is willing to engage in illicit activities.  I am fighting all my urges to become a hardened cynic because I know many lovely wonderful generous and helpful Thais.  However when I can't earn enough in a country to fight for my legal rights there is a huge disparity.  I am not asking for handouts from the Thai government (something my own government would extend to foreigners) just simply the right to work and support my family in a manner that they are accustomed to.  For foreign fathers you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

laurentbkk, on 2012-03-13 11:01:10, said:

You paid for a nicer seat on the plane and better food.  No reason you should get preferential treatment from immigration at the airport.

Does anyone still question the stupidity, short-sightedness and greed of the little filths in charge of this country? If a Thai spouse owns the land then she owns the land and there cannot possibly be a law violation. As far as Thai corporations using nominees, the Thai law allows it so where's the problem? These people talk out their own asses and don't even understand their own system, which doesn't suprise me as they are all idiots! They don't care about their own people, they only care about pretending to have wealth and looking the part. They don't work for it or earn it, they steal it and are simply common theives. A message to all these greedy little Thai beurocrats who actually think they are something - we in the west who actually do have real wealth see you all as a bunch of corrupt, second-class world citizens who simply steal from your own people. You have nothing that impresses us and never will. Give me an Isaan farmer that works hard every day to put food on his family's table and a decent roof over their heads any day over any phony Thai politician/thief trying too hard to impress us that he or she is worth anything.