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OzMick, on Today, 08:00 , said:

Pleease explain why  Khun Prompam was  subject to a court ruling on May 18, if your statement about the government not allowing "red leaders get anywhere near a court".

Daily Mail had  an interesting set of photos from the event,
What guy would want to admit he was slapped while harasssing a kid wearing this outfit?

ttelise, on Yesterday, 20:44 , said:

Again I ask, how do you know the steroids provided off script meet basic quality requirements? You state that they can be tested. Yes, that is possible. However, do you think any of these people on steroid junkets test the products? Get real. None of these people buying these drugs  in the black market have the slightest clue as to the quality of the products and they most certainly do not know what they are buying because they haven't the slightest clue as to where the drugs came from or who manufactured them.

If it is a normal occurrence for there to be contaminants in legitimately produced drugs, what do you think the likelihood will be for illegally distributed products? In bonafide drugs, there are  batch runs that become contaminated when filters disintegrate or ATIs are defective or the wrong dose is created. Legitimate manufacturers will typically pick this up at the production source or shortly after the product is distributed. Products will be immediately recalled and removed so that the  negative implications are contained.  Do you think any of these black marketers  give a f**k if there is a recall? Do you think they are even monitoring the products, or have quality assurance mechanisms in place?

This entire thread is a tangent focusing on legitimacy of the use of the drugs, when the core issue is that the products are unverified, manufactured under unverified conditions and more often than not are impure. Any idiot that purchases these drugs from some black marketeer  is bereft of common sense. TVF is filled with people complaining about the quality of products in Thailand and yet these same people will purchase drugs from some scuzzball. Brilliant.

taff33, on Today, 07:05 , said:

Insurance doesn't matter in respect to responsibility. Granny is the owne rand is ultimately liable for the damage caused by the vehicle if  the grandchild had possession. The only way she might be able to reduce liability  is if she said  her grandchild had stolen the vehicle. Considering the fact that granny says she will take responsibility, again insurance is not an issue. Granny will pay a considerable sum now. If the grandchild is a student at Assumption and granny was able to provide an expensive vehicle, I don't think it is unreasonable to believe that granny will have a big purse. Money won't be an issue.  In respect to the driver, it is highly unlikely there would be a prison sentence. 1st time offenders (if this is the case), that are in university, that are minors and that are capable of compensating  victims do not go to jail.

Shurup, on Yesterday, 17:23 , said:

You  have   made a statement that is not factually supported. Can you cite the specific clinical studies and  research that supports your statement? No, you cannot. Birth control is safe when  the dosing guidelines are followed. Yes there are some issues that have arisen,but they relate to the use of the products off script or in situations contrary to the  dosing guidelines, i.e. improper screening.    Birth control "pill" use has been widespread since the 1960's. Hundreds of millions of women have used the formulations to the point where the risks and contradictions are known. These pills have saved lives, and provided a better quality of life for their users since their introduction. One cannot say the same thing about off prescription testosterone use.

The  subject here is the  use and availability of steroids in Thailand. It is not their legitimacy. The fact of the matter is that the steroids obtained at the street level are often counterfeit or are of undetermined origin. FULL STOP.  Can you proviode one reference where the recreational steroids obtained on the Thai black market were quality assured? You cannot, because the reality is that the drugs available outside legal distribution channels are likely to be  conterfeit. The likelihood is even greater the more "valuable" the drug is. It is not worth a counterfeiters time to make bogus birth control pills since the  generic versions are often handed out for free by NGOs or made available at a negligible cost. Injectable testosterone, the kind favoured by self appointed endocrinologists that spend their time in a gym, is expensive and a lucrative  item to be counterfeited.

I offer this challenge. Take 10 vials of injectable testosterone you purchase in the  black market and have them tested. I guarantee that the quality will be questionable in all vials. There will either be contaminants, or the drug will be from a lot that was supposed to have been destroyed due to age or defect, or there will be an inadequacy of the ATI.  In Thailand, drugs that ould have been destroyed elsewhere, often end up for resale on the black market.  

I challenge anyone to show that the off script steroids they purchase and use in Thailand would meet the legal quality requirements.