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I did some research on this a few weeks ago.  Seems it is made in India and is not an actual prescription drug.  It is banned in the US and is on it's drug watch for being imported.  Problem is, you never know exactly what dose is in each pill.  As opposed to REAL viagra, which is properly manufactured...and as opposed to FAKE viagra, which is also manufactured in India...and looks exactly like the real thing.  I know as I bought some in India years ago as a joke.  Like $3 for 20 pills.

Do some searches on the internet to verify this...

craigt3365, on 2010-09-27 07:35:26, said:

hmmm... you head the quality control department of Pfizer?  

by the way, indian manufacturers (there are several) do not produce "fake" Viagra. they produce under various names some "medication" which contains the same ingredient like Pfizer's Viagra, namely sildenafil citrate. that ingredient is so cheap to produce that the "illegal" manufacturers can beat Pfizer's price multiple times and still generate very high profits. fact is that the profit margin of Viagra et al is higher than producer/street price of cocaine and heroin.

Pfizer admitted some time ago publicly that the packing of its Viagra is several the cost of its content. anything like "not manufactured properly" and "you don't know what the dose..." is nothing but baseless speculation.

For sure not in QC at Pfizer.  But they were my customer and I spent many days with them on a variety of projects.  I lived in NYC was the global contact for them for many years.  I was also the global rep for J&J.  I was the local rep for Sanofi as well as Novartis.  So...I know a bit about these companies.  But for sure, was never part of their R&D team.

I personally bought tablets labeled "Viagra" and looking exactly like the real ones in India.  I would call these fake as the real Viagra is from Pfizer, and if I am not mistaken, the patent is still in effect...expiring at different dates in various places around the world.  But for sure when I was in India in 2003, the patent was still in effect.

We could get into a discussion of patents, R&D costs, etc.  But that is off topic.  These companies spend HUGE amounts of money on R&D...not all of it pays off...big money is lost on medicines that never make the grade.  Viagra was a gold mine for sure.  And the profits are being used to research more drugs....as well as pay for the costs of failed meds.

Do some research on black market drugs.  You will find out the manufacturing processes do not guarantee exact dosages in each pill.  And with this type of med, as it is already somewhat dangerous for some people, it could be a real problem.  These facts are widely known...and for sure not speculation.

there is speculation and there is assumption. "widely known" and transferred to (in this case) specific prescription drug is an assumption without evidence. it is correct that Pfizer's rights are violated by the manufacturers of the generic drug as Pfizer was clever enough to protect its rights. wrong is to speak of R&D because sildenafil citrate was neither invented nor developed by Pfizer. no matter what the claims are, the drug "existed" and was initially marketed for a different medical purpose. "the other" effect    was discovered by patients and their medics who informed Pfizer.

a few years ago one of the indian producers admitted that they were cost cutting by manufacturing the "100mg" tablet with a varying dose of minimum 100 and maximum 108mg, a variance which is neither dangerous nor unacceptable but reduces manufacturing cost considerably.

worthwhile to add is that all multinational corporations manufacture themselves and have drugs manufactured since decades by subcontractor indian companies who know how to manufacture "properly".

WarpSpeed, on 2010-09-15 17:30:11, said:

Warp you misunderstood me.. it was a full out compliment. I really dont know much about cars and you seem to know a lot about it. I just said your a smart guy. That still stands.

robblok, on 2010-09-15 18:27:49, said:

I guess so, my apologies then if that's the case and as usual others seize on the misinterpreted meaning as well..  
No need to bleat on but the way your post started out I hope you can see how it could have been misconstrued..

Just so you know? Saying that is probably going to get you a few reds from the dog pack...    

Too simple to answer here huh

Why not just answer instead of deleting it....again ?

Simple question really.

Why was this thread trashed ?

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