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OK Previous posting was removed due to me not being fully aware of the FORUM RULES  - specifically RULE 21 ... apologies moderators this was not aimed at you personally or at the forum rules.


Anyway I am going to re-post it as the point I am trying to make and I will reiterate it in this post and modify it so hopefully it does not go against the forum rule and be allowed to stay posted.... and hopefully to allow conversation and constructive arguments for each side as I believe it to be a valid discussion point.


FREEDOM OF SPEECH vs POLITICAL CORRECTNESS:


People are allowed to have different opinions and beliefs, that is what being human is all about. Half the time I am on this forum and I read people comments, I think "Well that's a little bit biased" or "I completely disagree/ agree" and if I feel strongly enough about it I will write a post, if it offends me I just go to another posting.

There was a time when people had the right to say what they wanted and believed in - OK sometimes it was offensive, sometimes even downright crazy BUT and this is the point of this thread.... IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT IS BEING SAID (or shown on TV/ broadcast on Radio) DONT LISTEN - Turn off the sound or walk away/ DONT WATCH IT - turn over the channel/ DONT READ IT - put down the article or turn the page OR provide a rational counter argument against the stated points.

IMHO I seriously believe that today everyone is so worried about POLITICAL CORRECTNESS that they have forgotten our basic rights to agree or disagree - remember the old saying "Sticks and Stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me"? A kids saying when I was younger but it still holds true.

Surely we have the choice to make our own decision on either be offended/ angered by statements/comments or beliefs we disagree with or to counter them with our own ideas and thoughts or to ignore them if we consider them offensive?

Why do we need to have someone telling what is right or what is wrong... I have a brain and a small amount of education - SURELY ITS MY CHOICE as to be offended or insulted by something!

Please can someone (original content removed to meet forum rules) tell me who decides what is acceptable on our behalf? Who monitors these "defenders of the public" - who is to say that what they believe is offensive IS ACTUALLY OFFENSIVE or do they have their own agenda?


A prime case of this was shown on the Thai News a few months back with an exam being set for all 16 year olds and the questions were so generic that any of the answers given would be correct - the invigilators decided on their own PERSONAL view point being the correct answer which was slanted by her own personal beliefs (a strong Christian - not to say this is right or wrong!) causing an outcry by the students and parents as it affected their chances to get in to the Universities based on the low scores achieved. Thus potentially affecting their careers and life choices.


We all have the right to make clear our beliefs and also our rights to stand up for them.... but do we have the right to force them on other people??? Hitler/ Stalin all had their own believes and a right to them but it was decided by the people that they were not representative of the general populations beliefs and we know the rest. Positive examples would be Mahatma Ghandi, Martin Luther King - insert you own heroes/ villains here.

For all the people out there that are so worried about being Politically Correct or being sued for expressing a valid opinion (whether someone else agrees or not) - are you taking these rights from us?

THOUGHTS PEOPLE??

After seeing several posts that have been 'removed/ moderated' for various reason known only to the moderators - I just wanted to know who moderates them - who decides what is allowed and disallowed?

I understand that there are laws against slander/ Lese Majeste (apologies if the spelling is wrong) but surely expressing a valid opinion is what a forum is all about.

People are allowed to have different opinions and beliefs, that is what being human is all about. Half the time I am on this forum and I read people comments, I think "Well that's a little bit biased" or "I completely disagree/ agree" and if I feel strongly enough about it I will write a post, if it offends me I just go to another posting.

There was a time when people had the right to say what they wanted and believed in - OK sometimes it was offensive, sometimes even downright crazy BUT and this is the point of this thread.... IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT IS BEING SAID (or shown on TV) DONT LISTEN - Turn off the sound or walk away/ DONT WATCH IT - turn over the channel/ DONT READ IT - put down the article or turn the page OR provide a rational counter argument against the stated points.

IMHO I seriously believe that today everyone is so worried about POLITICAL CORRECTNESS that they have forgotten our basic rights to agree or disagree - remember the old saying "Sticks and Stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me"? A kids saying when I was younger but it still holds true.

Surely we have the choice to make our own decision on either be offended/ angered by statements/comments or beliefs we disagree with or to counter them with our own ideas and thoughts or to ignore them if we consider them offensive?

Why do we need to have someone telling me that I cant read a comment / thread because it might cause offence - SURELY ITS MY CHOICE TO READ THE COMMENTS OR NOT!

Please can someone - maybe even the moderators tell me who decides among them on what posts to remove and display, who monitors them - who is to say that what they believe is offensive IS ACTUALLY OFFENSIVE or do they have their own agenda? We all have the right to make clear our beliefs and also our rights to stand up for them....

For all the people out there that are so worried about being Politically Correct or being sued for expressing a valid opinion (whether someone else agrees or not)  - are you taking these rights from us?

THOUGHTS PEOPLE??

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