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#3917601 Same Sex Marriage

Posted mojo80 on 2010-09-30 01:17:14

View Posttombkk, on 2010-09-26 22:42:49, said:

View Postmojo80, on 2010-09-26 22:15:21, said:

God i hope not, its for unity between man and women, anything else is wrong

Everybody: Please don't feed the troll.

Awesome reply, dont like someones opinion scream troll like a little girl! Yawn.

Marriage should be for man and women only, now im not saying if to people of the same sex want to commit to each other for love, benefits thats fine, it just shouldnt be called marriage....i think the term civil union or something along those lines, in fact call it what the hel_l you want but NOT MARRIAGE.

Nuff Said.!





#3911296 Same Sex Marriage

Posted South on 2010-09-27 13:22:56

View Postmojo80, on 2010-09-26 22:15:21, said:

God i hope not, its for unity between man and women, anything else is wrong

Exactly!  :jap:


#3908779 Same Sex Marriage

Posted South on 2010-09-26 11:12:31

View PostJohnLeech, on 2010-09-26 02:28:25, said:

View PostSouth, on 2010-09-26 00:09:04, said:

Hehe, I'm starting to enjoy this. Now, if you care to take time and read this thread, you will notice the OP stated 'MARRIAGES', not civil partnerships which you have slyly introduced - a totally different thing altogether. Now go and have your eggnog before it gets cold.  ;)

"a totally different thing"?

Hardly. The only difference I can see is that the former is generally between two people of the opposite sex while the latter is generally between two people of the same sex. Apart from that they seem to confer similar rights and responsibilities and to be pretty similar overall to me.

Maybe you know something I don't ...........??

BoldExactly what I have been saying! The OP asked about 'marriages', nothing else, no mention at all of civil partenerships/unions or whatever.

Had he posed the question,"I am just curious do you guys think that same sex civil partnerships will ever be legal in Thailand?" I wouldn't even have replied. As I've said before, a marriage to me is the bonding of a male and a female and in my humble opinion always will be.

Have a nice day.


#3905746 Same Sex Marriage

Posted South on 2010-09-24 23:23:32

Bigoted and not progressive??  :D :D

We are all bigoted in some respect for various reasons and on various subjects, are we not? Non progressive? maybe.

To elaborate, what people do with their own lives is totally up to them and with that I have no qualms whatsoever. It is just that to me, the 'institution of marriage' is a bonding of people from opposite sexes, nothing more, nothing less. Husband/wife - Father/mother etc.

Yes, things change but as same sex marriage is a subject I know pretty much nothing about, I'll just remain old fashioned and say no more. I think I've made my point.

Have a nice day.


#3909033 Same Sex Marriage

Posted rodentwarrior on 2010-09-26 13:00:28


John,


'South' has already claimed his total ignorance of the subject matter thus:

"Yes, things change but as same sex marriage is a subject I know pretty much nothing about, I'll just remain old fashioned and say no more."



However, unlike his statement that he will "say no more." he carries on like a typical bar-room barrister,  who has little or (in this case) no knowledge of the subject matter, but insists on making uninformed statements thereby proving to all concerned of his total ignorance, and biased view against equality for gay people.






#3915232 Happy Hour Bars

Posted WinnieTheKhwai on 2010-09-28 22:42:42

View PostMestizo, on 2010-09-28 21:45:03, said:

View PostWinnieTheKhwai, on 2010-09-28 21:26:37, said:

How about the 88 baht Beer Buffet between 5:30pm and 8:30pm..  That'll fit the bill in terms of cheapyness.

Ack!  Please don't disclose this one!   Would hate for the TV crowd to start swarming there :(

-Mestizo

LOL..  Yes, I intentionally did not put the location in there.. but did want to see if you'd respond. :D  

To be honest though, if it becomes more successful then other places will copy, which would be a good thing.  And they'd need even more curvy beer chicks to handle the increased demand..   But my lips remain sealed for now.

Please mod me back up +1  !  My reputation is hurting. ;)


#3907785 Local Supermarket - Cockroach In Sealed Bakery.

Posted harrry on 2010-09-25 22:02:39

View PostFarangCravings, on 2010-09-25 21:54:05, said:

I understand its a tricky issue for TV but there has to be a way around it to stay away form libel while still allowing the community to warn other against a certain business

How about something like the reputation buttons you got going that way nothing is said but the reputation will say it all and will at least give someone a heads up to avoid a business that consistently treats it customers like shit

Could be something like

Hi guys what do you think about this business

_  +

Its would say it all without saying nothing at all.
Maybe I can sue the people who give me red -s


#3907240 Advanced Training Techniques By The Thai Army

Posted Tonto21 on 2010-09-25 17:03:32

View Postwintermute, on 2010-09-24 21:09:39, said:

View PostJohnLeech, on 2010-09-23 18:31:00, said:

View Postwintermute, on 2010-09-22 15:58:52, said:

View PostFarangCravings, on 2010-09-22 15:51:47, said:

Are you saying now that the US, British Military are less of a soldgiers now they DONT have to suffer abuse like that

I dont think so
The elite military units still haze their recruits. Maybe not a boot to the face sort of physical punishment/training but it's along the same lines ie..hours of forced Physical "training" sessions in scorching or cold temps.

Wrong, as has already been explained.

There is a world of difference between training in extremes of temperature, etc, and "hazing".

The problem with physical abuse being used as a training method to "harden" troops is that it only hardens them to that sort of abuse; it does nothing  to harden them to combat conditions or to make them physically or mentally stronger or self-reliant.

Well you tell that to the old school marine corps, the IJA forces, and the SS which were all schooled with corporal punishment. They were extremely tough and mean SOBs. History shows such conditioning _does_ work especially if you want men who aren't afraid to do certain things that would be frowned upon in today's political climate.

The modern military doesn't need this because when was the last time there was any war that was the size or scale of WW2? No developed country has had to face an existential struggle for survival in the past 50 years.

Like I said pushing around destitute brown people in the desert is nothing ..absolutely nothing compared to the wars of old.

Hi wintermute. I have been reading your posts, I think I understand where you’re coming from; you don’t advocate bullying as part of soldiers training, you’re simply highlighting history, and pointing out the use of bullying as an effective training method. Well, you’re right about one thing the old school armed forces around the world that used, and still use bullying as way to gain, blind abidance and in essence make their troops more afraid of disobey an order than carry it out.  Both the SS and 2nd Rep (French Foreign Legion) to name two from the old day carried this stigma. Back in the day this was seen as a good way make your soldiers tough and compliant. Things change, I know for a fact, 20 years ago 2nd Rep were just as tough as their reputation of old….But with no outward signs of system bulling, they were bright intelligent guys with a strong “espree de corp” you don’t get that feeling by being bullied! The SS…….. Whatever happened to them boys? Fact! The SS were very good soldiers, because of training…..Not bullying, the bullying just made them bigger Assholes than they were when they joined.

Bullying is out dated in the modern armies of the world, the days of sending thousands of men “over the top” is over, (unless your Chinese of North Korean, “Unlucky boy”) a small fact; The British army tried to eradicate system bullying in the armed forces in 1914 because so many army recruits were dying from over enthusiastic instruction! It would seem British Generals, at the time thought it was far more sporting to let the enemy kill all our young men!  So a way was needed to find a method to instill non questioning obedience under fire, they did this by Foot Drill, Squire bashing……..Synchronized walking, for hours and hours, a precise action for a precise order, and he was shown how to make a good “bed block” (anyone old  Brit squaddies remember them?) and fire a couple of rounds. Bullying too Brainwashing in one go, worked a treat but not in a good way!

I do take umbrage at some of your comments! Allow me to tell you why. Reading your posts I have the feeling you have very little respect for armed service personal, OK, It’s a free world, of sorts! Your basically inferring that the wests ground forces are only good at playing at war and doesn’t really know what a war is as it’s soldiers only get to push poor ill-equipped flip flop wearing natives about…..Big men a! How hard can that be? Well having been attacked by “flip flop” dirt poor kids high on “brow brown” (cocaine and cordite) sporting AK47’s and RPG’s laughing their heads off! Soldiers today don’t know what war is? Please go and tell that to the Grunt, or Grav with his face pressed in the dirt with rounds cracking just over his head, shot at by some 10 year old boy in some shitty little insignificant “peace keeping” mission. I’m sure he’ll feel very lucky and take some comfort he’s not fighting in a major conflict of old!






#3905772 Advanced Training Techniques By The Thai Army

Posted JohnLeech on 2010-09-24 23:58:03

View Postwintermute, on 2010-09-24 21:09:39, said:

View PostJohnLeech, on 2010-09-23 18:31:00, said:

View Postwintermute, on 2010-09-22 15:58:52, said:

View PostFarangCravings, on 2010-09-22 15:51:47, said:

Are you saying now that the US, British Military are less of a soldgiers now they DONT have to suffer abuse like that

I dont think so
The elite military units still haze their recruits. Maybe not a boot to the face sort of physical punishment/training but it's along the same lines ie..hours of forced Physical "training" sessions in scorching or cold temps.

Wrong, as has already been explained.

There is a world of difference between training in extremes of temperature, etc, and "hazing".

The problem with physical abuse being used as a training method to "harden" troops is that it only hardens them to that sort of abuse; it does nothing  to harden them to combat conditions or to make them physically or mentally stronger or self-reliant.

Well you tell that to the old school marine corps, the IJA forces, and the SS which were all schooled with corporal punishment. They were extremely tough and mean SOBs. History shows such conditioning _does_ work especially if you want men who aren't afraid to do certain things that would be frowned upon in today's political climate.

The modern military doesn't need this because when was the last time there was any war that was the size or scale of WW2? No developed country has had to face an existential struggle for survival in the past 50 years.

Like I said pushing around destitute brown people in the desert is nothing ..absolutely nothing compared to the wars of old.

The "last time there was any war that was the size or scale of WW2" was 65 years ago, so rather before my time.

What exactly are you comparing when comparing modern warfare to "the wars of old", and to what end? How does WWII compare to WWI in your book? Or WWI to the Crimea? Or the Crimea to the Hundred Years War?

Your grasp of what "history shows" is evidently as limited as your grasp of actual history. Between 35 and 50 million people have died in wars in the last fifty years, but leaving out counter-insurgency operations and conflicts in what you would probably call "undeveloped" countries, a number of developed countries with developed military forces have fought wars for their "survival" in the last 50 years, from the Lebanon to the Iran-Iraq war, the first Gulf  War (Kuwait), Chechnya, Kosovo, Serbia, and various Arab-Israeli wars.

The idea that a JNCO abusing a recruit (as appears to be the case here, but it could quite easily be something different) "does work" and turns them into "men who aren't afraid to do certain things" is not only wrong, but if it were true it would be even more reason to make it unacceptable. The military today has to observe the "niceties" because if it doesn't then it has no chance of winning the hearts and minds of those "destitute brown people" you believe it is "pushing around" - it would be far easier for the military to simply "bomb them back to the stone age", but that is not their job.

Somehow I doubt if you have ever seen any sort  of warfare at first hand, or you would not post such uninformed rubbish  about the military or about warfare over the past 50 years.


#3904428 Would You Like The Option To Turn Off The Reputation Feature For You?

Posted Jingthing on 2010-09-24 13:31:01

View PostGuestHouse, on 2010-09-24 08:11:41, said:

There are a number of issues discussed on TV over which the views or many members are polorized - What should and should not be said about life in Thailand being the classic.

Expressing a view on such a topic almost certainly will fall into one camp of the other - Doing so will then give rise to 'Repuation Votes'



The danger is clear - people posting to manage their reputation rather than expressing opinions they truly hold - or wosre still giving honest advice to someone who's asked for advice.

Popularism - I know of no examples were its been a good thing.
Yes! You got it.

OK, admins/mods so right now 32 percent say they WANT to turn off the feature for themselves. Would 1/3 of us opting out hurt the board very much? How about it? Can we PLEASE have the enhancement that we can TURN OFF the reputation feature PERMANENTLY for ourselves? In other words, reset to ZERO for good and no power to give or get greens or reds? How about it?


#3902573 Advanced Training Techniques By The Thai Army

Posted Tonto21 on 2010-09-23 19:25:01

View Postmidasthailand, on 2010-09-23 17:34:48, said:

View PostTonto21, on 2010-09-23 15:36:36, said:

I served with a SF unit, I left in 1991 and let's get this right, I was NEVER punched, kicked, even slapped about, nor did I witness it…. Not in the way it's being implied, yes I got knocked about, but no more than a footballer may get kicked in a football match……Shit happens. I'm not saying bullying never happens it will be different from Army to Army, unit to unit, prevalent mainly in conscript armies.

Hazing or as we Brits call it initiating…… Well I don't know about Hazing but we don't tend to beat the crap out of friends and comrades! It's backwood redneck bullshit!  My initiation; I had to (along with 2 other new guys to the unit) do a treasure hunt, (for my own cloths, in the arctic, -10 at the time) I was given my boots, snow shoes, a map and compass and my cold weather hat, did I mention I was naked! We all had a laugh…..when I got some feeling and my cloths back.

I don't mean to sound rude, but civvies; you watch way too many Hollywood and old black and white war films, for people who have not served in the Armed Forces you will never, ever get it! I say this not meaning to put anyone down, but civvies draw "facts" and conclusion from watching films like Rambo, and hearing bullshit stories from a SAS or Black Opp's bar fly's, I never once saw any bullying the entire time I served, save basic training and that was one recruit on another. Most modern thinking Armed forces discharge Bullies from their ranks.  From my experience people who display bullying type qualities don't tend to be very good soldiers, IMO they tend to be egotistical, (they don't bond well) basically not willing to step-up when things go pear shaped!

Think how much more effective troops are if they get taught SELF discipline, and free thinking along with a feeling of "espree de corp." instead of humiliation…………Ask anyone who has served, let alone in a, let say; tip of the spear type unit, regardless of nationality.

Bullying in forward thinking Armed Forces around the world is very much disapproved of for many reasons, Two the main reasons; it destroys unit cohesion, a soldiers self confidence, and not least it's very very expensive to train a SF soldier, to put a man though a basic military parachute course (average two weeks long) back in 1980 was over 50,000 pounds! I've read some comments about SNCO and NCO using bulling as part of training, I think there is a fair amount of misunderstanding in what is verbal encouragement and bullying…….Yes, it's a fine line, I finally left, PVR'd (Premature Voluntary Release) at my 16 year point, my last job before my discharge was the troop Sgt on the all Arms Commando Training. Team………….Bullying? Physical abuse, no, never! Verbal encouragement Oh yes, lots of it and a good "beasting" for the entire troop when an individual got out of line.  

One fact that seems to be overlooked, SF solders are volunteers……They can quit anytime and RTU!

I've no doubt I'm going to get some cheap shots taken for writing this, so in for a penny….. One other massive misconception regarding SF solders, it's called the Hollywood syndrome! Why do people think the more clandestine the unit, the more moody and bad tempered the Troopers are? Did you know a major phase in UK SF selection is a long jungle phase in which all candidates are under review over the whole period for compatibility when working in a small team, isolated for long period of time. So the mean and moody "Predator" (the movie) types SF troopers need not apply. A SF solders best asset………Apart from being a good solder, is knowing his mates have his back when it gets a bit thick, (NOT some dickhead self serving bully) and a sense of humor, a good sarcastic, "I bet that hurts" type of humor.

Bullies!  I have no respect for these gutless nobbers and any establishments who allow bulling to happen.



I agree with all that you have said with some minor caveats; I served 36 years and one of my closest friends was an army intelligence captain, in my previous post I alluded to the sort of training that he endured during his corps training for IO. What was done to him and his cohorts during that phase of the training was significantly worse than what was seen in the OP's video. In no way was what they went through considered bullying and we do not know the context in which the video was taken.

One thing a trainee knows during training is that the overriding consideration of the training staff is trainee safety and if things get over the top there is always "safeguard". My mate tells me that after the 48 hours of interrogation he and his cohorts that passed the training were taken out for the evening by the trainers and officially welcomed to the Int corps.

I have also attended the hazing ceremonies of several E7's on promotion to E8  (US Navy 1989) and their treatment was also worse than seen on the OP's video.


Hi midasthailand, I can’t really comment on Armed services other than British, and then really only in my line of sight, I’ve just spoke as I saw it.

Your 2nd paragraph, for me sums it up very well, as part of SF selection involves an “Escape and Evasion” phase, this inevitable ends up as an integration….No one ever escapes, or evades, (they set the RV points) and it’s rigged to get you on or around the day 4 of being on the run.  No violence or threats of violence was used, but being cold, wet, nack’d and hungry the psychological effect of two day with your head in a sand bag hearing the blood curdling screams of other prisoners being beaten up and electrocuted…………(not really, But sounds like it,) It's strange the worst thing I remember about it all was, the barstewards played “Brown girl in the ring” really loud over and over again for had to be 48 hours, Funny thing, if I ever hear it playing now, I get cold sweats and dread the song coming to an end as I might hear screaming again! Don’t know about 5 minutes alone with the alleged bully (OP’s Topic)It’s been 30 years but, I would still give my right nut for 2 minutes alone in a room with “Bonnie M” and a  1ft rubber hose pipe. Did I ever feel bullied in the E&E phase, No.

    





#3903024 Would You Like The Option To Turn Off The Reputation Feature For You?

Posted Jingthing on 2010-09-23 23:42:55

Personally, the reputation thing is a nasty distraction for me. Yes, I do use it, but I would much prefer the OPTION to be able to TURN IT OFF so that I couldn't give or get reds or greens, and my reputation would be stuck eternally at ZERO.

Now we know the management here likes the feature for financial reasons, so our desires are not the highest priority here. So we know the feature isn't going away.

But what about the OPTION of turning it off for OURSELVES, user by user? Wouldn't it nice to have the CHOICE to participate in this game, or not? Would you USE that option to turn off the feature for YOU?


#3901902 Scandalous Royal Thai Police Sexual Harassment Case

Posted SamritT on 2010-09-23 14:55:32

Anyone have a link to the video clip? The moving one, not just still photos.


#3901859 Thai Police & Us Dea Announce Operation “Hot Spot” In Pattaya

Posted gemini81 on 2010-09-23 14:31:55

View PostFarangCravings, on 2010-09-23 13:23:47, said:

Another case of the USA sticking there nose in where it don't belong

Another case of Farang Craving b*tching, which is all I ever see you do on here.


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