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In Topic: Blockades Of Parliament Not Permitted In New Round Of Street Rallies: Yuthasak

Today, 14:06

They can all go sit in Lumpini, reds and yellows.

Sitting in and blockading roads is not a democratic right

In Topic: Australian Businesswoman Arrested In Thailand For Criminal Defamation

Today, 13:58

View Postspr&q, on Today, 13:40 , said:

View PostThai at Heart, on Today, 08:58 , said:

View Postchooka, on Today, 08:44 , said:

View PostIMA_FARANG, on Today, 08:32 , said:

Posted Image  A good reminder to all that the laws on defamation of character and slander in Thailand are NOT the same as in Austrailia.
This is Thailand and you can not pubicaly say certain things as perhaps you could in Austrailia.
I don't know the details of this particular case....but just remember....the laws in Thailand are different.
So don't open your month and stick you're foot in it.
Posted Image

It was apparently said in private and not publically.
Doesn't really matter, if it can be proven that it causes damage to someone reputation.  If I tell you that you are fat, and it offends you, technically I have caused hurt and damage to you under the Thai way of looking at defamation.  Of course, that then comes down to a he said, she said situation, but since when did anyone with enough money worry about that in Thailand.   They aren't the ones being inconvenienced and arrested.   By the way I think you are thin.

The funny thing, is that this law could be used and abused by millions of people every day here in Thailand, but it isn't because most people don't even know it exists.  All they know is don't criticise the pooyai or you'll be in for it.   A restaurant reviewer is dicing with his freedom every time he writes one word, fortunately they are always very complementary in Thailand for precisely this reason.  To write anything negative would be so easy to prosecute under the defamation law in Thailand, never take and review written in Thailand's word for it.

If I privately express an opinion about someone's financial position to another person, and that opinion causes for example someone to pull out of an investment, that causes damage.  Now it is down to he said she said.  If the woman has any sense, her lawyers will be telling her to say absolutely nothing, the obligation is on the accuser to prove everything.  

Hardly conducive for free speech and actually performing things like due diligence,

Whilst what you say is generally true, in the case of restaurant reviews things changed here in the last decade. Just look at BK magazine (a widely distributed and well-written free magazine in English) any week and you will see two restaurant reviews. Quite often they are very critical. Things are not as bad as you make out.
Depends if the owners of the restaurants want to get antsy or not.

In Topic: Australian Businesswoman Arrested In Thailand For Criminal Defamation

Today, 11:12

View PostBuchholz, on Today, 11:07 , said:

View PostThai at Heart, on Today, 10:39 , said:

View Postphiphidon, on Today, 10:30 , said:

View PostThai at Heart, on Today, 09:00 , said:

I hope the reporters give her a grilling trying to explain away this ridiculous law.

So you take Yingluck to task to explain this, to you, "ridiculous" law to the Australians when it has been on the law books since 1957? Any other old laws you'd like her to take responsibility for?

As the current PM of the country, with a majority, her government is largely free to write any law it likes.

It would be interesting if she even dares to mention whether she agrees with the law or not.  Criminal defamation in Thailand has been held up to international scrutiny for many years.  I wonder what her views of it are.  After all, she is only the PM.  The law has far more far reaching implications that business discussions.


it certainly does,

JUST before this arrest news broke,

Australian business told to look to Asia

May 27, 2012

The Australian-Thai Chamber of Commerce has called on Australian business to better prepare for economic integration in Asia. The call from its spokesman Mark Carroll comes as Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra arrives for a three-day official visit to boost bilateral trade and investment.

Mr Carroll says if Australian business wants to grow, or even just survive, it needs to look offshore.

He says Thailand offers Australian businesses some incredible advantages.

http://wap.news.bigp...sia_754406.html


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.... and a pallet-load of some incredible disadvantages*
Just shut up and pay up, seems to be the situation.  I will watch with interest what YS has to say about this story.  I really hope they don't let her off the hook too easily.

In Topic: Sonthi Lobs Explosive Bill Into House

Today, 10:59

View PostBuchholz, on Today, 10:16 , said:

View PostThai at Heart, on Today, 09:03 , said:

Still haven't the foggiest why on earth Sonthi is doing this.

make that "yesterday's" paper

View PostBuchholz, on Yesterday, 19:43 , said:

View PostTomTao, on Yesterday, 16:39 , said:

so the general who led the coup sponsors the bill, why? Was he promised a position when he who was ousted by the coup returns? Was he promised a financial boon in return for paving the way for the ousted one to return?


Yes, he's been given oversight of the Defense Ministry budget.

There's a number of inconsistencies with Sonthi. For one, he's the only MP of his Party in Parliament (he's literally a one man Party) and yet he's been put in charge of the reconciliation committee and supervisor of the defense budget.

The other paper today has a good article on the situation.


But does he really need to be given a paper title such as overseer of the army budget?  What does he get out of any of this, other than forcing everyone to walk around scratching their heads?  It isn't as though he couldn't have been given plenty of paper titles sitting on boards of companies in his old age that would have seen him more than taken care of for services rendered in the coup.  

I understand that by leaving the army he has opened himself up to some sort of possible prosecution, but to say that his conduct is odd, is an understatement

In Topic: Australian Businesswoman Arrested In Thailand For Criminal Defamation

Today, 10:39

View Postphiphidon, on Today, 10:30 , said:

View PostThai at Heart, on Today, 09:00 , said:

View PostNisa, on Today, 08:58 , said:

Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, who is currently visiting Australia, is reportedly due to hold a press conference in Sydney today, where she will address the matter.



Read more: http://www.brisbanet...l#ixzz1wDgnVsyZ



I hope the reporters give her a grilling trying to explain away this ridiculous law.

So you take Yingluck to task to explain this, to you, "ridiculous" law to the Australians when it has been on the law books since 1957? Any other old laws you'd like her to take responsibility for?
As the current PM of the country, with a majority, her government is largely free to write any law it likes.

It would be interesting if she even dares to mention whether she agrees with the law or not.  Criminal defamation in Thailand has been held up to international scrutiny for many years.  I wonder what her views of it are.  After all, she is only the PM.  The law has far more far reaching implications that business discussions.

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