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Wallaby, on 2010-09-22 16:51:55, said:

Ah! Finally a sensible, measured post.

It never ceases to amaze me how vitriolic the zealots can be when they get on their high horses.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, really. Zealots, like bigots , always seem to resort to hysterical histrionics when promoting their pet cause. And of course insult; the favoured resort of the ignorant and uninformed.

Reason doesn't enter into it. There is no "live and let live" approach.

It's "I don't like it, so let's ban it so nobody can do it".

And it's true what Wallaby says about the bars. If having a non-smoking bar was such a good idea, why didn't all the bars voluntarily ban smoking? There was a pub chain in the UK that preempted the legislation by banning smoking in all their pubs. They lost so much business that they had to do a U-turn and remove the ban.

Chatuchak market should never allow smoking in the warren of stalls there, it's a conflagration waiting to happen. But out of the main market in the roadside bars and cafes, there is no rational reason at all to ban smoking. As already pointed out, it's just a money spinning scam.

Rumblecat sounds like a decent, considerate person.  Good on you RC, you area good bloke who considers others when indulging your vice.  I definitely won't be pi$ing on you after a few beers!!!

Wallaby (post above) said  I hate it when the do gooders impose their own will on what people should and shouldn't do. Harden up and move on to something important in your life than worrying about what others are doing to theirs.


Wallaby, if you were only doing it to your life I wouldn't care in the least, but your smoke ruins my clothes, my rather pleasant personal odour, and my health.  I don't worry about what you're doing to your life, but I do worry about what you smokers are doing to mine!!!

Wow what a bunch of wanke_rs we have unearthed in this thread.

My parents smoke. I don't smoke.  I don't care if the guy beside me smokes.  My clothes will smell of all kinds of pollution (including my own sweat) so a bit of a smokey smell mixed in doesn't worry me.  I can also walk past people in the street LEGALLY smoking without a fear that a couple of breaths of their smoke is going to give me cancer.  I'm probably more likely to get cancer from all the preservatives in the food and the pollution from all sorts of things these days than inhaling a little bit of smoke.

A friend was having a smoke out on the footpath a few weeks ago.  A woman wasn't watching where she was going and bumped his smoke and slightly burnt her arm.  The woman went off on a rant and my friend just stood there and took it.  In the end I just told her that we were standing there talking, if she can't watch what where she is walking then it's her fault, suck it up and f*ck off.

If a person is smoking in a place that isn't banned that's fine, nothing to do with anyone else because it is LEGAL, if you don't like it then tough.

As for the poster saying the bars in Australia didn't have a problem being smoke free.  I suggest you crawl out from under your rock.  The smoking ban is the biggest reason many bar owners have gone bust.  When it was first being determined most bar owners wanted the choice whether to place a smoking ban or not.  Surely if it would be such a money spinner to be smoke free then all bars would have jumped at the chance, but that wasn't the case. All bars were made to be smoke free.

How about they be given a choice, if a bar has smokers, then non smokers have an option not to go there.  If a bar doesn't allow smoking then smokers have the option of not going there.

I hate it when the do gooders impose their own will on what people should and shouldn't do.  Harden up and move on to something important in your life than worrying about what others are doing to theirs.

Soi Sauce, on 2010-09-22 14:34:07, said:

If you're addressing me Soi Sauce, and you may be, of course I would have an objection to any of your by products being put my way.  Didn't you understand that???


What I was saying was that if you think it your right to make my clothes and person stink like you do, without my consent, then I should have equal rights and be able to pi$$ over you, or worse.


Soi Sauce gets a bit of stick so resorts to personal insults.  I don't condone or even suggest anything/everything the Australian government/s have done is all OK, nor could any citizen of any country, but your rather illogical attack is infantile in the extreme.


You have rather foolishly made the assumption that I am a native born Australian (I am not) living in one of Australia's most polluted cities (I do not).   I live in the country, 30 Kms west of Melbourne, Australia, where the air is about as pure as it can be.   So, your silly little tirade has fallen flat.


You're welcome to come back for another shot if you wish, but please don't make yourself look such a fool next time.


You won't change opinion that smoking is a filthy habit, imposed on others by arrogant, selfish people, and any moves to ban the practice in Thailand or anywhere else in the world, can't be a bad thing.


Well put GarryP.

Oh hel_l no.

Drop the attempts at political correctness Thailand. It doesn't suit you.

I'll respect this smoking ban about as much as I respect any smoking ban.




[b]You selfish bastard. I remember the time when one of your kind was in the crowded, hot market that is JJ, and when my wife walked past she happened to brush past one of your stinking smoker friends, burning not just a hole in her dress, but also her leg. The perp that did this, well all he could do was walk away.


[b]Its not just the extra added unpleasant smell that smoking adds to the mix, it is the danger of someone getting burned, or their clothes being damaged. Please dont let the fact that there are children there too, and guess what, their eyes are somewhat in the line of fire too (pun intended), to receive a cigarette to the eyes or face.


[b]So if any one of you smokers is so callous to believe that you have a right to smoke in such a confined area as JJ, and that you have the right to wave a smoldering pseudo weapon around in such a place, then you had better not run into me!!!!!!!


[b]The smoking ban in JJ should be reinforced with more than a 2000b fine, but for the damages that a smoker causes to another when contact is made with the cigarette itself.



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Apart from the advanced name i find no pleasure in this comment.

The reason i came to live in Thailand is to avoid exactly this kind of nearsighted bitter old morons who make life sooo unpleasant.

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welsh1, on 2010-09-22 16:17:10, said:

Any time. Just remember the green plus button on the lower right side. Have a nice stay.

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