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micksterbs

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In Topic: PM Yingluck Wants Anti-Graft Measures Strengthened

2012-04-29 02:24:59

View Posthellodolly, on 2012-04-29 01:28:33, said:

View Postmicksterbs, on 2012-04-28 22:38:31, said:

View Postsadoc, on 2012-04-28 22:20:44, said:

At the end of the day not a lot changes , so we can all stay here !. Imagine if they were to actually stop corruption , uphold the law , put working cameras in the traffic/speeding cam boxes , arrest and actually charge people for speeding , jumping a light , going down a street the wrong way etc , resulting in fines , penalty points, increased insurance costs etc , hell we might as well go back to the countries we all got out of  where most of us were too low in the food chain to be involved in Western Style Corruptuon which is only for the western elite ( politicians and corporations especially )
Yes it is corrupt in Thailand but not just for the Thai Elite

Not quite sure what you're getting at here. I think most western expats would be only too glad to see some facets of Thai life more resemble "home". An impartial, professional police force. An independant judiciary. A free press. State health/education that wasn't a complete joke. You make it sound as if we came here due to the absence of these things but maybe I'm simply mis-reading you...

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You make it sound like you want it just like you had at home. Only I would bet you would not like the measures they take to raise the money. TAX

No, not at all; I loved Thailand because it was so totally different. But the examples that Sadoc used, stopping corruption, upholding the law, etc, etc, are issues that I would suggest are quite dear to most expats' hearts and I'm sure that you, like most of us, could cite many examples of corruption and dodgy policing. You can love a country without being blind to its shortcomings just as we do with our own countries.

In Topic: PM Yingluck Wants Anti-Graft Measures Strengthened

2012-04-29 01:20:47

View PostGentlemanJim, on 2012-04-29 00:54:19, said:

View Postmicksterbs, on 2012-04-28 22:18:49, said:

Exactly. Prison is for the great unwashed. Nice people don't really break the law, as such; they are just having a bad day.

Make a donation to the appropriate person, release a few fish and/or birds and look contrite for the camera and all's well.

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And...Go and do a month in a Monastery and then visit as many monasteries as you can the following month and the charges you will get off with will not only be corruption, but terrorism and incitement to murder as well!

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In Topic: No Political Issues Discussed With Prem: PM Yingluck

2012-04-29 01:17:50

View Postbigbamboo, on 2012-04-28 23:28:40, said:

So no political discussions that could quite possibly have made reference to Number One.

She could have done that on ThaiVisa!

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In Topic: No Political Issues Discussed With Prem: PM Yingluck

2012-04-29 01:16:57

View Posthyperdimension, on 2012-04-28 23:14:58, said:

View Postmicksterbs, on 2012-04-28 22:28:56, said:

He is politics.
He is above politics.

Yes, that's what he'd like you to think...

In Topic: PM Yingluck Wants Anti-Graft Measures Strengthened

2012-04-29 00:09:21

View Postsadoc, on 2012-04-28 23:50:13, said:

I cannot speak for other farangs , but If all the corruption in Thailand was to be commandered by the Elite as it has in the west , who then take my money to impose their big brother ideas on me , tax me to the hilt to give it away to the third world or spend it on bombing people , Then yes I think it would be time to leave Thailand .  
The western way has simply not worked , In the uk we have a generation of illiterate innumerate cretins running around the streets either dealing or stealing , when they are caught we don't punish them , we try and cure them with goodwill , parents are not allowed to discipline their children ,
schools are not allowed to discipline the children so nobody does .
I prefer this corrupt society where although I may have to pay a policeman tea money to catch the culprit , that b'tard who robbed me is going to a crap jail for a long time . In the uk I cannot even offer the cops money to come out for a burglary nowadays , and if perchance they trip over the burglar on his 90th offence he can expect a few easy months in a single cell ,with three squares,  tv & playstation , and I get to pay for that as well .

I find myself in agreement with some of what you say about the general malaise that seems to be creeping through the West like a cancer and that was a reasonably-sized part of what brought me to LOS in the first place. But as for "take my money to impose their big brother ideas on me", then I think you'll find Thailand to be a hundred times worse. At least in the UK and the West we have a free press and freedom of speech. You'll struggle to find that in Thailand where newspapers, TV and radio stations are owned and run by the army or their proxies and where one has to be very mindful of lese majeste laws.

I returned to the UK when our daughter was born. We realised that there was no way that state education would even come close to what we wanted for her (my wife and I both taught in Thailand; my wife is Thai) and so we uprooted and came to the UK, imperfections and all.

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