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Should have bought the car on credit so she would have hung on to ''you''. The first thing that came to mind is she is now going to sell it, nice little earner.
#5335610 Can He Get His Car Back?
Posted
on 2012-05-27 11:57:22
OP, a lesson learned. Any one in LOS who showers a girl in cash is daft, as you WILL get milked.
Should have bought the car on credit so she would have hung on to ''you''. The first thing that came to mind is she is now going to sell it, nice little earner.
Should have bought the car on credit so she would have hung on to ''you''. The first thing that came to mind is she is now going to sell it, nice little earner.
#5336783 Driving 125 Cc Scooter And Have Licence For 50 Cc - No Problem In Pattaya
Posted
on 2012-05-27 19:58:45
wana, on 2012-05-24 19:39:25, said:
macknife, on 2012-05-24 17:27:04, said:
marstons, on 2012-05-24 14:17:54, said:
if in accident and you have licence still your fault
if Thai is blind drunk on wrong side of road no lights still your fault, you not here accident not happen.
if Thai is blind drunk on wrong side of road no lights still your fault, you not here accident not happen.I know a few people(farang) here that have had accident that was not their fault and they paid not one baht, the Thai had to pay for everything.
In many cases police show favouritism to thai citizens when ascessing who was at fault
many cases maybe that the farang cant explain himself properly anyway due to language skills
Ive often heard when two thais have an accident ,the richer pays for the poorer or the car driver
pays for the motorcyclist injuries etc
This does often happen but it is only true when the richer person offers it, it's not obligatory. This is due to the deeply engrained patronage system in Thailand and the concept of Kharma.
I have had two wealthy by Thai standards farang riding buddies of mine each have this happen. Each on 800,000B+ bikes, one a Harley, one a BMW. Police found the Thai at fault but both cases the farangs did not ask anything from the Thai's, and one even helped with some of the Thai's medical bills. All voluntarily. It's the Thai way.
#5336706 Driving 125 Cc Scooter And Have Licence For 50 Cc - No Problem In Pattaya
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on 2012-05-27 19:20:27
All very nice in theory, but the reality is in the real world that the police here just don't care. It's not an opinion or advice, but simply stating the situation as it is.
#5336299 Driving 125 Cc Scooter And Have Licence For 50 Cc - No Problem In Pattaya
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on 2012-05-27 16:10:51
Polanskiman, on 2012-05-26 08:50:24, said:
madjbs, on 2012-05-25 14:29:47, said:
Well the truth is that the police in Thailand really don't care what license you have or much else at all for that matter. If you give them an official looking foreign card they will be quite happy...
Whether you need one in case of an accident or insurance claim is another matter though.
Whether you need one in case of an accident or insurance claim is another matter though.
As much as many foreigners like to act the way you just discribed, it is not correct. You are in a foreign country. Respect the country, respect the laws. I am sure you wouldn't behave the same way in your home country.
Maybe the police in my own country care whether people have a driving license or not.....
I don't know about you but I didn't move here because everyone (including the police) behaves like they do in my home country.
Your argument doesn't really wash, If the police have no respect for the laws they are supposedly meant to enforce, then it's going to be pretty hard to get anyone else to respect them.
#5178008 Motorbike Accident Near Wat Lamai Yesterday
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on 2012-03-30 20:47:02
jamesbrock, on 2012-03-30 19:29:54, said:
All very good advice, but when the vultures are waiting at the police station for you to be hurried out of one hospital, and the police demand you come straight to said police station before seeking competent medical attention at another hospital, you don't really have much choice.
Of course you have a choice. A polite request to the police officer to hang on a couple of days untill the swelling goes down will I am sure do the trick. And you can perhaps suggest that whilst he is waiting, he can get ready the copies of the license, insurance certificate and residents address of the guy you ran into, and also 3 written quotations from reputable car repair garages for the damage you inflicted for your immediate consideration. Oh, and maybe as you seem to not have a 100% recollection of how you managed to end up in a wheelchair, perhaps the officer would be so kind as to check the CCTV footage from the local shops to find out who this mysterious extra biker might be.
I am sure that will work.
#5177067 Motorbike Accident Near Wat Lamai Yesterday
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on 2012-03-30 14:46:32
jamesbrock, on 2012-03-30 12:29:29, said:
gusG, on 2012-03-30 11:37:59, said:
Where are the pictures, and how much did you end up paying?
I only got two from a friend, which were taken after the bike was pulled out from under the truck. Just a written off bike; nothing to see there.
angryfarang, on 2012-03-30 11:41:35, said:
I do sympathise with you. I hate dealing with these people in this sort of situation. I've been there myself a few times. It sucks. Big time. They just see an opportunity to get cash.
One time my ex-girlfriend had an accident and I went to the police station to give her support. A horrible experience. She went in the to the back of someone's car. The owner of the car was a decent guy, he was fine about it, he said his insurance would deal with it, no problem.
5 minutes later his fat wanna-be-gangster brother turned up with his gold chains thinking he was some hard-ass dude from one of those rap videos. "Your girlfriend you pay" he said to me. I told him where he could go. He kept going on at me so I stood up and got right in his face. I would have clocked him one and choked him out. Idiot. One of the policemen intervened (I think they were tired of this guy now) and told me to leave and that I could come back later to get my girlfriend.
In the end the police sorted it out between my girlfriend and car owner, she didn't pay anything as he was happy the insurance would cover it. Decent guy.
One time my ex-girlfriend had an accident and I went to the police station to give her support. A horrible experience. She went in the to the back of someone's car. The owner of the car was a decent guy, he was fine about it, he said his insurance would deal with it, no problem.
5 minutes later his fat wanna-be-gangster brother turned up with his gold chains thinking he was some hard-ass dude from one of those rap videos. "Your girlfriend you pay" he said to me. I told him where he could go. He kept going on at me so I stood up and got right in his face. I would have clocked him one and choked him out. Idiot. One of the policemen intervened (I think they were tired of this guy now) and told me to leave and that I could come back later to get my girlfriend.
In the end the police sorted it out between my girlfriend and car owner, she didn't pay anything as he was happy the insurance would cover it. Decent guy.
Thanks. It just sucks how every man and their dog turns up to try to get something on these occasions. Good to hear the police weren't on his side that time!
insertmembernamehere, on 2012-03-30 11:54:58, said:
So you hit a patch of water, slid and came off the bike and a truck then hit the bike on the ground? Then apparently another bike hit the truck?
I must have this wrong since I don't see how anyone would be paying except maybe the truck driver for compounding the damage to your bike. Where am I getting this mixed up?
I must have this wrong since I don't see how anyone would be paying except maybe the truck driver for compounding the damage to your bike. Where am I getting this mixed up?
I had come around the corner and crossed the road to stop in front of the fruit shop; the owner had just finished spraying the road as there was water all over it. They didn't have what we wanted so I took off, crossing the road again and heading away from the corner. The road was clear in both directions so my acceleration was normal (i.e. sedate). As I straightened up, my rear wheel lost traction. I tried to correct it, but as mentioned earlier, I obviously lack the required skills.
Three or four fishtails later, after not even travelling 20 meters, and still travelling quite slowly, we hit the road and slid across the yellow line into the path of a - by the driver's own admission - speeding pick-up. Which side we were sliding on is what I'm not sure of. I recall seeing the pick up bearing down on us while we were on our side, and thinking '<expletive deleted>'. At that stage I knew I was going to die. My only thought was to try to save my girlfriend - if I could move her backwards the pick-up might not get her too badly. So I gave one almighty push with both legs, to try to get her off the back of the seat, just as the pick-up hit the motorbike and destroyed it. From me seeing the pick-up to it hitting the bike was less than two seconds; as I wrote above, my left foot was still under the bike when he hit it, or above it, as it was hit too... It's pretty messy.
When I realised that I'd somehow made it, I yelled out for my girlfriend. She didn't answer. I looked around towards the pick up, which was stopped at the exact spot we took off form a few seconds earlier, and, thankfully, could not see her in amongst the carnage; it was then I realised that she was clung to my back like a baby koala. We sat up, and tried to get off the road, but I couldn't use my arms or legs, so I just sat there helpless for ten seconds or so surveying the scene and thanking my lucky stars. I did not see a second motorbike.
The cynical amongst us would say that you're forgetting to see, is I'm a farang... And while that may be the reason I had to pay, I take full responsibility for coming off the bike, and, in doing so, causing damage to a vehicle coming the opposite direction.
I just love these post's. I worried about my GF. If you were so worried you should have made sure she was wearing a helmet before going anywhere. As for speeding pickup that hit you bike if he was speeding he did well to stop in 20 meters. Only lesson is learn and accept you made a big mistake.
#5332646 Traffic Accident Victim In The Family - And Corrupt Cops
Posted
on 2012-05-26 08:42:38
richard_smith237, on 2012-05-26 08:11:20, said:
Even the last two times I've been pulled over in my car (twice in 2 years) I refused to accept fault and eventually waved along (Thai's were also pulled over in other cars). However, before that when I knew I had done something wrong I accepted fault quickly and dealt with the matter efficiently.
This is precisely my experience.
As a foreigner, of course I'm an easy target but I've found that the more you stand up to them the more they will back down. In my first couple of years driving in Thailand I was regularly pulled aside at tollbooths claiming I'd illegally swapped lanes etc; 200 seemed an easy solution.
However, as i learned more Thai and gained more confidence, the dynamic changed. Sure I would get pulled over, but by calmly asking the precise details of what I had done and insisting there was no infringment and standing my ground, I've found they soon get bored - it's usually 2-3 minutes - realise you're not a pushover and tell you to move on.
It's intriguing watching their big greedy 'oh, a farang opportunity' eyes get more an more disappointed as they realise this one is not gonna get suckered.
There is not much I don't like about Thailand, except for the police. I truly despise them and refuse to be bullied by the pot-bellied pigs.
#5330315 Taxes Paid But No Plate..
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on 2012-05-25 11:54:49
wana, on 2012-05-18 09:31:08, said:
I suspect someone is lieing you and you may be too thick to realise it
a licence costs around 500 IF YOU PASS THE TEST PROPERLY
You think the staff are going to pay the 500 for you out of their own pockets to get a bribe of -300 thb?
a licence costs around 500 IF YOU PASS THE TEST PROPERLY
You think the staff are going to pay the 500 for you out of their own pockets to get a bribe of -300 thb?
1. I paid my MC driving license on 11 December 2011 at a cost of 155 baht to be precise. All done legally at the Department of Land Transportation. Not sure where you paid yours but obviously you got ripped off.
2. To answer to the OP on my experience. I bought a V on credit. Since the bike partly belongs to the credit company, I do not have any Green Book. I will get it when I am finished paying the credit. Presently I still don't have any plate, not even a red plate. I will probably get the permanent plate in one month time. For now when I have been stopped by the police none has made any comment about it (I didn't even present my driving license or any document), they even complimented me how nice the bike was (Amazing Thailand)!! Now, our cases are very different because I am in the process of getting the plate and I can prove it. In your case if you can prove with official documents that your plate is being done I guess it wouldn't be a problem to drive around. That's my assumption.
#5329194 Driving 125 Cc Scooter And Have Licence For 50 Cc - No Problem In Pattaya
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on 2012-05-25 01:24:34
wantan, on 2012-05-25 01:18:36, said:
thaicbr, on 2012-05-25 00:43:21, said:
wantan, on 2012-05-25 00:33:51, said:
Yes, i will probably take a first class insurance on my next bike. But it would have been much money i had spent for insurance of my Tiger just to avoid a few hours sitting around.
In fact you and BigBikeBkk were saying exactly the same than i do. Being involved in an accident in Thailand is difficult as foreigner. Good if you have first class insurance. If not you quickly will be concerned with an "urban myth" of paying for things you haven't done or at least not get back all your money you need to repair your bike
Yes, regarding topic: Please make a valid license if you stay in Thailand for longer time. For short time its best to use an international driving licence.
In fact you and BigBikeBkk were saying exactly the same than i do. Being involved in an accident in Thailand is difficult as foreigner. Good if you have first class insurance. If not you quickly will be concerned with an "urban myth" of paying for things you haven't done or at least not get back all your money you need to repair your bike
Yes, regarding topic: Please make a valid license if you stay in Thailand for longer time. For short time its best to use an international driving licence.
You do not need 1st class some companies offer 3rd or 2nd class. Effectively theft cover with bail bond. It is the bail bond that is most important that's your get out of police holding cell card.
Personally when I have dealt with police reference accidents they have been professional ie listening to both sides and asking witnesses and looking at the evidence. Both times I was lucky to have a Thai that spoke English to help. This is the main reason we stress insurance. They provide the bail bond and the intermediary to talk with the police etc.
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If i spend the money for a decent insurance than i will take a first class for a new bike. Should be a much better feeling when the next shit happens. But thanks for the hint. Will think about it and try to find information about prices for 2nd 3rd class Bail bond insurance
But what to do with the scooter? And the bicycles? Am i also stupid to ride my bicycles without first class insurance? I guess i am
BigBikeBkk can say what he want and throw around more flouts. Its not possible to care about all risks in a country like LOS. You really have to spend much much money if you want all risks to be taken away. Maybe possible if your only passion is motorcycles. I have much more interests.
If your bicycle is worth a lot of money then insure it... simple
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#5329182 Driving 125 Cc Scooter And Have Licence For 50 Cc - No Problem In Pattaya
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on 2012-05-25 01:12:54
radiola, on 2012-05-25 01:03:18, said:
what pinned thread, again please post the street of the office where i can go to make a licence and what docs i need to bring with me
Blimey mate... you really need your hand holding don't you. If you are using a Windows computer or Android app go to the Car / Motor section then at the top you have either pinned or sticky section click on that and then 1 year 5 year driving license .. if you really can't find it then give up driving /riding and buy a white stick and seeing eye dog because you're blind
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#5328280 Driving 125 Cc Scooter And Have Licence For 50 Cc - No Problem In Pattaya
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on 2012-05-24 17:27:04
marstons, on 2012-05-24 14:17:54, said:
if in accident and you have licence still your fault if Thai is blind drunk on wrong side of road no lights still your fault, you not here accident not happen.
if Thai is blind drunk on wrong side of road no lights still your fault, you not here accident not happen.I know a few people(farang) here that have had accident that was not their fault and they paid not one baht, the Thai had to pay for everything.
#5326915 Driving 125 Cc Scooter And Have Licence For 50 Cc - No Problem In Pattaya
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on 2012-05-24 10:31:12
the topic is about a bike licence not how many question marks someone puts in a post. Some people can be real wanakers.
Back to the op's question. I think you have been lucky, there a lot more checks around Pattaya and once i show them a thai licence they are happy to wave me on. I can confirm it is easy to get but probably not worth it if you are just here on holidays. I think the law is that you must have a valid international licence, not just a licence from your own country. Even then, some of the cops won't accept the International licence and also be aware that after 3 months in Thailand the International licence is no longer valid.
I didn't have an australian bike licence so had to do the whole test rimorole (sight/reaction tests, answer questions on a computer in english and then a 1 minute riding test) which takes all morning (if you pass the computer test first time round!!), but they issued me a car licence in 10 minutes using my Australian licence.
Back to the op's question. I think you have been lucky, there a lot more checks around Pattaya and once i show them a thai licence they are happy to wave me on. I can confirm it is easy to get but probably not worth it if you are just here on holidays. I think the law is that you must have a valid international licence, not just a licence from your own country. Even then, some of the cops won't accept the International licence and also be aware that after 3 months in Thailand the International licence is no longer valid.
I didn't have an australian bike licence so had to do the whole test rimorole (sight/reaction tests, answer questions on a computer in english and then a 1 minute riding test) which takes all morning (if you pass the computer test first time round!!), but they issued me a car licence in 10 minutes using my Australian licence.
#5326812 Driving 125 Cc Scooter And Have Licence For 50 Cc - No Problem In Pattaya
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on 2012-05-24 09:47:44
wana, on 2012-05-24 09:37:22, said:
thaicbr, on 2012-05-24 08:34:03, said:
radiola, on 2012-05-24 03:04:32, said:
I have just a car licence that is valid also for small scooters in EU.
But here in Pattaya I drive 125 suzuki scooter, and police stopped me twice, no complaints when I showed them my eu licence.
If I drive 250 kawasaki ninja or honda 250r will they give me problems?
Thanks, i dont want to make a new licence just for big bikes...
If I drive 650 kawasaki, what will happen if I show them my licence, will they take away my bike or just fine me?
But here in Pattaya I drive 125 suzuki scooter, and police stopped me twice, no complaints when I showed them my eu licence.
If I drive 250 kawasaki ninja or honda 250r will they give me problems?
Thanks, i dont want to make a new licence just for big bikes...
If I drive 650 kawasaki, what will happen if I show them my licence, will they take away my bike or just fine me?
Getting a thai bike license is very easy. Just go down the transport dept and sort it out . About 2-3 hours of your time.
Stop mucking around. Where do you live in Thailand????
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He mentioned already , Pattaya ,sometimes it helps to read the read the first post before spamming another thread
So telling some one to get a thai bike license is spamming.
Jesus your a sausage short of a dozen .
OP. get a thai license. It is very. Very easy. In fact if your current license is in english and shows motorcycle privilege many land transport offices will give you a driving license (bike and car) without doing the test. Just color test and reaction test. Good luck
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#5323266 Bangkok To Ho Chi Minh Vietnam
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on 2012-05-22 23:28:54
There still cute
#5321412 Pimp My Versys
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on 2012-05-22 11:06:41
commande, on 2012-05-21 13:20:39, said:
Straight from Power Commander Website; performed on a Versys, not sure year model but little to nothing has changed - as one can see, very little performance increase except in the lower throttle range where Torque matters more than HP which is typical with add-on fuel injection computers; torque gets you going faster from start, not horse power and one can see there is no torque measurement provided
You are talking as if HP and torque are two completely different things, which is not the case as HP is in fact a function of torque and RPM. At any given RPM, if HP has been improved then so has torque by definition. By saying that a HP increase at low RPMs is irrelevant because it is torque that is important is incorrect, it is very relevant as it means by definition that torque in that low RPM range has also been improved.
