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australia network is airing a damming report on the elephant trade in los soon

cup-O-coffee, on 2012-03-17 14:49:18, said:

2 days ago the missus tried to get the local vet to spay our dog and what to do now to stop any pups...as she was raped recently....as it was longer than 10 days, he said nothing as they did not do abortions and it was best to let them come and find homes for them.

Found another vet...he did it and she is now spayed.

belg, on 2012-03-16 10:02:06, said:

Well in all honesty, if I tell you exactly how ignorant that sounds, and/or stupid you are, my post will be deleted.

But consider this: A dog, whether wild, privately "owned", or living as a resident street dog with regular food source (and name), is captured, stuffed in a wire crate with several others with no room to move, if not sophocated along the way, faces a brutal beating, alive, to torture it prior to skinning, still alive, and left to hang with a meat hook through it's face, and then gutted, often while still in shock and breathing, .. to be finally butchered for cooking. The entire torture process, which is done to make it "taste better", can take anything from two hours for the lucky ones to a day or more.

You think this is the "best solution" .. ? You perhaps deserve the same.

WFFT charges top DNP officials with defamation
Phuket Gazette


Edwin Wiek (left) explains to a Swiss film crew about the recent developments in Thailand's elephant trade. Photo: WFFT


A bull elephant at Kaeng Krachan National Park, where the Thai elephant trade crackdown fiasco all began. Photo: WFFT

PHUKET: -- A Dutch-born wildlife activist has filed defamation charges against top-ranking Thai officials of the Department of National Parks, Wildlife and Plant Conservation (DNP) for claiming his shelter in Petchaburi was involved in the torture and trade of protected wildlife species.

Full story: http://www.thaivisa....ith-defamation/

metisdead, on 2012-03-12 13:55:08, said:

" a post containing disguised profanity." do you mean by using symbols in place of letters?

On topic, elephants and their treatment by humans is just one example amongst many, tigers are even worse off. Humans and animals compete for common resources, some animals only survive at all in zoos and nature reserves because of their novelty value to attract tourist money.
I have visited zoos in many Asian countries and deplore the way many animals are kept.
I feel that tourists rather than avoiding such places should visit them and complain.

The man that was arrested yesterday was very well known by DNP and police and had nothing to do with the slaughterhouse in Bangkok, as a matter of fact most species found there such as zebra and wildebeest are not even found at the Sraburi location. Mr Y has been arrested in 2003 for illegal possession of wildlife but was after being found guilty allowed to keep the animals anyhow (...).
This place also made big national news in 2004 and 2005 when it was said that people tried to steal tigers from this house and killed them with poison, two dead poisoned tigers were found in their cages. At this time no one asked for proof of ownership again (...)
Now yesterday the house gets raided again, and the owner claims to have ownership papers, says he breeds, imports and exports wildlife for zoos. He is given 3-5 days to produce the paperwork including CITES paperwork for legal imports of protected wildlife.

Now a few of my questions;
-What "intelligence" will you need to find and raid a house that has been raided twice before with lots of illegal wildlife found?
-How can someone have CITES import papers for protected wildlife while he/she does not have a zoo license?
-As this person has had wildlife registered for the last 8-9 years, why has he never been checked at all? Why suddenly now?
last but not least:
-Why is he given 3-5 days to produce paperwork while a registered wildlife rescue center is given 2 and a half hours, to take the animals away on immediate bases? Is there somehow a double standard here? Or are we witnessing some game?

Edwin Wiek
Founder
Wildlife Friends Foundation Thailand (WFFT)

will the poor thing ( tiger ) survive?

Thaddeus, on 2012-03-05 15:50:21, said:

Warnings not to burn forests, fields and any rubbish the people want to get rid of is useless. Throw some of the worst offenders for a year into prison, so that they have time to think about the damage they do to their fellow human beings and to the economy of their country. Large scale pollution is more worrying for tourists than a few bombs in Bangkok.
What after all is the difference between this and sellng drugs to people wihth which they ruin their health.
All the Farang do-gooders will now tell me about burning being part of Thai culture. Culture is a value-free expression and that sort of culture is of extremely low value

Bring on global warming and the next ice age, we need to kill off about 5 billion people.  The human race is a menace to everything, including itself.  And only a very tiny fraction of the earths population cares a shit about pollution.  So issue all the warnings you want I am happy to see the life span of most humans shortened.

Sorry if that offends any of you.  Well not really.

NO one should be in chains especially the mentally ill. They must be helped. The only people who needs to be in chains are murderers and politicians. Well, politicians need to have their mouths gagged as well.

otherstuff1957, on 2012-02-17 15:13:42, said:

I read some statistics some time ago that a fairly large number of homeless do have psychological problems.  The question is, are they homeless due to mental illness or have a mental illness due to being homeless?

Possibly in reference to "House Battle Breaks Out" the Public Health Ministry explained this move by saying it only seemed fair as politicians were already let off the leash and allowed to roam freely  

Driving from Lampang to Cmai up over the mountain range and down into the valley bowl in which Cmai sits, one can actually denote the various colored levels of pollution.  As you descend there are layers of pink, purple, grey, brown, and more simply hanging meanacingly over the valley bowl. Take your local MP on a return trip: mind you, s/he probably could care less.  

chiang mai, on 2012-02-17 10:06:02, said:

How do you change a centuries old habit? Like you change anything, by making the first step. I didn't say it's easy, or that I have a plan. I am just saying that's what needs to happen. If you think that it would be impossible be my guest - I don't think it is. But that's a different discussion.

"Also, what makes you think the pollution is caused by burning within Thailand, maybe the majority of it is carried in on air currents from China and the like" ROFL. Map reading does not seem your strong suit. Or maybe you subscribe to the Korean BBQ theory proposed by CM authorities some years ago?

It's obvious both on a local, and on a global level: Locally, if you live in Pai for a few years you'll notice the most astounding correlation: If the mountains are on fire at night, the air gets really bad. If you're sitting in the middle of a bonfire you don't need to be asking where the smoke is coming from.
Globally, just look at the above satellite map. Thailand, Laos, Burma, Cambodia are all on fire. Fire is known to cause smoke, and smoke causes air pollution. Huge, major burning causes major pollution. Singapore/Malaysia has the same problem with "Haze" as it's euphemistically called from forest fires in Indonesia. Seasonal, same as here.

I think it's amazing people could even be thinking about other causes, yet it happens every year. "Maybe it's the cars" - cars are not seasonal. The big fires are. "Maybe its the Korean BBQs?" Well they're not seasonal either, apart from the fact that the suggestion seems straight out of Monty Python. "The neighbor burning their trash" - that's annoying, and not helping, but please look at the sat map - there are LARGE SCALE fires all over the region. The satellite only shows fires of 10 hectares or more! One drive through the north of Thailand and you will see that apart from the huge fires captured by the satellite, there are smaller fires everywhere.

In fact at the end of the summer, you will be hard pressed to find a section of the forest that has not been burnt. The locals are doing it for a variety of reasons and as you said have been doing so for generations. That doesn't mean it's good, or that they need to keep on doing it as only now do we have the means to trace cause and effect, we have the satellite images and the hospital statistics from that time of the year. All the data is there, the cost associated with the burning I am sure stands in no relation to the gains - just like in other parts of the world where burning used to be the way to do things.
/rant