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In Topic: Thailand Is Not Like China In Its Attitudes Toward Foreigners (Yet?)

Today, 14:54

View PostF1fanatic, on Today, 14:35 , said:

Sirineou - The 'average' Thai is not going to be reading this forum... but yes, those foreigners that behave badly will reinforce negative views about us.

Unlike some other posters here I think most (ordinary) Thais are racist generally, but make an exception for those foreigners they like.  A bit like (generally)Westerners back at home really....
a sensible reply on your part, and I am not disagreeing with it
what I am afraid is that an enterprising, unscrupulous,  politician that wants to make a name for him/her self, and gain some political power, might use such negating posts, by taking them out of context, publishing them, and using them to galvanize, and enlarge  his constituency base, in order to carry out his agenda,
with negative consequences toward foreigners.

In Topic: Thailand Is Not Like China In Its Attitudes Toward Foreigners (Yet?)

Today, 13:56

View PostF1fanatic, on Today, 13:34 , said:

View Postsirineou, on Today, 13:27 , said:

View PostF1fanatic, on Today, 12:54 , said:

View Postsirineou, on Today, 11:43 , said:

Is it possible ?
sure, anything is possible,
is it probable ?
This is difficult to predict, as there are so many variables.
but in the next 10 years I am willing to place the probability factor, closer to 1% than 15%
the 1% is so that the possibility remains open.
Having said all that, As western currencies decline in value, depleting the purchasing power of westerners, and the cost of living in Thailand increasing, I can see how the number of westerners living here might decrease on it's own.
Of course there is always the chance that  Thais might read some of the negative posts about them in some forums, how, many westerners talk about them, and the negative attitude  of some of us toward them. and I would not blame them if they chased us in the sea with pitchforks and knives.Posted Image

Ps: I wonder (let's say in the interest of discussion) How Americans,(or for that matter any westerner) would react, if they read in a forum (as we read posts about Thais in a regular basis) ,Muslims,living in their country, describing them as "lazy" "stupid" "thief's" "whores"and other words  that I cant bring my self to write.
Imagine how they will react toward them.
I think we better take stock of our selves, behave with more respect toward our hosts, or we could very well make the OP  question a reality.

Try reading the UK newspaper forums...  They are FULL of hatred against immigrants.  It used to be mainly the Moslems and Eastern Europeans, but a recent case (somewhere in the North of England) where a group of Asians 'groomed' and raped local young girls (from poor backgrounds) has led to one hell of a lot of Asian immigrant bashing - they believe all Asians are looking for young girls to sell off as prostitutes!

Edit - And, as far as I can see the UK is far less racist than many other European countries. i.e. BNP receive v little support.
exactly my point
As far as Muslims are concerned, I said " in the interest of discussion", and used them as an example because  of current relationships, it can easily be any immigrant  nationality in any country..
The point is
If we don't behave our selves, , could we find our selves in a similar situation also?

I don't think its got anything to do with whether we behave ourselves (although those that forget we are guests in a foreign country certainly don't help!) - its more whether those in power need someone to blame.... and foreigners are always a useful scapegoat.
I agree that politicians often use foreigners as scrape- goats to  to distract from other issues.
But don't you think, the way we behave has anything to do with the way we are perceived by a local population.
Don't you think if Thais read posts in open expat forums describing them in derogatory terms,would be resentful of it?
and don't you think that such resentment, and the political pressure resulting from it, might help in formulating policies toward foreigners.
They say that " possession is 9/10  of the law" I say it is not possession but perception. You might posses innocence,  but if a jury perceives you to be guilty, guess what? you are going to jail
We always need to be mindful  of the kind of perceptions we cultivate.

In Topic: My neighbor Urinated In My Garden...

Today, 13:40

View Postphuturatica, on Today, 10:34 , said:

I don't think I have seen any Thais urinating in my garden... Maybe they're just trying to tell you something? Posted Image  To be fair, if I was Thai and you went around calling Thai people 'scummy individuals' I would sure as hell piss in your garden too! Psh! Posted Image
^^^^^+1
I dont know where you all come up with these Threads, in all my six years of visiting and living in Thailand, no one has ever urinated in my garden, (that I know of) , my fence, or street. nor I am  aware of having ever happen at any one that I know. I have seen people doing it in the woods on the side of the highway, but I must admit I have done it my self, and dont think there is anything wrong with it.
Are we scrapping the bottom of the barrel for threads?

In Topic: Thailand Is Not Like China In Its Attitudes Toward Foreigners (Yet?)

Today, 13:27

View PostF1fanatic, on Today, 12:54 , said:

View Postsirineou, on Today, 11:43 , said:

Is it possible ?
sure, anything is possible,
is it probable ?
This is difficult to predict, as there are so many variables.
but in the next 10 years I am willing to place the probability factor, closer to 1% than 15%
the 1% is so that the possibility remains open.
Having said all that, As western currencies decline in value, depleting the purchasing power of westerners, and the cost of living in Thailand increasing, I can see how the number of westerners living here might decrease on it's own.
Of course there is always the chance that  Thais might read some of the negative posts about them in some forums, how, many westerners talk about them, and the negative attitude  of some of us toward them. and I would not blame them if they chased us in the sea with pitchforks and knives.Posted Image

Ps: I wonder (let's say in the interest of discussion) How Americans,(or for that matter any westerner) would react, if they read in a forum (as we read posts about Thais in a regular basis) ,Muslims,living in their country, describing them as "lazy" "stupid" "thief's" "whores"and other words  that I cant bring my self to write.
Imagine how they will react toward them.
I think we better take stock of our selves, behave with more respect toward our hosts, or we could very well make the OP  question a reality.

Try reading the UK newspaper forums...  They are FULL of hatred against immigrants.  It used to be mainly the Moslems and Eastern Europeans, but a recent case (somewhere in the North of England) where a group of Asians 'groomed' and raped local young girls (from poor backgrounds) has led to one hell of a lot of Asian immigrant bashing - they believe all Asians are looking for young girls to sell off as prostitutes!

Edit - And, as far as I can see the UK is far less racist than many other European countries. i.e. BNP receive v little support.
exactly my point
As far as Muslims are concerned, I said " in the interest of discussion", and used them as an example because  of current relationships, it can easily be any immigrant  nationality in any country..
The point is
If we don't behave our selves, , could we find our selves in a similar situation also?

In Topic: Which Is The Best, Big C, Tesco Or Makro?

Today, 12:11

View Postphuturatica, on Today, 10:36 , said:

I still haven't been to Makro! Am I missing out?!
If you are in to food, I think you are missing out.
I don't  know about all Makros, as I have only being to the one in my town Khon Kaen, but they have a large selection of sea food, meat and poultry, vegetables , good bakery, and anything you want to find in food.all at good prices.
Their other departments are good also, but their food dept. is outstanding IMO.

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