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tjansen

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In Topic: Highspeed Thai - Great Language Course Or What?

2012-04-15 19:48:44

View PostXOL123, on 2012-03-22 22:18:46, said:

UPDATE:  1 year and 4 months after using HST

Well I finish the course in about 1 year, and I can say that the money spent on this course wasn't wasted,
I have learned a lot from this course, I can have a basic conversation with native Thais, plus if I have a problem speaking the correct tone of a word I can write it down,
this is a very well put together course, it isn't a course that was put together overnight,

Now I have started reviewing the course about a month ago, and there are few words that I have forgotten and with the review the words are coming right back to my brain and hopefully stay there.
and while doing the review I have open the media player and have increased the speed to 2, and I'm able to catch every word, this is a big difference from when I started, that I could only let the media player play and didn't even dare to speed up the m player,

Overall this is an excellent course that will give you a good foundation to learn Thai, after I finish reviewing, I believe I'll have a much better understanding on the Thai language structure,

Because I don't live in Thailand I'm not able to use my Thai on a daily basis, so after I finish reviewing HST, I'll try to find other courses to further my study of the Thai language.

Vincent if you are reading this, GREAT JOB! on creating this course.

Has anyone tried LTP, Learn-Thai-Podcast?  Any comments on it?

Thanks,
Tom

In Topic: Nakon Pathom Immigration

2012-04-12 20:14:19

View PostMario2008, on 2012-04-12 14:32:47, said:

It is a normal work day, so there is no respon why they should be closed. The holiday starts tomorrow and governemnt will open up shop on Tuesday again.
Thanks for the reply.  I got my extension today.

I want to give a little heads up.  Even though you have the thirty-day window preceding the due date for renewing your extension, the letter from the bank and the copied pages of the bank book have to be done within seven days of when you choose to go to immigration.  For example, in my case, I entered the 30 day window on March 26, and soon thereafter, maybe 30 March, I made a deposit, updated my book, copied pages, and got the bank letter, so I would be ready to go..  Today, 12 days later, when I went to immigration, I had to make another 500 baht deposit, and redo the bank book update, copies, and the bank letter, because it was longer than 7 days.

Tom

In Topic: Alcoholism

2012-04-09 20:55:22

View Posttommckay1478, on 2011-10-27 13:52:52, said:

What if i I just like drinking and don't care if or when I die?
I have nothing to live for anyhow.
I like to answer questions when I see them, if I can.  I felt similarly, maybe not quite as strongly.  My wife at the time told me if I kept drinking, it would kill me.  I replied, "Good, I don't want to be alive anyway."  Something happened along the way, I think it was mainly reading a book called "I'll Quit Tomorrow" which described the progression of alcoholism on the way down, and the progression of recovery on the way back up.  I recognized myself perfectly in the first half and was greatly relieved that I had found an answer to what was wrong with me.  I also decided I wanted the second half of the equation, recovery, and started considered quitting, which I did not too long after that.

By the way, nowadays I don't try to talk people out of keeping the suicide option handy.  I consider it a "safety" valve, the use of which can limit how much a person has to put up with before pulling the plug.  I put saftety in quotes because I have read and heard in Dhamma talks that suicide solves nothing.  It continues in the next life where we left off.  Not knowing the validity of mulitple lives, I hesitate to actively endourage someone to commit suicide.

Thanks for the time.  I have another reply further down, or maybe further up, in this thread.

Tom J

In Topic: Alcoholism

2012-04-09 20:33:23

View Postgarro, on 2012-03-08 12:11:57, said:

View PostGrahamF, on 2012-03-08 11:52:01, said:

So am I Posted Image I think it is important that those who are struggling with alcoholism, or indeed any addiction, know that they have options. The 'one size fits all' approach to recovery is outdated and dangerous. I want AA to be there for the people who need it, but I also want other options discussed more openly too. We need to get real about addiction and honest about what works and what doesn't. In AA they like to say, 'doing the same things and expecting different results is insanity' - this also applies to repeatedly directing people back to the meetings when it is obviously not working for them.


I'll agree with you that one size does not fit all and AA is not for everyone.

One thing that is going on in AA right now is that many people seem to think that "the program" is all about going to meetings when in fact it is really about working the 12 Steps.  I firmly believe that if I had just attended meetings then AA would not have worked for me and I would be drinking again or dead.  But that's a whole other discussion. Posted Image

Edit:  The first paragraph is a quote from a post by garro.........I messed something up. Sorry Posted Image

Hi Graham, I found in my dealings with AA that those who worked the steps did tend to get more out of it. There is a lot of great stuff in the program and I do respect it.

You will have to take my word for it, but I did make an honest attempt to incorporate the steps into my life. The AA way of doing things just didn't suit me in the end. I did stay sober in the program for 2 years during my twenties, but for all of that time I always felt like my sobriety was hanging by a thread. I worked the steps, went to a meeting at least once a day, and had a sponsor. I did a lot of service. None of this prevented me from relapsing. I just didn’t feel comfortable being a recovering alcoholic – it was like I was still being controlled by alcohol.

In reality you could say that many of things in my life today that reflect the wisdom in the steps, but that is just because they are true even for people who don't belong to AA. I don't consider myself to be a recovering alcoholic, and I don't believe that I ever had a disease. When I left the Thai temple I also gave up being an alcoholic. I know that I'll never drink again - that part of my life is over. I'm not saying here that my approach is right for everyone, but it might work for some who are sick of failing in 12 step programs.

Hello Garro,

I have a favor to ask if you are interested in sharing.  Do you feel that your 3rd Step was a complete surrender, at least the initial 'decision'?  Was there anything at all that you thought of while doing the 4th Step that you decided not to include?  Same question about the 5th Step.

I have started doing AA work with Thais, and I am a Big Book Thumper, probably to a fault.  It says in the Big Book that if we don't do a thorough 5th Step, we might not overcome alcohol.  I have been sober 31 years, but I never had the struggle with a compulsion to drink, even when I resisted doing the Steps for several months, while becoming an emotional wreck (that is how it felt).  We use an alternative approach to reading the Big Book, we put together a 4th Step Workshop, preceded by Step 1 and Step 2 review and a working of Step 3, since my own experience calls for such an approach.  We have been presenting these workshops in Ban Pong, Ratchaburi and for (alcoholic) patients at some psyche hospitals in different areas of Thailand.

I could ramble on and on about feeling free, feeling happy that I finally got myself meditating (Step 11) after deciding to retire in Thailand about 4 years ago for that purpose.

Thanks for the time and any feedback.

Tom J.

In Topic: Which Meditation Retreat In/around Chiang Mai?

2012-04-06 20:54:19

View Postrockyysdt, on 2012-04-06 17:07:14, said:

View Posttjansen, on 2012-04-05 08:44:52, said:

I don't know if this thread is still active.  I have done one ten day course at Suan Mokh and three ten day courses at Goenka centers in Thailand.  I would like to know if anyone has done the Goenka course as well as some of the other ones mentioned.  Right now, I really like Goenka.  It is the one that inspired me to start a daily practice a couple of years ago.  Having only experienced two different approaches, I am curious how other courses would compare.

If anyone is interested I can share my experience and thoughts about the Goenka course.  I am still meditating after two or three years, by the way, after having failed for thirty years to get myself on the cushion while living in the US.

Tom

I'm curious regarding your leaning towards the Goenka retreat.

How would you compare it to Suan Mokkh?

What is it about Goenka that draws you to it?

Hello and thanks for the question.

After the retreat at Suan Mokh I came home with kind of an idea I would like to meditate, and I did do some meditation   For me, the retreat, although demanding from a schedule and physical comfort point of view, was fairly relaxed in procedures for meditating and in the daily Dhamma talks, which were done live with an English monk who, while entertaining, was not 'hard-core' enough with facts and techniques for my liking.
On the train home, I met a guy who had been to the same retreat as I, who told me about Goenka--that he had heard a lot of controversial comments about the strictness, the cult flavor of it, etc.  I decided I had to check into this.  So about six months later I attended the first of three ten-day Goenka courses.

One major plus to Goenka, again, for me, is that everything except answering quesions that arise, is presented by Goenka himself, via DVD and Audio CDs, in English.  Some people complained  of the lack of the personal touch.  I enjoyed it knowing I was getting the straight scoop from the original source (of this particular method).

The next thing that happened to get me on the cushion was Goenka's exhortation, at the end of the course, to meditate two hours per day for one year to give this method a fair trial.  I did so (having spent almost 30 years in AA knowing I wanted to meditate and knowing that meditation contained the only lasting answers for me, yet being unable to get myself to do it), and I am still meditating 4-5 hours per week, and missing it when I don't do it.  I readily notice the absence of peace of mind during the day when I skp a day or two, even with wonderful reasons.  Originally I had thoughts about going for enlightenment, but I have abandoned that notion for now, lacking the motivation to devote my major energy to meditation.

After posting this, I just remembered the comment of a middle-aged Thai man at one of my Goenka retreats, who said he had tried various courses, including Suan Mokh and Goenka.  He said he settled on Goenka because Suan Mokh meandered toward the goal, while Goenka was a rifle shot (demonstrated in a languageless pencil and paper sketch).

That is about it.  Let me know if there are other questions.  I will be glad to answer them as best I can.

Goenka's web site is www.dhamma.org.  They have centers in several countries, and all courses are financed only by voluntary contributions from students who have already attended a course.

Tom

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