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poanoi, on 2012-04-13 03:31:09, said:

not helpfull to the OP !!!! , lets keep these remarks away from the OP , no one here knowes what state he might be in , and stupid posts like that could take him over the edge ....

Zatoichi

You seem to be getting a little confused with history, not an uncommon thing in certain parts of America Now where do we start?

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Can we send that message over to Kim Jong Un  and the starving illiterate people of North Korea, and once that message has been sent lets define the difference between the kim jong dynasty and the North Korean people and Mugabe and the starving of zimbabwe? I think the Korean had a better grip on economics, thats about it.

Nations need to move forward through political process not by murdering the very people that have built you a nation.

Your rantings are indicative of the fact that you fail to truly understand the real nature of Africa, this by the way is a very common trait amongst African Americans. Tribal slaughter has been a way of life in Africa for a thousand years, something African Americans have either forgotten, choose to forget or have no idea about. The 'occupiers' in the case of Africa in most cases put a stop to that slaughter. Sure there were some bad asses about, non worse than King Leopold and the Belgian occupations, a nation that ruthlessly raped Africa for the resource rubber. The fact is though that Africa had little chance of progressing because the number 1 thing on the mind of any Chiefian  was to subdue and kill other tribes (essentially that remains the same). It was the African Chieftans and the Arabs that were responsible for the slave trade, not the Brits, Americans or Dutch. The Chieftans would refuse to trade Gold, Ivory and spices with the Europeans and Americans unless they also took boatloads of slaves.......fact! I once witnessed a very sad and harrowing documentary on 6 African Americans who were so outraged with the slave traders that they went back to their 'homeland' to drum up support for an international apology. One woman fell down to her knees crying when she finally realised that, as she said 'oh my God, we did it to ourselves, how could we have done such a thing'!. The truth is that Occupiers, despite their undoubted cruelty put a stop to the slaughter that African tribes dished out on each other and gave time for change.

Look at the state of Africa now. Kenya, Zimbabwe, South Africa, all over,  all returning to the tribal system, every bit as bad as apartheid. The Africans missed what the Europeans had had for 2000 years , something that had been given us under a rule of tyranny by the Romans...a system of Law and Order.

Mugabe has NEVER had the desire to get rid of the 'occupiers' and build his nation further. He has done the normal tribal Chieftan thing of taking everything for himself and killing all those who oppose. The killing of white African (yes that's just like Black American!) farmers has been nothing compared to the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of his own countrymen (but different tribes sadly for them).

By the way you didn't have your history stolen from you, history took a different path as it always does eventually. There would not be Mandingo, Ashanti and Ibo clubs in the US, and there would be very few 'Black Americans'. Don't you understand that out of all the suffering of the slave trade in Africans, Chinese and Indians it paved the way for a Global multicultural society, which would not exist today without previous historical events. Your anger is misdirected and futile and your support for some greater good in the actions of Mugabe is truly ill considered.

You seem to be saying that White African farmers have no right to call themselves African, yet they are 5th or 6th generation. If that is the case are you American? Are you willing to hand in your passport and denounce your nationality and return to your 'homeland'? No I guess not! You cannot make current generations responsible for the sins of their great great grandfathers.

kerryk, on 2012-03-19 11:31:30, said:

That's a mistake.

Moruya, on 2012-03-08 17:27:18, said:

Yes indeed. Pity he can't bring back Sgt-Major Suwichai Rodwimut. Oh, he can't do that, can he. Because he is dead.

My wife left Thailand on her American Passport so her depature care would be removed from the system. On return to Thailand she tryed to use her Thai Passport and she was denied entery. Reason was she did not use her Thai passport on departure from BKK. She was only given a 30 day tourist visa on her American Pasport.. I am here on a retirement visa and my wife was here on a Non O Visa. She did not have a reentry permit because post on Thaivisa.com have always said no problem coming back inti country on a Thai Passport. This has caused us all kinds of problems and expence $$$ and time to get things straight with Immigration. I am trying to say is do not go by post on thaivisa check with Thai Immigration on procedures on using two different passports some ones post may just get you problems you never thought you might of had. I realise others have done what my wife tryed to do but it only works some of the time. Be sure you have a reentry permit as a back up if things go wrong as they have for my wife.