Gippy

Yes, everything is better in the West, after all we have the Nanny State taking care of us from cradle to grave. Nanny knows best because politicians and bureaucrats are the smartest people in the world, much cleverer than us, and they know what is good for us. Our food is better because we have armies of tax payer funded bureaucrats running around checking restaurants and enforcing the standards they decided on and generally pushing up the cost of doing business, that cost passed onto the consumer of course. We have the FDA approving toxic pharmaceuticals whilst banning natural herbs but Nanny knows best, God knows we are too stupid to use a garden herb, better to ingest laboratory invented chemical chains. We used to have families that looked after each other and communities that provided support, now we have Nanny presiding over a collapsing culture, rising crime and youth unemployment. But never mind Nanny will pay the unemployed and blame crime on society. Perhaps a little more Nanny is what we really need? Sort of like solving the debt crisis with more debt, the problems the Nanny Sate has created will be cured by a bigger version?

Perhaps Thailand will eventually reach our level of Zombiehood but in the meantime, our brethren here pining for Nanny's teat actually believe Thailand could enforce those kind of draconian food standards? Thailand for whatever its faults is still a much freer place to live than the totalitarian West, personally I like that. I read somewhere a study done by psychologists suggest that we as humans need a certain amount of danger in our lives for natural development and the ability to deal with stress situations, the Nanny State is trying to remove that, and there will be yet more social cost and cultural disintegration. Just some food for thought.

moe666, on 2012-04-28 08:13:20, said:

Some of Us Harley riders do tend to put a lot of miles on their bikes. Even when I lived in cold snowy Illinois. Sounds to me like a tale to tell other Harley Haters. Us harley riders know better. 1996 Fatboy here in Thailandand I put some miles on it here too. It never ceases to amaze me as to how people want to put other bikes down. I feel right on A Harley but I do not have to talk trash about a guy who rides a Honda or any other brand for that matter. I figure to each his own and would ride with any biker no matter what he rides. Happy riding all and safely please! Peace!

California WOW Fitness Bankrupt Sued By Bangkok Bank


PATTAYA: -- Bangkok Bank Plc has sued Thailand's biggest fitness operator: California WOW Xperience Plc (CAWOW).

Bangkok Bank, the creditor, filed a lawsuit after the company was unable to service debts totalling 75.87 million THB (debt of 71.90 million THB and default interest of 3.97 million THB).
The report said CAWOW, founded by Mr. Eric Levine, “is continuing to make progress on the existing rehabilitation plan”.

Full story: http://www.pattayada...y-bangkok-bank/

--PATTAYA DAILY NEWS 2012-04-27

Half or more of the guys marry/date straight up whores and then lament the day these types of things happen to them.

Sorry for the OP.  Not singling him out at all as this kind of thing can happen to anyone.  But all of you guys who are in the bargirl wife camp, please don't offer any advice or pontificate on the issues of marriage in Thailand as your judgement has already been suspect.

I've been married to a Thai woman for quite many years with absolutely none of the crazy issues you bargirl marrying guys whine about.  Most all my expat friends married to Thais have the same story as me.

Sure anyone can be shot and killed, but if you sell drugs, your chances increase substantially.

OP, best of luck to you.  I hope some of the guys on the board who have some common sense or actually relationship skill will respond.  If I were you, I would stay away from this board and seek consul from close friends and family.

Take care

I don't know how wise it is to tell me story, but here we go ..........
Was a farmer in Oxfordshire, working the family farm all my life, hard work and not much reward. Wife decided the life was too hard, so she divorced me, was awarded the family farm by the divorce judge (300 years down the drain), then promptly sold it. I was left living in a farm workers caravan on a pals farm aged 50+, no future for me. Depression set in and my pal decided to lift my spirits with a holiday in Pattaya.
Off we went, he was out doing the Pattaya thing every night, I sat in a bar and just chatted to the girls (some of them spoke really good English). Anyway, after a while I was getting quite friendly with a girl (not as a customer, too traumatized by the divorce and loss of my farm for sex with anyone). This girl finds out I was a farmer in the UK (arable mostly corn and wheat) and says her older sister has a farm up north and was recently widowed. Farm going to rack and ruin, other guys in the village asking for 'favours' in return for helping her on the farm, etc.
So entirely on impulse, we both get on a coach to visit the sister, 25 rai farm the previously husband grew corn, husband (previous farm owner) was earning extra cash building a bridge, fell off the scaffolding and died.  The older sister (late 20s) needed a new husband to run the farm, a bit of cash to repay a debt on the farm and someone for company. She spoke no English, I spoke no Thai, everything arranged/interpreted by the bar girl sister. A week later we were sharing a bed, a few weeks later we were married, now we share a life and family.
I now have new children, a new wife (half the age and one third the weight of my former UK wife), and a new family farm (well it can never be my farm, but it can be my childrens family farm)

Working a farm in Thailand is so much less hard work than working a farm in the UK, no regulations or forms to fill out, the weather is so much nicer, and the workload is so much less. Of course almost all the work is done by hand, but I sort of like that.

Four years on
I speak bad Thai, she speaks good English.
Farm is producing great corn again (harvest in the next 2-3 weeks)
Last year the headman assigned us 50 rai of forest to develop, after the monsoon I will have to make a start

Thailand is a great country, with great opportunities for an aging western man.

karlos, on 2012-01-05 21:39:16, said:

My ex-wife used to bitch and moan about how I loved my bikes more than her...

Ditched the harpy and replaced her with a new bike

I fail to see how this is a problem.

Many bars do not let them in either, because we don't want to drink with them.

I said to a bargirl once, 'Why do you keep the blacks out?' and she said 'Because if Farang see African man, he not come in'.
I said 'Yep, you're right'.

All they do is try and sell me cocaine, and try to 'look after me' on Sukhumvit. It gets quite tiring.