It depends on if you are talking about the official lottery or one of the none official (illegal) offshoots.
What I can say (based upon personal experience) is that the numbers for the latter are based upon those of the former and my TGF won more than 500,000 THB, having been told which numbers to buy.
Make of that what you will!
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In Topic: Who Can Explain,The Thai Lottery System?
2012-04-23 00:45:49
In Topic: Why Does Toasted Sandwich Taste So dam_n Great
2012-04-21 20:26:14
I will admit that 7/11 can provide something, reasonably, tasty to fill a gap.
However, that is where any praise, for their product ends.
More often than not:
1) THe "cheese" has no taste.
2) The "toast" is (typical) Thai toast - Anything more than a white colour is, considered to be burnt!!
7/11, to me, are a bit like Mcdonalds, KFC etc., without the expense.
They provide edible food at sensible prices, for the quallity they deliver.
No more, no less!
However, that is where any praise, for their product ends.
More often than not:
1) THe "cheese" has no taste.
2) The "toast" is (typical) Thai toast - Anything more than a white colour is, considered to be burnt!!
7/11, to me, are a bit like Mcdonalds, KFC etc., without the expense.
They provide edible food at sensible prices, for the quallity they deliver.
No more, no less!
In Topic: Starting A Home Owners Association (Limited Company)
2012-04-21 19:13:12
Can I, firstly, say that I am, extremely, grateful to everyone who has taken the time to respond to my thread and try to help me out - Because help me out you have!
Some people posted, some posted and invited a p.m. with others contacting me (directly) via the latter route, without posting.
To cut to the chase, I now understand (I think) so much more about this subject than I believed possible.
Examples would be as follows - I'm, deliberately, not attributing names because some of the information was received via p.m. and I will respect that confidence
1) I now possess the "Establishing a Housing Development Guide" - Thai Government Issue (In English).
From that I can see that the normal "ferang" way (establish company/compose, then submit, Articles etc) is not the way it works here and that the Articles (under whatever name) must form part of the submission.
2) I now possess a copy of the "Specimen Rules and Regs - English Translation (So not Thai Government issue) for a "Juristic Entity".
3) I have been provided with the name of a specialist Thai Land Law Lawyer, who would appear to not be frightened of reputations and believes that Thai Law is paramount and must be safeguarded against individual threats.
4) I can now understand the point made by "Langsuan Man", which I did not before, but think that it is covered in the "Establishing a Housing Development Guide" - at least I hope it is!
6) GentlemanJim's point was noted and I (mistakenly) thought that we did not need to get to that stage until the company had been agreed upon.
Having read the "guide" it would appear that Thai Law requires action in advance, (appointment of agent etc) which I would never have guessed.
So, at this stage, I'm now combing the "guide", in particular, before I attempt to speak to the recommended lawyer, early next week, so that I can have, specific, questions prepared.
I'm just hoping that it does not turn out that he only speaks Thai - Joke (sort of)!
In the interim, there is one big question that I would, very much like to know the answer to.
Can anyone, please, tell me what the difference is (in Thai terms) between an HOA and a Juristic Entity?
Having read both documents, the first refers to a "Board of Directors" (implying Limited Company status) and the latter to a "Committee", which would suggest something, totally, different!
I'm hoping to understand the answer to that before I speak to the lawyer - so I don't appear, totally, braindead!
Once again,
Many, many thanks to those who have, already, enlightened me and (in advance) to those that will continue to do so!
Finally, can I thank "Craig3365" & "Metisdead".
Without their cooperation this thread would have been confined to RE - Many thanks again!
Some people posted, some posted and invited a p.m. with others contacting me (directly) via the latter route, without posting.
To cut to the chase, I now understand (I think) so much more about this subject than I believed possible.
Examples would be as follows - I'm, deliberately, not attributing names because some of the information was received via p.m. and I will respect that confidence
1) I now possess the "Establishing a Housing Development Guide" - Thai Government Issue (In English).
From that I can see that the normal "ferang" way (establish company/compose, then submit, Articles etc) is not the way it works here and that the Articles (under whatever name) must form part of the submission.
2) I now possess a copy of the "Specimen Rules and Regs - English Translation (So not Thai Government issue) for a "Juristic Entity".
3) I have been provided with the name of a specialist Thai Land Law Lawyer, who would appear to not be frightened of reputations and believes that Thai Law is paramount and must be safeguarded against individual threats.
4) I can now understand the point made by "Langsuan Man", which I did not before, but think that it is covered in the "Establishing a Housing Development Guide" - at least I hope it is!
6) GentlemanJim's point was noted and I (mistakenly) thought that we did not need to get to that stage until the company had been agreed upon.
Having read the "guide" it would appear that Thai Law requires action in advance, (appointment of agent etc) which I would never have guessed.
So, at this stage, I'm now combing the "guide", in particular, before I attempt to speak to the recommended lawyer, early next week, so that I can have, specific, questions prepared.
I'm just hoping that it does not turn out that he only speaks Thai - Joke (sort of)!
In the interim, there is one big question that I would, very much like to know the answer to.
Can anyone, please, tell me what the difference is (in Thai terms) between an HOA and a Juristic Entity?
Having read both documents, the first refers to a "Board of Directors" (implying Limited Company status) and the latter to a "Committee", which would suggest something, totally, different!
I'm hoping to understand the answer to that before I speak to the lawyer - so I don't appear, totally, braindead!
Once again,
Many, many thanks to those who have, already, enlightened me and (in advance) to those that will continue to do so!
Finally, can I thank "Craig3365" & "Metisdead".
Without their cooperation this thread would have been confined to RE - Many thanks again!
In Topic: Starting A Home Owners Association (Limited Company)
2012-04-19 16:50:49
craigt3365, on 2012-04-19 07:44:53, said:
OP: I think you've made a big mistake posting in General rather than in the RE forum. Many of our RE experts never visit the general forum. Here, you'll get plenty of off topic comments and other BS, which I'll try to weed out, but your best bet is the RE forum. Even if you have to wait for replies. You'll have less, but they'll be of a higher quality. Plus, don't forget it's Songkran. Many are out on vacation. Just give it some time and be patient.
NanLaew aside. He is quite knowledgeable on this subject but I do believe also watches the RE forum. Right?
Your call.
NanLaew aside. He is quite knowledgeable on this subject but I do believe also watches the RE forum. Right?
Your call.
Thanks for that.
Metisdead has been kind enough to leave my post in position, on RE, whilst stating that it is now closed but can be found on General topics.
Seems like the best of both worlds!
In Topic: Starting A Home Owners Association (Limited Company)
2012-04-19 13:57:17
topt, on 2012-04-19 12:11:53, said:
I don't know how big your development is but as Nan Laew suggests you may have an issue getting the required interest from your fellow owners - both Thai and foreign. This has been a major issue in the moo bahn I live in where at the last AGM only about 8 house owners out of say 40 turned up. Trying to get people to agree on actions that were needed was like walking through quicksand - and this was on items that everyone had a vested interest in like the level and cost of security.
I had thought that AGMs needed to be at least every 12 months but this last one was 18 months ago. The foreign Chairman appointed at that time then resigned but no one was informed (not even the committee). Salary for the secretary (prbably works about 2 hours per week) went up 30% this year and she works for the original developer who still seems to be running things. When I queried this she said "so why don't you pay a company to take over then..."
The biggest problem is the complete lack of interest from nearly all the owners to make changes. IMHO you will need a strong Chairperson and committee (or enough to form a quorum) and, as NL says, legally binding articles that every houseowner signs up to, otherwise you are heading for a world of frustration.
I had thought that AGMs needed to be at least every 12 months but this last one was 18 months ago. The foreign Chairman appointed at that time then resigned but no one was informed (not even the committee). Salary for the secretary (prbably works about 2 hours per week) went up 30% this year and she works for the original developer who still seems to be running things. When I queried this she said "so why don't you pay a company to take over then..."
The biggest problem is the complete lack of interest from nearly all the owners to make changes. IMHO you will need a strong Chairperson and committee (or enough to form a quorum) and, as NL says, legally binding articles that every houseowner signs up to, otherwise you are heading for a world of frustration.
Our development comprises of 58 houses, in a gated community which, currently, has its' own security.
So far, we've managed to create a reasonable level of interest with meetings, typically, being attended by more than 50% of owners.
What I'm hoping for is that we can agree to establish the company and then have a strong set of articles approved, thus giving the future board the power to enforce any rules and regulations that they draw up.
Collecting the cash I would not see as a major problem, assuming that these give the board the same authority that the electricity & water companies enjoy.
If you don't pay them they just withdraw your right to use their infrastructure!
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