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alex_aka_P, on 2010-09-21 15:55:18, said:

If you're concerned about your tax money you should be the death penalties biggest opponent. Much more expensive than life imprisonment.

If you're concerned about justice, then there's no way you can have a death penalty as death is final. How many innocents have died? How many will die? How many are acceptable? One? One innocent death by the hand of the state is not acceptable to me.

Mainly though it's about setting an example. If the state says that killing is an acceptable way of solving problems then more killings will happen. Killing is then OK even when not in self defense. Killing is OK when the other has done a terrible thing himself. Or when you think that he did. How you define terrible things is pretty subjective, and it's a slippery slope from there. I am agnostic but I am with Jesus when he said: Thou shalt not kill.

That leaves revenge. Suit yourself there, but know that you're in league with the jihadists of the world.

Mind you I am not for premature release, where there's then cases where killers get out and kill again. That's stupid, and a problem in the justice system. Has nothing to do with the death penalty though. It's possible to lock the most dangerous up for life (and cheaper than the death penalty, that warrants repeating).

I am gad the caught the guy.

The simple fact is some minds are not wired correctly.
Some individuals can not process right and wrong,
as commonly understood by most all human beings.
Only their personal benefit vs personal loss ratio.

There are some who abide by the social contracts we live within,
for periods, but at some point slip the cord, and leave accepted morality behind.

Almost invariably that is a rubicon crossed and they do NOT go back,
to observing normality. Sometimes fear of getting caught holds their baser instincts, or deeper desires in check for a time, but typically the check doesn't hold indefinitely.

Some one like this child killer, dismember-er has crossed way past a line of civil conduct, and moral compunction. Some do it because of panicked fear, but more often from calculation towards their percivied personal safety, Or from some warped desire they have manifested.

Bottom line is some just can not ever again function in society without putting innocents at risk of horrendous pain, torture and death. If this were not true humans in all nations would not have prisons, jails and asylums for the criminally insane.

If we abrogate the death penalty, we need it replaced with extra stern measures, commonly known, such as the scenario I described above, so there is SOME component of punishment to hold those, that maybe borderline in check. That the threat of long term misery to themselves, will be enough to limit, their actions, for the good of the majority. Even if their personal morality sees it as irrelevant.

A comfortable but restricted life time in jail can be seen as a non-punishment for the deranged mind. Limiting but not punishment. Let the punishment fit the crime. For what this depraved deviant did, he does not deserve a comfortable ride.

SamritT, on 2010-09-17 09:29:31, said:

Learn to listen to criticism. They say this because they love our country and not that they hate it. They care for it as much as we do. That's why they show concern. We listen and try to correct our mistakes. Telling them to go home isn't the way to argue or defend your point. We Thais should start questioning our rediculous laws rather than nod our heads and say "This is the Thai way".  Too much brainwashing in our educational system makes us look like robots. Much more, they probably pay income tax as compared to 80% of our workforce who are exemp from paying taxes because they earn less than 20K a month.

We should look to the outside world and see what we are doing wrong. That's the only way we can truly move forward.

THIS IS THAILAND. Don't like, then go home.

kurnell, on 2010-09-14 20:57:21, said:

"The released-on-bail killer wife has a ‘Freedom Insurance’, in Thai pronounced Prakan Issaraparp, which covers the bail"

SOURCE: http://scandasia.com...se&news_id=7291

slipperx, on 2010-09-08 22:13:33, said:

Dude your story changes as you go along in the beginning it was "I moved to Phuket and married a lovely girl. I didn't marry formally with papers because if you are formally married and the woman wishes to buy a property then you have to sign a document saying you as a foreigner have no rights over the property and basically have given her the money. now it is : "We didn't marry formally because it is easier to buy land for her that way (the Thai laws being discriminatory in that regard against women)"  ...... Ok so we have in the beginning your worried about yourself , then a few posts later you all worried about not being married so it's easier to buy her land LOL  ...... .... you see your nonsense is hard to contain the longer you go on. Now of course the first part is factually incorrect and the second part being nonsense as well ...it's not against women it's against farang men or women marring Thai's and buying land. You can try and sell your nonsense that your "company" was real and buying and selling land to someone else because your story say's different.

   Actually dude it's not common at all for 2 people living as man and wife for one to own the land and one to own the lease ! lol If you think it's common for men to lease their house from the wife your mistaken ,,,,,, You see your main problem is you fail to recognize that what might be normal for 2 unrelated people to do is not normal or perhaps legal for 2 others to do. ..................... " it wasn't her land"       "She still owned the land"   "  The property bought was registered in her name"  .......... ROFL      your story is nonsense you just don't realize how obvious the nonsense is.  here we go again .... Quite right I should have said a properly set up Thai company in which I invested money via a loan to the company, .....  no you were telling the truth the first time :   During this period I purchased two sizeable pieces of land worth about 30 million baht between them". ......... once again caught in nonsense the story changes .......

   The most nonsensical part of the story is that another wealthy internet chat room dude who has managed to be in the top 1% of 50 year old people financially worldwide has has made the most basic error of all in investing of not diversifying ..........    Sorry but it's just not believable that ANYONE would risk it all in land in Thailand let alone a 52 year old who would be in the top 1 % ..... what your trying to sell .... and not so uncommon on the net is ...... your a really wealthy and smart guy who might lose everything and what should I do (as if a smart and wealthy guy would ask a chat room  lol )  and my story is all about being taken advantage of ...... yeah that makes sense another wealthy republican who got screwed by a 3rd world democrat !      Your a dope and only fooling other dopes dude                 ......(" So what would you do in this situation bearing in mind this concerns about all the money I have") .....

where are these kids getting hold of guns? FFS!

[sorry if that makes me seem terribly old and out of touch... ]

Let the authorities investigate. Their reports should be impartial. Hopefully no one starts taking the opportunity to stir up another blame game. Hope there was a security camera covering the area of the blast.