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#3913871 Thai Democrats Did Not Act With Corrupt Intent : EC Adviser

Posted random on 2010-09-28 13:35:50

View Postwhybother, on 2010-09-28 11:37:45, said:

View Postrandom, on 2010-09-28 10:02:23, said:

The crime has been committed and I guess ignorance is no defence, there is also the other matter regarding the donation to deal with.
What is the crime that has been committed?  And who was it committed by?



Is breaching election law a crime? I guess it is and that is why it is in court, there is no dispute over the size of the placards therefore a crime has been committed by the democrat party, they allowed placards that were not in line with election laws in Thailand.

Or is it a breach of election regulations and not a law?

You seem to have all the answers so maybe you can enlighten us all with your wisdom, if you do know you could have not wasted your post trying to belittle and told us what you know, or don't you know yourself?

Either way the dems will be disbanded if we are lucky and the current mob will be out on their ear where they belong.


#3913261 Thai Democrats Did Not Act With Corrupt Intent : EC Adviser

Posted random on 2010-09-28 10:02:23

The crime has been committed and I guess ignorance is no defence, there is also the other matter regarding the donation to deal with.


#3913775 Bangkok’s CentralWorld Reopens Today

Posted bikersiam on 2010-09-28 12:54:56

View PostXonax, on 2010-09-28 12:04:32, said:

View PostPib, on 2010-09-28 11:49:09, said:

Just amazing they've got so much rebuilt/reopen already.  In a western country the company would still be trying to get a construction/rebuild permit, tied up in court over claims/insurance, etc.


The now re-opened area was mainly damaged by smoke and basically just needed some cleaning and painting. The re-building of the demolished part (Zen) has not yet even started.  It´s probably cheaper just to get back in business asap, than to wait for all insurance claims to be paid.

Welcome back Central World!  I will definitely go there and spend my money, in order to show my support to the affected shops and my disgust for the red shirt movement!

please don't talk bad about the red's as they are part of the REAL elected Thai gov. thank you


#3913717 Bangkok’s CentralWorld Reopens Today

Posted asiawatcher on 2010-09-28 12:32:35

I can only say well done and as the police took down all the ID cards and numbers of the departing bus reds, perhaps the bill should be now issued, split evenly amongst all unless of course they would like to point out who was actually responsible.  But a slap in the face for the reds an will make a more determined vote against them and their party at the next election.  They are a blot on Thai sensibilities.


#3913564 Bangkok’s CentralWorld Reopens Today

Posted Huey on 2010-09-28 11:39:34

Awesome! scum bag, hating red shirts can't hold Bangkok down! Sweet Ice skating :D


#3903372 Would You Like The Option To Turn Off The Reputation Feature For You?

Posted Ulysses G. on 2010-09-24 07:05:18

Me think thou doth protest too much.
You keep whining about one guy giving you a few reds while your greenie count is climbing like crazy. There is no way that you are going to turn off your reputation after this prank - all in all, a pretty good scam. :lol:


#3903093 Would You Like The Option To Turn Off The Reputation Feature For You?

Posted bkkmick on 2010-09-24 00:37:59

Where's the option to turn off the Jingthing?


#3899915 Resurgence Of Thai Red Shirts Causes New Concerns

Posted jayboy on 2010-09-22 17:02:46

View Postrixalex, on 2010-09-22 16:39:16, said:

View Postjayboy, on 2010-09-22 13:28:32, said:

If you read what I have already written the answer to your question is there, albeit somewhat obliquely for the usual reasons.

Let's just say that a major event is likely to be exploited by the elite, whether through a state of emergency, another coup....who can tell? Anything but a fair choice by the Thai people.
After the last coup many were predicting that the military would find excuses to cling on to power way beyond the elections that they timetabled - that there would be convenient reasons cropping up for delays - these same people also predicted that if and when elections did finally come, should Thaksin's proxy party manage to get into power, that they would never make it into office because the "amart" would not allow it.

Elections were however delivered on schedule and Thaksin's PPP party did get into office. The fact that they didn't manage to stay in office very long doesn't change those two facts. You might say it undermines them, and you might be right, but of course that depends on which version of events you choose to believe in regards the respective downfalls of Samak and Somchai.

I don't think the military really care about the means particularly as the military junta after the coup was so incompetent, lethargic and finally detested.The end of course is the military budget which has increased hugely with all the corruption and venality that implies.In Abhisit they have found a patsy - whether willing or not isn't clear, so all things being equal it doesn't seem logical for these old crooks and their feudal hangers on to launch another coup.But of course things are never equal and events have a way of disturbing the best laid plans.In addition there is a brutish quality to their thinking which combined with a certain stupidity and lack of any sense of enlightened self interest makes their reactions very unpredictable.


#3899383 Resurgence Of Thai Red Shirts Causes New Concerns

Posted GarryP on 2010-09-22 13:31:35

View Postrixalex, on 2010-09-22 13:00:19, said:

View Postjayboy, on 2010-09-22 11:17:17, said:

However the delay I was alluding to was more in the ballpark of 2013 or even 2014.
Hypothesize for me, if you will, exactly how the Abhisit government - or regime as you prefer - will manage to delay their term in office beyond the length of what the constitution allows.

Out come the boys in green and install an interim gov't which is headed by someone they like. He is giving them the money they want to buy their toys you know. Perhaps, payback for past backing but with the chance of more to come, who knows.

As long as the elite feel threatened (including the so called leaders of the reds), they will do what they can to keep the masses underfoot. They are not going to share the pot with every Somchai, Therdsak and Siripong are they. The general public will be left with the dregs as usual no matter who is in power until something is done about corruption.


#3899379 Resurgence Of Thai Red Shirts Causes New Concerns

Posted jayboy on 2010-09-22 13:28:32

View Postrixalex, on 2010-09-22 13:00:19, said:

View Postjayboy, on 2010-09-22 11:17:17, said:

However the delay I was alluding to was more in the ballpark of 2013 or even 2014.
Hypothesize for me, if you will, exactly how the Abhisit government - or regime as you prefer - will manage to delay their term in office beyond the length of what the constitution allows.

If you read what I have already written the answer to your question is there, albeit somewhat obliquely for the usual reasons.

Let's just say that a major event is likely to be exploited by the elite, whether through a state of emergency, another coup....who can tell? Anything but a fair choice by the Thai people.


#3899082 Resurgence Of Thai Red Shirts Causes New Concerns

Posted jayboy on 2010-09-22 11:17:17

View PostBuchholz, on 2010-09-22 10:50:23, said:

View Postjayboy, on 2010-09-22 09:55:21, said:

In any event we shall see how the land lies whenever the next general election takes place.Oops quite forgot, it's not going to take place any time soon - mainly of course because

it's not scheduled to be held until next year.

I suppose you mean it doesn't have to be held under the rules until November/December 2011 (i.e ignoring the powerful moral case for an earlier legitimisation of the Abhisit regime).

However the delay I was alluding to was more in the ballpark of 2013 or even 2014.I think we can assume there will be endless delays and prevarication (no prizes for guessing the most likely excuse) because of the likely outcome of any popular vote (assuming, and that's a very big "if", the election is held fairly without attempts to cheat by the military, politicised courts, or feudalists).Anyway it may all take a fairly long time but the eventual outcome is assured.Let's hope there's a modicum of enlightened self interest on the part of the amart as it inevitably loses power and resources.The alternative could be appalling.


#3898843 Resurgence Of Thai Red Shirts Causes New Concerns

Posted jayboy on 2010-09-22 09:55:21

View Postyoshiwara, on 2010-09-22 02:17:46, said:

View Postjayboy, on 2010-09-21 21:55:45, said:

View Postyoshiwara, on 2010-09-21 19:33:43, said:

View PostOzMick, on 2010-09-21 18:33:17, said:

More than one poster has referred to the Reds now being a democracy movement, with Thaksin no longer being an issue. As they seem to vote for PTP, please explain the following quote from today's news:

"Chalerm to seek  Thaksin's approval on campaign platforms

Pheu Thai MP Chalerm Yoobamrung on Tuesday said he would soon meet with  ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra to seek his approval for five campaign  platforms at the next poll.

"Should Thaksin travel to the region, I will take a trip to meet and get  his blessing for the Pheu Thai policies," he said.

There is a set routine from the forum Thaksin apologists.
The first is to be careful not to mention him when propagating the red line.
The second is to say that the red movement has gone beyond Thaksin
and the third when backs are against the wall to defend Thakin and here is the joke, 'against the elites'.
Some of them really have deluded themselves that Thaksin is merely the fairy godmother and not...
the Godfather.

Let me try and get this straight.You are saying that all the red propaganda from - yawn - "Thaksin apologists" is off target, and that it's really only about Thaksin.I think you have made this point in one form or another several hundred times, so enough already.It's permissible on this forum to hold your reactionary and ignorant views but really it's unforgivable to be such a relentless bore.

The reactionary and ignorant views come consistently from the red cheerleaders who even when argued with relentlessly parrot the same old stuff.
If corrections have to be re-stated then so be it.
The core reactionary position is Thaksin's.
Nothing will be allowed to upset the regional class alliance under the firm grip of the northern landowners in Thakin's pocket.
All the wittering from the pale pink reds about class war cannot disguise this fact.
At least the rules of the game have changed now that Thaksin has lost the initiative and his armed rabble have been kicked off the streets.
You may not recognise this but the gremlin of Montenegro at least does.

Glad you have at last shown a sense of humour with this over the top parody of your last (several hundred) posts.

In any event we shall see how the land lies whenever the next general election takes place.Oops quite forgot, it's not going to take place any time soon - mainly of course because the elite are shitting in their pants terrified of the outcome.Never mind I'm sure there are (and will be, cough cough) lots of opportunities to delay in the national interest for a few years.That will give time to install the Burmese model.


#3898165 Resurgence Of Thai Red Shirts Causes New Concerns

Posted philw on 2010-09-21 22:10:48

View Postjayboy, on 2010-09-21 21:55:45, said:

View Postyoshiwara, on 2010-09-21 19:33:43, said:

View PostOzMick, on 2010-09-21 18:33:17, said:

More than one poster has referred to the Reds now being a democracy movement, with Thaksin no longer being an issue. As they seem to vote for PTP, please explain the following quote from today's news:

"Chalerm to seek  Thaksin's approval on campaign platforms

Pheu Thai MP Chalerm Yoobamrung on Tuesday said he would soon meet with  ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra to seek his approval for five campaign  platforms at the next poll.

"Should Thaksin travel to the region, I will take a trip to meet and get  his blessing for the Pheu Thai policies," he said.

There is a set routine from the forum Thaksin apologists.
The first is to be careful not to mention him when propagating the red line.
The second is to say that the red movement has gone beyond Thaksin
and the third when backs are against the wall to defend Thakin and here is the joke, 'against the elites'.
Some of them really have deluded themselves that Thaksin is merely the fairy godmother and not...
the Godfather.

Let me try and get this straight.You are saying that all the red propaganda from - yawn - "Thaksin apologists" is off target, and that it's really only about Thaksin.I think you have made this point in one form or another several hundred times, so enough already.It's permissible on this forum to hold your reactionary and ignorant views but really it's unforgivable to be such a relentless bore.

Thailand is about to change and we should see that.

The "relentless bores"  find that impossible to accept hence the propagation of the same old story.
Fact is the Thai dynamic is about to change.
When and how is the worry.


#3898131 Resurgence Of Thai Red Shirts Causes New Concerns

Posted jayboy on 2010-09-21 21:55:45

View Postyoshiwara, on 2010-09-21 19:33:43, said:

View PostOzMick, on 2010-09-21 18:33:17, said:

More than one poster has referred to the Reds now being a democracy movement, with Thaksin no longer being an issue. As they seem to vote for PTP, please explain the following quote from today's news:

"Chalerm to seek  Thaksin's approval on campaign platforms

Pheu Thai MP Chalerm Yoobamrung on Tuesday said he would soon meet with  ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra to seek his approval for five campaign  platforms at the next poll.

"Should Thaksin travel to the region, I will take a trip to meet and get  his blessing for the Pheu Thai policies," he said.

There is a set routine from the forum Thaksin apologists.
The first is to be careful not to mention him when propagating the red line.
The second is to say that the red movement has gone beyond Thaksin
and the third when backs are against the wall to defend Thakin and here is the joke, 'against the elites'.
Some of them really have deluded themselves that Thaksin is merely the fairy godmother and not...
the Godfather.

Let me try and get this straight.You are saying that all the red propaganda from - yawn - "Thaksin apologists" is off target, and that it's really only about Thaksin.I think you have made this point in one form or another several hundred times, so enough already.It's permissible on this forum to hold your reactionary and ignorant views but really it's unforgivable to be such a relentless bore.


#3898094 Resurgence Of Thai Red Shirts Causes New Concerns

Posted truethailand on 2010-09-21 21:36:23

View PostBigBikeBKK, on 2010-09-21 09:58:40, said:

View PostSamritT, on 2010-09-21 09:18:51, said:

The decline in Red-shirt supporter is unbelievable. From a million down to 5,000. At this rate, the number of Red-shirt supports will go negatives by year end.

Never even close to 1 million. Why are they allowed to rally in Bangkok under the SOE? They should all be locked up for breaking the law (again). And before you reds call me a yellow let me state my belief that the yellows should ALSO be locked up when they break the law :jap:  (then again, peacefully taking over an airport and going on a murderous rampage in the nation's capitol probably call for different penalties under the law... :whistling: )

Total difference between the two rallies. The reds took on the Amata(old elite) who are protected by the army so in the end they got shot , and the yellows rally was peaceful because it was supported by the Amata and protected by army personnel, in plain clothes with hand guns. Police could not move the yellow shirts because that meant taking on the army (bigger guns than the police), Police did not want to move the red shirts because of many things such as many have ties to the regions the red shirts come from and moving them by force was not an option because they would have to live with people after the dust settled.
So long in Thailand so little knowledge of whats happening her. I am not 100% sure but taking over an airport accounts to terrorism while shooting your own people to retain power appears like genocide




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