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In Topic: Warning! Fake Bt1,000 And Bt100 Banknotes Circulating In Thailand

2012-05-24 12:00:31

View PostANTIRACIST, on 2012-05-24 11:19:04, said:

Has they arrested the suspect?
Yes but he came up with a 5,000 baht bribe and walked.

In Topic: Ban On Vitamins.

2012-05-23 08:41:23

View Postfemi fan, on 2012-05-22 16:46:57, said:

View PostLobo4819, on 2012-05-20 09:56:33, said:

There is also a movement in the FDA (Food & Drug Administration) in the States to get everything that isn't already, under their control.  Natural foods, raw milk, vitamins and supplements.  This is hand in hand with the effort there to make organic farming illegal.  Perhaps Thailand by imitation or through coercion is trying to be like them.  Thank you Monsanto.

I strongly suspect that thailand have been made to pass this new law by US government. It follows on from a few years back when the government here put lemongrass, chilli and one or two other similar foods onto the dangerous substances list, meanwhile taking off a clear toxin. The US is ostensibly run by the corporations, including monsanto as you refer to. Trouble is, as can be seen with the absurd rules about liquids and gels when flying, the US government - run by US corporations - then tells other governments what to do. This is slowly permeating its way around the world.

Incidentally, all this regulation and banning of supplements vitamins and herbs and stuff can be sourced back to the Codex Alimentarius charter. I'm afraid that US and some european corporations are intent on regulating the whole food industry, all over the world. When we hear of problems in countries like thailand we know that thus far they're being rather successful at continuing to spread their evil toxic produce everywhere.

And when posters talk about thai food being grown with banned chemicals, they might like to remind themselves that yes, they were banned in the US, but only after big pharma had sold millions of tonnes of them onto the US market. But when finally these poisons are banned there, what happens? Why, they sell these killing chemicals onto third world and developing countries. Like thailand.

It's bad enough that these companies can get away with poisoning so much of our produce, but through Codex Alimentarius and the power of the US government, they are also actively trying to shut down alternative sources of food, grown organically and without gm shit in them. And if vitamins and herbs and food supplements will make people healthy, then they too need to be regulated and often simply made unavailable.

The US government along with US corporations (and remember the revolving doors of office going on there) are a very very nasty bunch of people who are tampering with the very source of our existence.

View Postfemi fan, on 2012-05-22 16:46:57, said:


femi Fan, you have hit every nail you aimed at square on the head. Especially with your connection to Codex Alimentarius. If you made any mistakes it was to underplay your points, but books could be written on these subjects.
Just because I pointed out the almost unbridled use of dangerous chemicals in this country, don't think for a minute I didn't know how they got here or who profited.
I think if you really like a supplement, keep a good supply on hand. It is probably going to keep getting harder to have them shipped here.

In Topic: Ban On Vitamins.

2012-05-21 11:33:54

Stubby wrote:  "I've just posted what I believe, on a public forum that encourages interaction.

Good luck, and good health to you Posted Image

Stubby "
Thank you for your civil reply and I apologize for starting mine on a somewhat inflammatory note. Obviously we could go back and forth for days on this topic as new things are discovered daily. However I am a little surprised the mods are not on us for getting off topic. If you want to start a topic about this I will engage, I'm sure we can both learn something.

In Topic: Ban On Vitamins.

2012-05-21 10:37:07

View PostTongueThaied, on 2012-05-21 10:26:36, said:

Never, ever, import qanything through FedEd, UPS or DHL.  Nothing but trouble EVERYTIME, and higher taxes, too.  Use the post office.  Like the guy above said, call it a gift.
I have had 1 package that went through the postal service levied a tax. It was only 5%, and it was not labeled as a gift. I do have someone repackage them and send them from a residential address though. It may very well be we are in for more import duties in the future.

In Topic: Ban On Vitamins.

2012-05-21 09:51:08

View PostStubby, on 2012-05-20 23:25:10, said:

It's almost impossible to know if the medication purchased in the industrialised world is the real deal nowadays with so much high-tech counterfeiting going on, so why anyone would trust any pill, potion, or wonder capsule from the internet is beyond belief, it really is!!!

And anyway, isn't it now common knowledge that so called multivitamins are nothing more than expensive urine?  If you're lucky, very lucky, your body will absorb 15% from a vitamin supplement.

No, much better to get these things naturally through proper diet.

Stubby
Have you ever seen one of those replies to a forum, where the person starts out by saying: "I'm really not an expert on this and don't know much about this topic, but..."? Might have been a good place for you to start.
Don't get me wrong, This is not a personal attack. It's just that you are wrong on so many points. Your beliefs are not atypical, But ponder a few points...

Just what is that proper diet?
Fruits and vegetables picked green in order to spend the next 2 weeks travelling around the world? Looking almost as perfect as a model in a magazine, and with just as much substance. Fruits and vegetables often develop many of their nutrients in the last days on the vine or tree as they ripen. And they seldom look perfect.
What about the depleted soils these things are being grown in?
Talk about not trusting your supplier on the internet, you think you can trust your grower not to use banned pesticides and herbicides? And how natural is the food supply for meat? Cattle barely have room to fall over if they die after being force fed corn and soy products. Things they would never ingest in the natural state. Ever wonder why things have such a long shelf life? More chemicals and preservatives.
So on the one side of the coin you have a diet that does not supply the nutrients it should, but instead adds hundreds if not thousands of man mad chemicals. On the other side we have humans living in stressed conditions breathing toxic air, drinking toxic water.
Some of these vitamins, minerals and other nutrients go into making substances that are charged with removing toxins from the body. So we have more toxins and an impaired ability to remove them, than say just a hundred years ago.
I put together a spread sheet that listed all the vitamins and nutrients in the foods I commonly eat. For a couple of weeks I tracked everything I ate. I was consistently low on all of the following: Virtually all the B vitamins, including choline, calcium was marginal, vitamin E, Iron, Magnesium, Molybdenum, Omega 3's and zinc. My diet does include 4-5 veggies a day, often raw, and a variety of fruits. Most of what we need is available from the food supply, Not all, but most. Trouble is the quantity of food you need to eat to get it all will turn you into a blimp.
Yes, I know here in Thailand we often get closer to fresh fruits and veggies, and have fewer factory feeding operations, but we also have more chemicals that are poorly regulated, including some that are banned in most parts of the world. A trick I heard about on the internet was to soak fruits and veggies for 5 minutes in a solution of 2 Tbs of white vinegar per gallon of water to dissolve most of the chemicals from the surface. I know, from the internet, but I'll take my chances. I doubt many street vendors do anything beyond adding sugar and MSG, and cooking in bad oils.
Bottom line is there are too many people on earth to feed them all properly. Those that see this and adjust have a better chance at survival than those that don't. I will continue with my supplements and hope at 63 I haven't waited too long.

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