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KunMatt

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In Topic: My neighbor Urinated In My Garden...

Today, 18:03

Is the OP really such an ass or is this just some type of weird joke I've stumbled across?

If it is real, then the fact that this has turned into a 6 page diatribe against all Thais simply because a neighbour pee'd on your lawn already shows the type of person you are. I'm guessing you are old, cynical and paranoid, and because of your partner you have built quite a lavish house in an Isaan village somewhere because it is a cheaper place to live but you have not tried or been able to fit in with any of your new neighbours so you've willingly outcast yourself and talk bad about everyone around you, and yet you still wonder why people make a pilgrimage to come from their homes to piss all over yours, and you are asking us why this could possible be??

I also just built a house in an Isaan village and live here full time but I'm young and easy going, I try to talk as much Thai and Isaan as I can, and I socialise and help out my neighbours and family here whenever I can. For the record nobody has come and pee'd on my lawn or tried to scam, rob or fight me, in fact quite the opposite as people have been very generous, helpful and caring, so you must be doing something wrong.

There are a couple of miserable old hermit farangs in this village who have never uttered a word to me in 2 years but it just amuses me that people make an effort to be so anti-social.

So where is it you live? It would be pretty funny if it turns out you are one of the miserable farangs in my village!

Move to a friendlier place in Thailand if it bothers you so much, but try not to be yourself as much as possible. :)

In Topic: Bangkok: Huge Turnout Expected At Red-Shirt Rally Today

2012-05-23 23:18:26

View Postphiphidon, on 2012-05-23 21:15:11, said:

View PostKunMatt, on 2012-05-23 18:07:41, said:

View Posthyperdimension, on 2012-05-23 17:55:19, said:

Now how about looking in reverse - Have the Red Shirts ever acknowledged that they are responsible for some of the deaths? The DSI claims that at least 12 people were killed by the Red Shirt side. Yet they still play the complete victim asking for justice against authorities but not against members of their own group, their leaders, nor Thaksin who organized it all including the deadly military weapons.

Only 12??

Just the deaths of the Red Shirts who were killed in their own arson attack of Central World plus the assassination of Seh Daeng is about 12 already before you've even started to count the soldiers, civvies, reporters and their own red shirts that were shot by the reds and blacks, or the people killed and maimed by the grenade attacks.

You lost any legitimacy of knowledge in the first line, let alone the rest of your sentence.

Why's that then?? It seems like you just like to refute anything which proves the Reds did anything wrong and avoid any debate.

So let' s go through them one by one to hear your version:

Were there 10 or so Reds killed in the burning of Central World?

Was Seh Daeng assassinated inside the Red's safe zone with an accurate one shot to the head after an argument with the Red leaders?

Were there soldiers and civilians shot by Reds and Blacks?

Did the Reds fire grenades into public areas causing chaos?

I believe the answer to these, and many more, is a well known yes. If not, please explain why I have no legitimate knowledge.

In Topic: Bangkok: Huge Turnout Expected At Red-Shirt Rally Today

2012-05-23 18:07:41

View Posthyperdimension, on 2012-05-23 17:55:19, said:


Now how about looking in reverse - Have the Red Shirts ever acknowledged that they are responsible for some of the deaths? The DSI claims that at least 12 people were killed by the Red Shirt side. Yet they still play the complete victim asking for justice against authorities but not against members of their own group, their leaders, nor Thaksin who organized it all including the deadly military weapons.

Only 12??

Just the deaths of the Red Shirts who were killed in their own arson attack of Central World plus the assassination of Seh Daeng is about 12 already before you've even started to count the soldiers, civvies, reporters and their own red shirts that were shot by the reds and blacks, or the people killed and maimed by the grenade attacks.

In Topic: Why So Many Farangs Without A Clue?

2012-05-23 13:28:36

View Postxen, on 2012-05-22 04:03:20, said:

I sometimes wonder where these figures of Falungs paying 100,000 thb a month originate from - from the chap giving the money or from the Thai side because i have only heard these figures from the Thai side and i put it down to one  up manship, or should i say one up bargirlship. Makes them more Hi-So .They are highly competive in the bullshit stakes .

Exactly what I was going to say. There are some people in my gf's family who, when we are around them, just talk non-stop about what they have and what they have just bought. We sit down and they show us all of their things like a toddler does with their toys and just says "this was 500 baht, this was 1,000, this was 800 baht", all fricking night.

Funnily enough whenever we do anything for ourselves, like at each stage of our house build, they would tell us how they just "won" 100 million baht on the stock market, or the husband has just given her 10 million baht for shopping and their 7 year old child has 400 million baht in his bank. These stories are all told over and over while we are sitting on the concrete floor of their parent's wooden shack which they have promised to spend 10 million baht renovating "sometime soon".

The point is, a lot of Thais talk a lot of crap to promote their position of top dog and neverending game of one-upsmanship because, for them, it is important to show they have so much in a village where everyone has so little. It's quite a horrible streak in the Thai psyche but one that you will see a lot of if you live here.

Just ignore it, let them get on with it and worry about your own business.

In Topic: Bangkok: Huge Turnout Expected At Red-Shirt Rally Today

2012-05-21 21:26:18

View Postphiphidon, on 2012-05-21 13:01:38, said:

View PostKunMatt, on 2012-05-20 22:46:46, said:

Phiphidon, just a simple question - were you actually in Bangkok during the time if the riots?

I only ask because you talk like somebody who has sourced all of his facts from the western media. I remember watching the BBC world report about it and they presented it in a way that the Red Shirts were revolutionaries standing up to an oppressive government. They revelled in those signs saying "we are not terrorists, we are peaceful protestors". And yet, that very day Bangkok was being engulfed in the fumes of hundreds of tyres burning at heavily armed check points and there were grenades regularly being shot at civilians who had nothing to do with any of this. The western media reported a very twisted version of what I experienced at the time, and to what I saw the video footage of in the Thai news everyday.

There seems to be a very different viewpoint from people who were actually here and saw some of the riots first hand and had their life affected for one month, compared to the red shirt sympathisers on this forum who spout quotes from the UK Guardian of all sources.

You can assume all you like and judging by your posts that is not a skill you are deficient at.

I was not in Bangkok at the time of the riots and am thankful for that. Why? Because it does mean that I can observe, read articles, take part in forums etc without that chip of "I was there at the Bangkok Riots, I'm a victim too" consistently blurring my insight.

I understand that there are some non Thais on here that were genuinely personally affected by the events in Bangkok in 2010. I have read of westerners who hate Thaksin because they lost their job/money in a telecom business he set up, another whose wife gave birth prematurely because a red shirt "literally" threw her out of bed whilst looking for snipers in Chulakorn Hospital, yet another whose cousins' sister (or something like that) gave birth in a taxi because of traffic jams caused by red shirts setting up roadblocks, there's even one guy on here who posts regularly about how he's liquidating his considerable fortune (I say considerable, because he's been "liquidating" it for over a year now) in the fear of Thaksin coming back to Thailand and yet at least one more that has promised to leave Thailand the minute Taksin appears.

OK, I understand your stance. What I don't understand are members who diss anything they don't agree with. Case in point, Why is the Guardian or CNN or any other western media so laughable as a source? Have you fed into the belief that Thais are inscrutable (they are to an extent, but not totally) and that no westerners will ever understand. To the contrary the average westerner (if they wish to) has a far more vast access to knowledge regarding the situation than the average Thai. Certain banned articles are accessible, with their associated risks.

To rely on local sources (including this forum) is to deny yourself knowledge. Why do you think the economist is not distributed within Thailand on occasion? We can't even discuss the situation fully on any public forum in Thailand. Any media source associated with the UDD was shut down (only in some cases for genuine "threat" reasons). This left State (and in some cases Army run) TV to transmit what they wanted.Did you query the army spokesman when he stated that no live bullets were fired, the army was not responsible for any deaths, the 500 men in black?. When Suthep stated that the photographs and videos clearly showing soldiers on the tracks above the Wat were taken on the 20th May, not the 19th May?

No, all that is said is the red shirts are armed and deserved to be shot dead.

So, yes, I am biased towards the UDD but I'm upfront with it and provide examples why where I can. You, you were in Bangkok "when they tried to burn it down" and were inconvenienced for a month.

So, I am deficient in my assumptions but correct in the sole assumption I made about you. That makes no sense, however it fits in with the rest of your blinkered arguments to just twist and use whatever suits you.

Anyways, I explained why the western media were not an honest source for the riots, and I gave an example of the BBC's stance of buying into the Red Shirts propaganda at the time. What they reported was very different to what I experienced, and the subsequent facts and events that came out during the last two years since the riots only backup the view I formed at the time, and prove that the BBC was wrong with the way they presented the Red Shirts as peaceful protesters.

What I don't understand is why someone who doesn't even live in Bangkok is such a rabble rouser for the Red Shirt movement? It seems quite silly to me seeing as you are non-Thai, non resident and didn't even witness the riots first hand, and yet here you are all the time fighting their corner for them with speculations that are not even true. It's as ridiculous as me getting into a heated debate with someone from Burma, with me defending the junta because I have read a few articles about the situation. It's none of my business and I have no place even trying to argue with anyone about it.

Even though I live in BKK I hardly discuss this Red/Yellow shirt crap. The only reason I entered this thread is because last Saturday CentralWorld was shut when I went there to buy my son's birthday present and I would like to know why the hell this mob is allowed to shut down central BKK yet again seeing as they already got their way despite staging an illegal riot that killed nearly 100 people and destroyed 30 buildings. The reason I found is that they want to shift the blame for all the deaths and destruction they caused onto the other side, which is just typical of the victim mentality they always present even though they instigated all of this.

So that's the reason I ended up in this thread. What business do you have to be here??

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