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#5336090 Sondhi Returns To Lumpini Stage

Posted anterian on 2012-05-27 14:50:29

Ecologically speaking a species with a single food source risks extinction when the environment changes, an example is the Giant Panda. Successful species are the omnivores that can eat many different food types.
The PAD are Pandas, their only target was the Thaksin family , the Reds are omnivores, they are targeted on the entire social structure of Thailand.


#5335822 Sondhi Returns To Lumpini Stage

Posted jayboy on 2012-05-27 13:07:54

View Postrixalex, on 2012-05-27 10:48:05, said:


PAD should have been disbanded long ago. Serves no purpose whatsoever other than to try and create further social division. Everyone outside of either camp, red or yellow, is just so tired of it all. Reconciliation begins the day these two groups cease to exist, and not a day before.


Why should PAD be disbanded? It's a free country and it is completely entitled to hold rallies if complying with the law.What is more its origins, leaving aside the issue of its unsavoury and authoritarian minded leadership, seem quite honourable - a middle class reaction against Thaksin's meglomania and the tyranny of the majority.The fact that it was ruthlessly exploited by the unelected elites is of course unfortunate, as was the increasingly thuggish and violent element among its younger followers.Once it had served its purpose it was muzzled: the unelected elites no more like yellow unpredictability than they do red unpredictability because both represent potential destabilisation of the status quo.If it is unleashed again it will be a calculated step by the elite to warn Thaksin not to overreach himself - all part of the great behind the scenes negotiation.If those Chinese grannies, thugs and weirdos now assembling in modest numbers think they are in control they are sadly mistaken.


#5294224 Pm Vows To Fight Preah Vihear Case In Icj

Posted animatic on 2012-05-12 14:46:04

The ruling in '62 was clear, only Thailands nationalist elements, when faced with losing the decision in implementation, have demanded creating some miraculous avenue to pin some somewhat forlorn hopes to, that their predecessors didn't irretrievably drop the ball, and lose the land rights completely back then.

I believe they did lose, and it's taken then over 50 years to even start acknowledging this fact. It didn't really mean anything to 99% of Thais past the historian level, until the world was shown Cambodia actually planing to do something with the temple. Suddenly the nationalists took the bit in their teeth. Since this multi-cultural nation is primarily held together by uber-nationalism as the sole bonding mechanism, this must rankle fundamentally with less logical minds..

Likely, they actually have lost completely. Some most certainly have NOT believed it is a done deal.  So we see the spectacle of the NEW Pm trying to calm the nationalists in the hopes that don't tack her to the wall as they did Abhisit. Hang on to your support hose dahlink it will be a bumpy ride.

Of course as Soundman notes the reality is a done deal, likely tied to much great real world financial interests for the principals involved. How to sell this oil for land for face deal to the nationalist wingnuts and general public is another thing entirely.


#5294186 Uk Jails Teenager For Possessing Al-Qaeda'S Online Magazine

Posted Yunla on 2012-05-12 14:30:39

View Postzydeco, on 2012-05-12 13:41:03, said:

So, whose word are you going to take about what is "safe" for you to read?  The state?  What else are you willing to give up for safety?  You already have CCTV watching your every step, scanners looking beneath your underwear at airports, and police agencies monitoring your words over the phone and internet, just waiting for you to slip up and say something that can be interpreted as a threat.  And now if you read the wrong thing, you go to jail?  Western countries are treating their citizens like zoo animals.  And I, for one, do not intend to reside in their monkey cage.
I think its sort of funny when people talk about "they" meaning the State as being the enemy. I don't fear the state, I don't break the law, so they can tap my phone or read my emails or whatever. Ultimately I'm paying their salaries with my taxes and I'm paying them to stop terrorists and criminals. I am infact a lot more concerned with a different "they", criminals who (unlike the state) have broken into my house and robbed me and left me with serious injuries, on different occasions. I take the side of law-enforcement including anti-terror and intelligence agencies, because ultimately I am their employer by paying their wages & I remain their employer until I break a law of the land. Criminals are different, they don't care what you write in your emails or talk about on your phone, they will smash your skull in & rob you, rape you etc. for no reason at all.
And whatever you say, those are the two options ;  anarchy with mob rule by the strongest criminals, or state law with rule by the police & the intelligence departments.
Like I said before - violent criminals have almost killed me in my own home, and police/MI5 have not done this to me. Its an easy decision which side I will take. Re: Terrorism policing, the law agencies are not Doctor Spock, they can not know who is plotting to blow up trains and buses unless they investigate them & we have to manage without the use of magical psychic powers.
Re; airports they can look under my underwear if they want to, its only a human body.


#5277907 Trayvon Martin Shooter Released On $150,000 Bond

Posted koheesti on 2012-05-06 15:20:04

View PostJingthing, on 2012-05-05 20:34:44, said:

Why the fascinating and weird sympathy for the shooter Zimmerman? Is this because of the "gun rights" issue?

Why the fascination for Trayvon? Is it because he was such a "cute boy"?

I posted a long list of the problems I see with this whole issue. Zimmerman - who while likely guilty of manslaughter - is being used by the true racists in the media and on the left as a symbol of something sinister when it was just a tragic event that took one life and ruined another plus those of their families and loved ones.


#5277398 Nine Bodies Found Hanging From Bridge In Mexico Border City

Posted dalsobrook on 2012-05-06 11:55:53

View Postfolium, on 2012-05-05 09:03:30, said:

Armed by US gun shops/dealers and funded by US consumers of drugs shipped in via/from Mexico, I'm sure the families of the approximate 60,000 killed in Mexico since the start of the conflict there in 2006, think that the "War on Drugs" championed by US governments is a resounding success.

Heaven forbid that the US government might actually look at the question of domestic drug demand (as opposed to just laying it off on the non-voting foreign suppliers), or clamp down on the flow of weaponry (can't upset the NRA in election year's), that's of course when the ATF isn't dishing out weapons to criminals in pathetically flawed "sting" operations.

What you say is very true.  Being from Texas I have seen it with my own eyes, but I'm a bit curious as to why you make it sound as if it is America's job to fix this problem.  If there were no supply of drugs making it to the border, then dealers would have to go elsewhere for their supply, which of course then would have to dealt with, but if Mexico's police, military and government weren't so corrupt, if they actually took care of their own business then the whole thing would be a non-issue.  Contrary to popular belief, it is not America's job to take care of every other countries' problems, be it drugs or anything else.  America has done that for too long and look at the shape the country is in.  You are a fool if you think that the NRA supports supplying guns to drug cartels and criminals.  The war on drugs is never going to be won if OTHER countries, i.e. Mexico and Columbia to name a couple, don't clean their own side of the street and stop depending on others to solve their problems for them.


#5275685 Norway Gunman Breivik Pleads 'Not Guilty' At Oslo Trial

Posted chuckd on 2012-05-05 16:31:41

View Postchops, on 2012-05-05 16:25:38, said:

Why does Norway need immigrants?  It is not a United States.  He has every right to be outraged.

Outrage is fine.  Murder is not.


#5175405 Officials: Taliban used child to carry out Afghan suicide attack

Posted JUDAS on 2012-03-29 20:25:48

View PostColin Yai, on 2012-03-29 20:06:17, said:

View PostUlysses G., on 2012-03-29 19:37:09, said:

Using children as suicide bombers is inexcusable, no matter how many other hateful savages have done it.
Of Course UG nothing and I do mean NOTHING excuses the Taliban or for that Matter any other regime from using kids or women non combatants as Suicide Bombers ,but what we are talking about is happening right now at this moment in time, maybe that is the stark difference to what has happened in the past ,Suicide means just what it imply's, certain death ,which certainly was not the case with other suggestions of Children being exploited which was put forward.

Whilst I find myself in total agreement with these comments I also realize that all we can realistically do is be vocal. We, the western powers, can never defeat an enemy such as the taliban. What we should be doing is securing our own borders and conducting surgical strikes, the likes of which eliminated Osama, against targets which pose a clear threat to country/people.


#5174462 Are Our Children Ready To Face New Challenges?: Thai Opinion

Posted Unkomoncents on 2012-03-29 14:26:16

View PostDeepInTheForest, on 2012-03-28 05:33:21, said:

The Thai educational system is undoubtedly in need of great improvement. There are fundamental problems in Thai society that are in dire need of attention. And yet...

While acknowledging that there are enormous gaps and frustrations and bewildering behavior throughout the society, are we in this forum painting with too broad a brush? I sometimes feel that posters impute some kind of essence to Thai society that forever dooms it, as if due to some incurable genetic trait. To me that seems to be a curious viewpoint, given the many problems that our own native societies exhibit. Not to mention bigoted and intellectually as indefensible as many of the shortcomings that posters decry.

Then there is this.
http://physics.scien...h/en/staff.html

Surely there are some in the society who have curiosity and the intellectual drive to do well in highly-educated fields. So should the question be, why is success not more widespread, and how to achieve it, rather than, why are Thai people so irredeemably inadequate at [fill in the blank from some of the many posts in this forum, or supply your own pet peeve]?

Your thoughts are legitimate and well expressed.  Nevertheless, it feels a bit disappointing, though unsurprising, that the accusations of "bigotry", racism and prejudice have surfaced.  As usual, this serves to shut down any debate and therefore spare whole peoples from criticism while the rest have to endure it.  It is critical obfuscation at its finest and minority groups in countries like the US have used this technique to prevent debate (in the media) over the power of the Zionist lobby in America and cow concerned citizens into silence in neighborhoods ridden by crime.

The comments that I personally made regarding Thailand and problems with Thai education have nothing to do with genetics or biology.  Thai culture encourages one to relax, avoid challenge and have fun.  It should come as little surprise then, that there are Nobel-prize winning Thai scientists, astronauts, and authors.  To accomplish great things, one must challenge oneself and seek constant self-improvement.  I have met brilliant, cosmopolitan Thais with whom I enjoy long intellectual conversations, but they were educated outside Thailand or in Thailand's international schools.

As for the future of Thai society, again, it has nothing to do with genetics.  Cultural problems in Thailand are fundamentally preventing the country from making any progress while simultaneously marginalizing it politically and economically in the ASEAN region.  The government is currently a puppet-administration that attracts little attention from foreign diplomats, whether they are Singaporean or European.  That's because the level of corruption in Thailand has reached a crisis level.  These things are readily demonstrated in media and regional studies.  This is a cultural problem.  Thailand is not "doomed".  It will just become poorer and less important in the Southeast Asian region, all of which will only hurt Thai people and continue to prevent their assimilation into the global workforce.  Optimism concerning Thailand's future is cute.  It doesn't comport at all with the country's general political and economic progress in the last decade, though.  We can be optimistic about Yemen too.  That doesn't solve the massive cultural problems (tribalism) that are preventing peace, security and prosperity in the country.  

Many of the posters on Thai Visa try to blame the government for Thailand's problems.  What they fail to recognize (and this has been demonstrated) is that even if a country's government isn't democratically elected, that country's government is a fundamental reflection of its culture.  Do you see much hope for the Thai government over the next decade?


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