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In Topic: Why Is It So Difficult To Find A Good Friend In Thailand

2012-04-30 15:42:03

View Postwana, on 2012-04-30 15:25:58, said:

View Postcup-O-coffee, on 2012-04-30 13:54:12, said:

View Postwana, on 2012-04-30 13:34:35, said:

never thought id say this but i agree with bendix on this one

sometimes i want to sit down and mind my own business or eat ,drink ,shop or watch sports in peace  or sometimes im answering emails ( ie .working ) on my phone etc

that means NOT  being interrogated by farangs who think they can ask me questions
about why i happen to be in thailand and what work i do ,where i live and how long have i been.........
and can i speak thai ......and where is the best place to get........

i might be the only customer in a bar with 20 tables  and a farang comes in and decides i will be his new friend ...
and he will tell me the story of his life and how he winded up in thailand ...........then maybe give me some story
about being ripped off and ask if i can lend him a couple of 1000 thb or buy him a few beers etc

i dont tolerate such idiots either ,sorry in advance  if it seems rude to some but i value my time more than offending some  idiot ......

Alright, but you are agreeing with someone who has hijacked a thread.

So what is the difference from being able to politely interrupt and say, "Excuse me, but I came here to be alone. I hope you don't mind, but I'd appreciate it if you would respect that." If they don't then keep moving on and eventually you will find yourself on a mountain top swatting at the flies.

Allowing yourself to be subjected to things, where you have a choice not to, is making you out to to be in the wrong (NOT him / her / them) by allowing it to happen with your silence and acknowledgement through body language. You are simply feeding their ego. Just let them know. What is the big deal? Your solitude comes with a price, and sometimes the cost is letting people know vocally and politely.

This thread is about questioning the difficulties and challenges of finding a friend. Bendix has hijacked it with his disagreeable attitude and turned the entire OP around towards talking about people that you will rarely encounter or be subjected to if you have half a brain and a small bit of politeness and courtesy.

Why do people like this whine they want to be alone and then put themselves into the thick of it and act like the turf they chose is theirs and theirs alone? Ya wanna be alone? Go find a mountain top. Ya wanna be alone in the thick of it? Get used to the variables and be nice and most of the time they will respect that. Maybe Bendix should be the one to sod off (as he eloquently put it to another poster) and quit interrupting very legitimate and thoughtful responses to a very legitimate and realistic quandary about not wishing to be alone all the time, and simply being able to have a nice conversation and cold one with a kindred spirit.

Now, back to the OP!

theres a differnce in "putting yourself  in the thick of it "  and entitled to be in public place and wish to NOT have the company of another lonely bored  homesick  farang

and btw ,threads go in many directions  ,we are nearly on page 15 of a thread about a guy who lives in the middle of knowhere and hasnt much friends ,surprise surprise !

how many pages did you think it would take to go "off course " .......

30 pages? .45 pages ?

how much more is there to discuss about making friends in a place where there is almost no people ??Posted Image

And what makes you so confident that your interpretation of all of this matters?

I for one am enjoying this thread. I really do. I take the good with the bad, and I am getting more good out of threads like this where "men" have to come clean and open up a bit and describe what makes them tick. Clearly some are afraid of that and try to hide behind their "mysterious warrior" shell. I can be as tough as the rest of them, but being a father is teaching me that you don't have to be a bully to be strong and courageous.

Again, I am really enjoying this thread. Even Bendix is relenting a bit with his jibing crack at being my friend. His danger is that I took him up on it, and now he has to ante up, or face the consequences of looking like a fool.

I will make an attempt at being his friend, and only his insincerity will be his undoing... unless of course he is in one of those "I wanna be alone" moods. I'll respect that.

Cheers

In Topic: Why Is It So Difficult To Find A Good Friend In Thailand

2012-04-30 15:36:12

View Postbendix, on 2012-04-30 15:31:26, said:

Can we be friends, cup-of-camp-coffee?  I feel warm and cuddly now that you have 'decreed your opinion on me.'

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Absolutely. I am willing to give it a shot. I love your tenacity, but you piss me off. I'd love to. PM me. I'm here. Just don't give me the rush and you'd better be sincere!

In Topic: Why Is It So Difficult To Find A Good Friend In Thailand

2012-04-30 15:34:21

Back to the OP

thequietman, you can PM me any time. I live in Pattaya, and I was a bit suspect at first when I read your OP, but the way you have held up throughout this thread is noteworthy to me at least. I hope this thread is not locked because the subject is near to my heart as well. Sometimes I am so goddamned lonely for a bit of company that it actually distracts me from being able to concentrate on anything else. it is like a fever and it demotes me from being as productive as I could be.

There simply isn't enough that one can say about being able to know that there is a place or a person where and whom you can go to and they will know your name. Sound corny? Sound like "Cheers"? Well, actually the sitcom Cheers originated from the very same question that you pose. Men need men to get their feet back on the ground and to be reminded of things they perhaps have forgotten about or to even simply enjoy a dam_n good football game. Those men who fight that and try to make it out to be a pansy type thing ought to have their brains slapped around IF they choose to interfere and denigrate this.

I will be honest and say that over the last few days, this thread has compelled me to search myself and come up with some pretty sober answers about my  shortcomings and how I am viewed by others. So, thanks thequietman, and thanks TV for letting this thread go on......... despite!

In Topic: Why Is It So Difficult To Find A Good Friend In Thailand

2012-04-30 13:54:12

View Postwana, on 2012-04-30 13:34:35, said:

never thought id say this but i agree with bendix on this one

sometimes i want to sit down and mind my own business or eat ,drink ,shop or watch sports in peace  or sometimes im answering emails ( ie .working ) on my phone etc

that means NOT  being interrogated by farangs who think they can ask me questions
about why i happen to be in thailand and what work i do ,where i live and how long have i been.........
and can i speak thai ......and where is the best place to get........

i might be the only customer in a bar with 20 tables  and a farang comes in and decides i will be his new friend ...
and he will tell me the story of his life and how he winded up in thailand ...........then maybe give me some story
about being ripped off and ask if i can lend him a couple of 1000 thb or buy him a few beers etc

i dont tolerate such idiots either ,sorry in advance  if it seems rude to some but i value my time more than offending some  idiot ......

Alright, but you are agreeing with someone who has hijacked a thread.

So what is the difference from being able to politely interrupt and say, "Excuse me, but I came here to be alone. I hope you don't mind, but I'd appreciate it if you would respect that." If they don't then keep moving on and eventually you will find yourself on a mountain top swatting at the flies.

Allowing yourself to be subjected to things, where you have a choice not to, is making you out to to be in the wrong (NOT him / her / them) by allowing it to happen with your silence and acknowledgement through body language. You are simply feeding their ego. Just let them know. What is the big deal? Your solitude comes with a price, and sometimes the cost is letting people know vocally and politely.

This thread is about questioning the difficulties and challenges of finding a friend. Bendix has hijacked it with his disagreeable attitude and turned the entire OP around towards talking about people that you will rarely encounter or be subjected to if you have half a brain and a small bit of politeness and courtesy.

Why do people like this whine they want to be alone and then put themselves into the thick of it and act like the turf they chose is theirs and theirs alone? Ya wanna be alone? Go find a mountain top. Ya wanna be alone in the thick of it? Get used to the variables and be nice and most of the time they will respect that. Maybe Bendix should be the one to sod off (as he eloquently put it to another poster) and quit interrupting very legitimate and thoughtful responses to a very legitimate and realistic quandary about not wishing to be alone all the time, and simply being able to have a nice conversation and cold one with a kindred spirit.

Now, back to the OP!

In Topic: Why Is It So Difficult To Find A Good Friend In Thailand

2012-04-30 12:13:48

View Postbendix, on 2012-04-30 10:54:45, said:

View Postcup-O-coffee, on 2012-04-30 10:09:29, said:

View Postbendix, on 2012-04-27 12:51:57, said:

There are some interesting observations here regarding striking up conversations with other farang you see around.

The obvious question is 'why?'

You wouldnt initiate conversation with random men back home, so why do it here, simply because they are the same race as you.  It's no different from saying that you should initiate contact and strike up a conversation with people wearing the same colour teeshirt.

I'd take it further.  If anyone randomly strikes up conversation with me, I make it a point to be very wary.  If they are farang in Thailand, even more so.

Go away people.  Leave me alone.  Simply having fair skin and blue eyes does not give you the right to invade my life.

Lighten up. Yes! I would initiate conversation with random men back home when the setting is designed for it. When you are out in public and at a public place anyone has a right to acknowledge you politely and make a polite attempt to strike up a conversation if the setting is ripe for it (e.g. out front of a mom and pop shop where there are tables and geezers sitting around having a cold one, or a setting where people are able to sit near each other and enjoy the elements.

Some people simply like to get out once in  awhile and enjoy conversing in their language with others who speak that language. I am not describing an idiot who singles you out and it is clear that their approach will make anyone uncomfortable. Usually eye contact and a friendly nod is enough to get the message across that you wish to chat or to be left alone, depending on the reaction of the other party.

Use it or lose it is what I say. Some times my brain feels like it is atrophying because I am around simian chatter all day and the context of 90 percent of that chatter is so base, unstimulated and devoid of anything worth listening to. It is truly refreshing to sit around and listen to others speak of things that make sense and to learn things you did not know had you not been there to listen to them. Even throwing in a word or two to stimulate the conversation brings pleasure because if you don't keep your mind sharp and test what you know against others, then what is the use of existing?

If you want to position yourself in the field as a target for a polite invite for chat, then perhaps you should put a placard in front of you that tells people to leave you alone, unless you are polite enough to let them know you are not in the mood for it. Otherwise, they will approach you. That is just the way of positive and happy people who are getting out of the house for a bit of fresh air and to get rid of the cabin fever.



Three points:

1) If people have 'the right' to approach me simply because they want to engage in a conversation, I retain the right to ignore them.  

Agreed, but ignoring someone in that manner is antisocial behavior. There are certain responsibilities that go hand in hand with being considered a part of the human race. Being polite and refusing is a part of that. I am only saying this as a means for you to consider in order to avoid confrontations or insults to your character and behavior.

2) The day I need to engage with some neanderthal with tattoos, a shaved head and a Bad Boys Go To Pattaya teeshirt to keep my mind fresh, is the day I ask Mrs Bendix to load the shotgun and do the decent thing.

Funny you extract this type of person as an example of what I am describing. You seem to allude to the most sinister and sordid examples when there are more options out there than those. You are either stirring the pot and glorifying in being a crusty old fart, or you really are the one to avoid and/or get a proper nut on the head if you do spout off the wrong thing when someone tries to be courteous about a little banter and crack.

How can someone know you are like this if they do not ask, and do so politely, or even be a bit careless and cross your line innocently (it happens occasionally) without you jumping down their throat? You are asituation waiting to happen; I can guarantee that!

3) I love the idea of a placard.  I might just do that, although I see there is an associated risk that it might encourage approaches too.

Incorrigible! I would never intend to bother you, Bendix. I truly would not, and I mean that I respect what you say. But were you to be rude, then you must consider the consequences of your rudeness; not only from the person, but also from the bystanders who overhear your response and who view your behavior. the quietman is a far better person that you are, as demonstrated by his sincerity and courage. He simply questions - with that courage and sincerity - those things that you willingly choose to come on this thread and publicly take the time to $hit on; and without being euphemistic, that is exactly what you have been on about.

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