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In Topic: Wife Wants Viktor Bout Brought Back To Thailand To Face Charges Here

2010-11-23 07:19:49

I would expect a serious newspaper to be more precise! You forgot to mention that once Alla Bout will be back in Moskau later this week she and her lawyers will prepare to sue the Thai government, the PM Abhisit and the authorities involved in his extradition at the International Criminal Court. She will charge them also with violating her husbands human rights by preventing due legal process, humiliating him during the procedure (stripping him naked and taking all his belongings) - these action were not different than a criminal kidnapping.
They are also going to sue the American entertainment industry for making a movie about Viktor that is pure fiction and that completely destroyed the reputation of Viktor.
Her lawyer mentioned that the case in Thailand is in good shape and from the legal standpoint he is very confident.
These are just the mere facts about what she said yesterday - I was there; no need to shoot the messenger...

In Topic: Wife Says Viktor Bout 'Card In Political Game'

2010-11-17 12:13:16

Incredible what limited sense for the law some people here might have. A civilized person has to assume that someone is innocent until otherwise proven in a court of law. Now you judge a Russian businessman because of a shady illegal sting operation of some agents sent by the USA and by the image the mighty superficial American entertainment industry is painting??

Consider this side of the story published in rt.com to get a more even view of things:


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Viktor Bout, thanks  to America's all powerful entertainment  industry, has acquired a reputation as one of the world's most prolific arms  dealers. Indeed, his life and times is said to have been the inspiration behind  the Hollywood film “Lord of War,” which starred Nicolas Cage.  In the book “Merchant of Death,” written by Dougles Farah and Stephen Braun,  Bout was unjustly accused of sitting “atop an immense and complex empire: a  relentless international war machine able to deliver anything from AK-47s and  missile launchers to artillery and attack helicopters…”

Now compare those inflated charges with comments made by Brian  Johnson-Thomas, former UN arms inspector:

“Viktor ran quite a large airline operation in Africa,”  Johnson-Thomas acknowledged. “And I would think that 95 per cent of his  flights consisted of normal commercial goods. So we’re talking about maybe  five per cent of the cargoes possibly being arms. But flying arms is not in  itself illegal.”

This brings up the daunting question as to how Viktor Bout can be expected to  receive a fair trial in a country that was already crafting films over his  perceived persona long before he had received a fair trial.

Indeed, there is not a place in the United States where the name Viktor Bout  has not been dragged through the mud.

“You have to be a Houdini, a magician multiplied by factor of ten million  to actually have a fair trial, a fair shake,” Daniel Estulin, the  investigative journalist who is working on a book about the “conspiracy” against  Viktor Bout, told RT in an interview. “It's not about the truth; it's about  getting a guy, a patsy, to go to prison, so America could feel safe and feel  good about themselves, about being the beacon of truth and hope. And that's what  it is all about.”

Most disturbingly, however, is the way the United States has treated alleged  “terrorists” or those thought to be aiding and abetting them in the past.

Indeed, the prospect of being forced to appear before a secret US military  tribunal could be the next chapter in the life of alleged arms dealer Viktor  Bout.

And if that worst-case scenario comes to pass, the truth will remain just  another topic for Hollywood audiences to ponder while eating their popcorn.



In Topic: Thaksin: Don't Name Pheu Thai Candidate Yet

2010-10-13 07:35:07

View PostBuchholz, on 2010-10-13 06:56:24, said:

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?
Chalerm? Chavalit?

There are many more very capable people at Pheu Thai. But in the end does it really matter? Anyone of these people is a better choice than the present PM.

In Topic: At Least Three Dead In Bomb Blast At Bangkok Apartment Building

2010-10-06 11:40:25

View PostOzMick, on 2010-10-06 11:06:33, said:

I have already supplied you with one link and quote stating that urea nitrate
CH5N3O4is as explosive an AN. Here is another http://en.wikipedia....ki/Urea_nitrate "The compound is favored by many amateur explosive enthusiasts as a  principal explosive used in larger charges, as a substitute for ammonium  nitrate based explosives. This is due to both the ease of acquiring the  materials necessary to synthesize it, and its greater sensitivity to  initiation compared to ammonium nitrate based explosives."
Can you explain to me why anyone smart enough to draw breath would buy a urea/AN mix and then try to remove the urea when AN is sold unadulterated in any semi-civilized farming area?

Well, that's what I explained all along. Urea is no explosive at all; it's a carbamide without any energetic nitro or nitrate component. I was never mentioning Ureanitrate because that's a different substance.
Urea is no explosive and you must be able to chemically transform it into Ureanitrate first and for that you need some basic chemical knowledge, equipment and at least some highly concentrated nitric acid. It's much easier to just purify and recrystallize Ammoniumnitrate than chemically synthesizing Ureanitrate from urea.
Again, urea must be chemically transformed into a nitrate before it becomes an explosive - but then it is a completely new molecule and not urea any longer.
Let's just be a bit more precise here; we are also talking about Ammoniumnitrate and not just about Ammonium, because these are two different substances. On the same page no one is thinking of an explosive if we are talking about Glycerine - it's only an explosive after we chemically transform it into Nitroglycerine. Therefore I am not talking about an explosive when mentioning Urea.
There are thousands of other substances that are completely harmless per se but once you nitrate them they become an explosive.

In Topic: At Least Three Dead In Bomb Blast At Bangkok Apartment Building

2010-10-06 10:40:12

View Postgeriatrickid, on 2010-10-06 10:09:28, said:

You reference the McVeigh detonation, which is a good illustration. My understanding is that multiple detonators were used along with several fuses. The first  "explosion" was for the 160kg. of Tovex which was supposed to set off the 13 barrels, of which 9 contained a mixture of ammonium nitrate and CH3NO2. The other barrels contained diesel and generic fertilizer - the ANFO

I am wondering whether you have studied the experts claiming that Mc Veigh using ANFO is a myth:


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Cohen stated his position in a letter to Oklahoma State Representative Charles Key:

      

   It would have been absolutely impossible and against the laws of    nature for a truck full of fertilizer and fuel oil… no matter how much was    used… to bring the building down.

              Interestingly, the Ryder truck-bomb has earned the nickname the "Mannlicher-Carcanno Bomb" after the cheap Italian-made rifle with a defective scope that was allegedly used to kill President Kennedy. District Attorney Jim Garrison joked during the Shaw conspiracy trial that the government's nuclear physics lab could explain how a single bullet could travel through President Kennedy and Governor Connally five times while making several u-turns, then land in pristine condition on the President's gurney.

In the Oklahoma bombing case, it appears the government is attempting to perform a similar feat of light and magic. The fact that a non-directional, low-velocity fertilizer bomb parked 20 to 30 feet from a modern, steel-reinforced super-structure could not have caused the pattern and degree of damage it did is not being widely touted by the government or the mainstream press. The government expects the public to believe that two disgruntled amateurs blew up the Oklahoma City Federal Building with a homemade fertilizer bomb.

       Dr. Roger Raubach doesn't believe the government. Raubach, who did his Ph.D. in physical chemistry and served on the research faculty at Stanford University, says, "General Partin's assessment is absolutely correct. I don't care if they pulled up a semi-trailer truck with 20 tons of ammonium nitrate; it wouldn't do the damage we saw there."

       Raubach, who is the technical director of a chemical company, explained in an interview with The New American magazine:

      

   "The detonation velocity of the shock wave from an ANFO (ammonium    nitrate/fuel-oil) explosion is on the order of 2,000 to 3,500 meters per second. In    comparison, military explosives generally have detonation velocities that hit    7,000 to 8,000-plus meters per second. The most energetic single-component    explosive of this type, C-4 — which is also known as Cyclonite or RDX    — is about 8,000 meters per second and above. You don't start doing    big-time damage to heavy structures until you get into those ranges, which is    why the military uses those explosives."

       The government is not happy about people like Dr. Roger Raubach. They don't want you to know what Dr. Raubach knows. Sam Gronning, a licensed, professional blaster in Casper, Wyoming with 30 years experience in explosives, told The New American:

      

   "The Partin letter states in very precise technical terms what    everyone in this business knows: No truck-bomb of ANFO out in the open is going    to cause the kind of damage we had there in Oklahoma City. In 30 years of    blasting, using everything from 100 percent nitrogel to ANFO, I've not seen    anything to support that story."

       In an interview with the author, Gronning said, "I set off a 5,000 lb ANFO charge. I was standing 1,000 feet from it, and all it did was muss my hair, take out the mud in the creek that we were trying to get rid of, and it shattered a few leaves off the trees around it. It didn't cause any collateral damage to any of the deeply set trees that were within 20 feet of it."


You can find many more details and expert analysis here: ANFO at Oklahoma city?

Whatever happens, as long as we don't have a precise and top quality forensic analysis and facts every bomb blast will be an endless source of myths, propaganda, lies, politics, finger pointing and useless speculation.

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