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  1. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    dantilley, I did say 2022 previously. However, we'll just have to wait and see who wins the tender (I'm betting on the CP Group) and exactly when works starts and what rolling stock they select. Lastly, when that order is placed.....;) Another issue, which I've posted on a number of years ago is that the track is cheaper Chinese steel which is why the SRTET has had a lot of problems and has had to grind it so regularly. It will all need to be replaces at some stage before HSR ops commence so we can expect a complete shutdown of the line at some point - which most likely will be needed as I'd expect the signalling system will be upgraded/changed.
  2. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    Hi dantilley, you must feel like a broken record having to ask the same questions for the last few years. To be honest I don't know the exact progress of the Express baggage care conversion program. I'll need to go ask for an update. Regarding the new rolling stock (the budget which was approved back in mid 2013), I previously mentioned that it has all been put on hold as whoever wins the Eastern HSR bid (the tender closes this week), will take over operations of the ARL and thus purchase new rolling stock. Thus nothing new before 2023!!! How is that for a completely messed up process of obtaining (NOT) new rolling stock.
  3. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    I had to laugh when I read this.....there was literally 3 posts just a few above yours in this same page which gave the opening date!
  4. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    Still aiming for opening on the 5th....not sure where the 6th came from? Regarding capacity, read the post on rolling stock back 5 or 6 pages for some critical points on this issue. There will still be overcrowding, esp in the early months as most of the rolling stock (factored for future growth) has yet to be delivered. The BTS model is to maximise pax numbers while delaying rolling stock expenditure as long as possible. Wait until the MRT Yellow and Pink lines open, they will be worse. It will probably only eventually change if a couple of people die.......On this issue alone, the concession granted to the BTS should not be extended.
  5. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    Progress of civil works for MRTA lines currently under construction as of 30 Sept; 1) MRT Blue Line ext: 100% - S&E installation: 61% 2) BTS Northern ext: 79% 3) MRT Orange Line: 18.33% 4) BTS Southern ext: 100% - - S&E installation: 73% 5) MRT Pink Line: 10.57% 6) MRT Yellow Line: 9.61%
  6. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    agree with your Crossy, the MRTA has been stating that this station will open in March 2019 which I took to mean sometime in the 2nd quarter. I pass there semi regularly and it is patently obvious that a March opening will not be met given that work on the actual station has not commenced and the viaduct is still being built. However, once they do start on the station structure most the civil works are built very quickly given the installation of pre-fab beams etc. It is the fitting out that always seems to take 2-3 times as long as it should, especially with the signalling and electrical systems. Late 2nd quarter 2019 is still achievable if everything falls into place. Of course the irony here is that they should be aiming to open up the whole section to Ratcha Yothin intersection first as the 1st Phase rather than just one station.
  7. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    Indeed, every BTS extension that has been opened has had a period of free travel for the extension - usually 2-3 months. e.g. On Nut to Bearing, Bearing to Sarong, WWY to Talat Phu. There are a couple of ironic issues here with this BMA practice. Firstly, every extension has opened up at least 1 year late from the original schedule. Thus, the BMA has not only foregone that income during the period the delay, but thereafter loses further income during the free travel period though this is also stated as a form of compensation to travellers arising from the delayed opening. Secondly, in relation to this extension which is wholly outside Bangkok Province and was/is an MRTA project, the MRTA has basically 'dumped' the ownership (and debts) of the extension onto the BMA. The BMA has strongly resisted this.
  8. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    It was due to be built from mid this year but the tendered. It seems more like starting in the 1st quarter of next year? It will only take 9-12 months to build and fit out.
  9. Lakegeneve

    MRT blue line extension Pin Klao / Opening when ?

    MRTA. Nothing is opening for this ext in 2018 so ignore that. Dates have (and can/will) change so some of the other places where you are reading this are most likely either out of date or just not reliable for correct info. The opening of the 1st section is still just under a year away so don't get too caught up at this stage. Remember, the whole extension was originally due to open in 2016 when construction started in mid 2011. Since 2016, there there have been 4 new different opening dates......
  10. Lakegeneve

    MRT blue line extension Pin Klao / Opening when ?

    Not correct. This will actually be the second section opening in 2020. The first section opening in Aug 2019 is the section from Hua lamphong via Tha Phra to Lak Song (along Phetkasem rd). The tunnelled section to Tha Phra has basically been complete since the start of this year and realistically it could most likely open later this year. However, the MRTA likes to open complete extensions/sections rather than opening them gradually.
  11. Lakegeneve

    MRT blue line extension Pin Klao / Opening when ?

    Expect Aug 2019 for the 1st part of the MRT Blue Line ext. to open (Original opening date was 2016). All the info that you need is in this thread,
  12. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    @burner2014 You'll note that this line is referred to in the BTS charts that I posted a few pages back (pg 44, #653). I used to include it in the summary list up to a couple of years ago, but haven't done so recently. It is also in Archstudents map (Lime Green line). There are a few issues here. Firstly, there is provision in the design of the previous extension to Bearing for the BTS to run this route. Secondly, this line was always intended to open when T3 at BKK airport opens to provide access from the south. T3 opening is contingent upon T2 opening and an APM being built. Both T2 and T3 are years behind both the original and readjusted schedules. However, it is a line that is needed to be built given growth along the corridor. (Samut Prakhan province also has a plan to build a separate line from Samut Prakhan up to the airport). Realistically, I can't see this line being built until around the mid 2020s given the current back log of other extensions and lines. Even, the MRT Brown line will be built before this line. However, everything can change.
  13. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    Ave is around 1km apart. I'm actually surprised that the lens could film some of the more northern stations up near Lak Si circle. Impressive. (I wonder what/who else the owner is filming from his Suplai condo....?)
  14. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    Many have written on this exact issue including moi over the years. (If you go back a few years into this thread you'll find a few posts that I wrote on this exact issue). I have been especially critical of the private concessionaire model used in Bangkok which I regard as flawed and which has lead to many of the problems we have experienced especially in relation to overcrowding and the delay of integrated ticketing. The lack of integrated ticketing is particularly appalling given the long delays and that it is the norm nearly everywhere else for decades. The general lack of integration and interoperability is a big problem has it limits future options and has a complete lack of operational logic most highlighted by the SRT commuter red line plans. Heavy rail lines changed to monorail (Yellow and Pink) will have long term problems which I've mentioned numerous times. However, after years of delays and constant govt changes interfering with the process, we basically have to accept what is being built now and be happy that many lines have finally progressed to the point where we will have a basic, decent network in a few years. Major remedies will be required in the future to improve the network. However, when you look at major highway construction, new airports or other transport infrastructure built in Thailand that has always been the case (and most likely will continue to be so).
  15. Lakegeneve

    The New Skytrain

    Yes, it will run along Lam Lukka rd. It is listed as #18 in the list above under (C) with the estimated tender date of 2019/20. I still think that this is accurate as MRTA has been stating that they wish to do this and the last section of the southern extension soon, but the reality is that the delays to the Purple and Orange line extensions will push this back. In reality, it should be contracted before the full northern extension opens in late 2019. Here is a recent update of the Northern extension if you have good long sight vision....
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