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Richard-BKK

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  1. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    For everybody else, I will honestly answer any valid questions you could have regarding the GPX ZF250 motorcycle. If anybody wants to test ride this motorcycle, only ZF250 Cross available, can contact the distributor and compare the engine performance with his current motorcycle... I was told that the Thai GPX distributor organizes test riding days now-and-then... I'm as I said before very happy with my GPX ZF250 Enduro, which I bought to use for two years, I currently own the ZF250 for 18 months so I have still 6 months to go before I reach my target. The bike will probably last much longer, as in the last 18 months I had only a flat tire... and I replaced the chain... If somebody wonders why 2-years, with a motocross bike 2-years is about the average life span of a motocross bike. I bike was original priced at 69,000 THB so it will cost me 34,500 THB per year to have an off-road bike (probably less as I plan to sell it for 35,000 THB). So if I sell it for 35,000 THB I had two-years of extreme fun with a price ticket of 17,000 THB a year... what is peanuts
  2. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    Did you not promised pictures of the DID rims on your Honda CRF250L? And no I not searching the internet for shocks, as I said I send a few emails and if the answers tell me that they're shocks on the GPX ZF250 are not from FOX Racing I will report that honestly...
  3. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    I said, that off-road the suspension of the GPX ZF250 is indeed better, while the suspension on the Kawasaki KLX250 is more suitable for on-road riding. So that means that on a harder surface, like tarmac or harder surface unpaved roads, the suspension of the Kawasaki KLX250 is better. In the dirt and soft surface riding off-road the suspension on the GPX ZF250 is better... So depending what you do with your motorcycle it's hard to tell which suspension is better.
  4. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    The GPX ZF250 rims/wheels are made by Union Autoparts, which is a Thai company which was setup, and owned, by Honda and another Japanese partner. I'm very happy with the GPX wheels and if needed I can buy new rims without needing to order them, DID doesn't make rims in Thailand (http://www.ds.co.th). And according to DID, they only make two rims in two colors (black and silver), the first is called the Original (and they make that model the longest), the second is a bit pricy and is called LTX or STX depending on the color) http://www.didchain.com/dirtstar.html If Honda is using DID rims on the CRF250L I'm very happy for them, if somebody with a Honda CRF250L or Kawasaki KLX250 want to join us for a ride and experience how much more power the GPX ZF250 has over a KLX250 or CRF250L you're more than welcome to join us on a trip.
  5. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    I agree, and I never made it a secret, the GPX ZF250 Enduro is not very fuel efficient – this is one of the reasons why I would not buy or recommend it as a motorcycle for daily commuting, also I never recommended the ZF250 as motorcycle for touring or longer rides. More fuel consumption should not be a surprise to anybody, as more power production comes often with higher fuel consumption... For the FOX Racing shock, it's still not decided if they're original or not, I'm waiting for a reply from Fox Racing. Still I would be surprised if the GPX distributor in the USA and Australia would be allowed to sell fake Fox Racing shocks....
  6. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    I also had contact with DID Thailand and they confirmed that Honda is using a DID chain for the Honda CRF250L, but they said they knew nothing about Honda using DirtStar rims on the CRF250L. If you want to contact them yourself, you can the telephone number is 038-891206 See here the two models of rims in two colors with the marking as DID sells them, by the way DID doesn't make rims in Thailand.
  7. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    Actually I have no problems with giving information, the delay in responding to the FOX Racing suspension is that I have also some doubts that I hope to clear within a few days. I send several emails to Fox Racing and Fox Racing distributors and the manufacturer of GPX motorcycle to get confirmation that the shock is a OEM Fox shock As you can see the in the picture of the shock, it doesn't look exactly like the latest FOX Podium RC2 shock, still it has similar operation and settings. So my first idea was that they could be fake, but I was told by several MX riders that the 'old' pre-Podium shocks from FOX Racing look similar, also I found that Polaris uses Fox Racing shocks on its Scrambler 400 which also look not much like what FOX is selling commercially. Also in the USA and Australia GPX claims that the same shocks are OEM Fox Racing shocks.... So I hope to tell everybody the complete information within a few days.
  8. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    Sure I not believe everything on the Internet, but I would expected that some magazine that tested the Honda CRF250L would mention DID rims, its a famous name... We're in Thailand, and I can tell you that not much people with some technical/motorcycle knowledge will specify a Thai made DID chain as a quality product. If you search a bit on this forum a user called Tony-BKK reported that he was very disappointed in the quality of a Thai made DID chain as it only lasted around 6 months...
  9. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    Who is giving out wrong information? Is the Kawasaki KLX250 standard equipped with D.I.D. Wheels? Or are the wheels on the Thai built Kawasaki KLX250 from Union Automotive parts? The wheels on the GPX ZF250 are from Union Autoparts While in some countries in the world a Chinese manufacturer can probably get away with selling fake FOX Racing Shox suspension I doubt that they are capable of doing so in Australia and the USA. So with that information we can assume that the FOX Racing Shox suspension on the GPX ZF250 is real. If I have provided wrong information regarding the GPX ZF250 motorcycle please share that information so that other people following this discussion will also know that... I'm only human and as we all know humans can make mistakes... So I'm very sure that everybody here would like to know if any information I provided is incorrect. Richards quote belowI'm sure that you'll be surprised if I claim that the quality of the wheels GPX ZF250 uses is the same as they use on the KLX250 or CRF250L, they actual come from the same manufacturer. So Richard the crf comes with did rims sort of blows your above statement out the water the crf also comes with did chain these are just some of the quality parts I'm talkin about let's look at forks crf nOt adjustable but made by showa with the spring on one side suppose to give better feedback from the road surface sorry you didn't mention what forks the gpx has That is indeed good information as I was informed that the rims/wheels on the Kawasaki KLX250 come from Union Autoparts http://www.uam.co.th...oductsRIMs.html I cannot find any conformation that the Honda CRF250L is using D.I.D. rims, I know they use D.I.D. Rims on the CRF250R but that bike is in a whole different price class also the CRF250L and CRF250R do not use the same wheels. I personally have some reservations to believe Honda is using DID rims on the budget Honda CRF250L, the main reason is that Union Autoparts is a Honda affiliated company setup in partnership with Siam Goshi Manufacturing Co.,Ltd (which on its own is already a partnership between Goshi Giken Co.,Ltd and Honda), the main mission of the company is to create a reliable manufacturer for parts and wheels for motorcycles. Of course Honda and Goshi Giken would invest into a company that big and than use rims from other companies for use in their own budget motorcycles... this is completely logical...hahaha According to Motorcyclist Online website, the Honda CRF250L comes with STEEL rims http://www.motorcycl.../05/wheels.html And Total Motorcycle says they are lightweight aluminum rims http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcycles/2013models/2013-Honda-CRF250L.htm still I cannot find any website that confirms that the wheels or the rims are from DID
  10. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    No, just the enduro is not for sale, the cross still is, and they are the same bike essentially. Does the cross have lights? Can it be registered for the road? If not..... not the same Sent from my GT-P1010 using Thaivisa Connect App No the GPX ZF250 Gross is not equipped with lights, and it cannot be registered. Still all parts from the ZF250 Gross can be used on the ZF250 Enduro (with the logical exception of the lights, but who ever went to a Honda or Kawasaki dealer to buy original light bulbs for his motorcycle).
  11. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    Who is giving out wrong information? Is the Kawasaki KLX250 standard equipped with D.I.D. Wheels? Or are the wheels on the Thai built Kawasaki KLX250 from Union Automotive parts? The wheels on the GPX ZF250 are from Union Autoparts While in some countries in the world a Chinese manufacturer can probably get away with selling fake FOX Racing Shox suspension I doubt that they are capable of doing so in Australia and the USA. So with that information we can assume that the FOX Racing Shox suspension on the GPX ZF250 is real. If I have provided wrong information regarding the GPX ZF250 motorcycle please share that information so that other people following this discussion will also know that... I'm only human and as we all know humans can make mistakes... So I'm very sure that everybody here would like to know if any information I provided is incorrect.
  12. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    Yes, they still sell the ZF250 Cross, which is identical what parts concern... Does anybody know a valid contact number or website or email of the dealer in Bangkok? Thank you. Sure you can find most information at http://www.gpxthailand.com/
  13. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    Sure the GPX ZF250 is not as strong or powerful as a real motocross bike, I never said that. Considering that a Honda CRF250R (cost 310,000 THB) which is the only official motocross bike sold in Thailand with factory (spare-parts) support, you can buy a Yamaha, Suzuki or even a Kawasaki 250cc motocross bike in Thailand but they come without warranty and spare-parts need to be imported every time you're in need of them... Purely theoretical, and completely independent of the brand name of your motocross bike you in more need of spare-parts with a motocross motorcycle than a regular road bike. Also motocross bikes need more service than a regular motorcycle. I once talked to a Honda mechanic who told me that it's possible to completely ruin a CRF250R within a few months just by forgetting to replace the engine oil at the right moment, or replace it with the wrong oil... Regular motorcycles, like the Honda CRF250L are much more service tolerant, if you're a 100 to 500km to late with replacing the engine oil you probably will not have any serious problems. About repairing a MX bike, I not think you can go to a regular Honda dealer and say he can you adjust my values for a Honda CRF250R. Officially you can only get service at the currently ONE Honda Big Wing dealership... Also this Honda Big Wing dealer ship is also the only one who has parts available for the Honda CRF250R... Nation wide dealerships do not apply to MX bikes, how many dealers in Thailand are really capable of fixing a modern big bike... Yes, I fix my bike myself – it would be funny if I let somebody else work on it... Okay changing the tires I let somebody else do, but that is a boring job. Sure the GPX ZF250 is not a 250cc MOTOCROSS motorcycle as a KTM, Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki or one of the other famous MX bike manufacturers. But then I'm not a real motocrosser, and as amateur motocross rider who does trail riding and forest exploring than riding on a dirt track I find the GPX ZF250 more than I can handle. An Australian friend, who did ride MX competition, is capable to set a standard Kawasaki KLX250 as sold in Thailand a round behind on the average Thai amateur competition. GPX is a sponsor of a 250cc MX cup in Thailand, which is open for other 250cc motorcycles sold in Thailand, so far as I know only twice a Kawasaki KLX250 entered the competition and never finished in the top 10. I'm pretty sure that if somebody will enter with a Honda CRF250R he will win without much afford, but again... buying a 310,000 THB bike to ride in an amateur MX competition seems overkill to me... especially wen you can have the same fun for 67,000 THB as this is what a GPX ZF250 Cross cost, okay you're not sure that you win from other GPX ZF250 riders but that is the spirit of the competition... For me personally I not see a competition as my idea of having fun, riding a motorcycle in a sort competition creates commitment, I ride more for having some fun in the weekend, I have friends who have Kawasaki's, some have other brands and lately one have bought a Honda CRF250L. And what are quality parts? My rear suspension is from FOX Racing, who makes the suspension of the motorcycles that you thinking about. I'm sure you going to tell me that a OEM Kawasaki or Honda shock is better than FOX Racing... I'm sure that you'll be surprised if I claim that the quality of the wheels GPX ZF250 uses is the same as they use on the KLX250 or CRF250L, they actual come from the same manufacturer. Then you probably will try to tell me the frame of the Kawasaki KLX250 is remarkable better, for that Kawasaki should really improve it's welding equipment. Actual the Thai build KLX250 holds the unofficial record of having the highest amount of recalls for any Kawasaki product – of which most are frame/chassis related. Actually on many MX forums people complain about the build quality of the Thai KLX250... Personally I don't believe that Kawasaki makes a bad product... To make it clear again, I compare the GPX ZF250 purely on off-road riding, if I did more on-road riding I probably didn't bought a GPX ZF250 – also probably I would also not ride a 250cc, for some adventure riding with more than 70 percent tarmac I would probably take a Kawasaki Versys as that bike has excellent value-for-money if it comes to adventure riding... If I was planning a trip to Mongolia with Bangkok as my starting location, I would talk to a BMW dealer. If I had less money I would visit Yamaha (Triumph if I was English)... P.S. You know what is really funny, on Thai language motorcycle forums you have much less the discussions of my bike is better than your bike. And with the discussions that actually happen the two parties that discus the subject actual have the two motorcycles. On Thaivisa forum, most discussions by people who say that bike is crap never seen the bike or even touched it... and never sit on it when the engine was in operation... The truth is that the GPX motocross community in Thailand is the biggest off-road group in the country. And 99% of this people are having fun.
  14. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    Yes, they still sell the ZF250 Cross, which is identical what parts concern...
  15. Richard-BKK

    Gpx Zf250 Enduro Motorcycle

    Well, if getting away faster at traffic lights is an indication of being a better motorcycle, I need to say that a standard Kawasaki KLX250 is not very high on that list. For myself it's not a big supprise that the GPX ZF250 is faster away from standstill, the 250cc engine of the GPX ZF250 Enduro is identical to the ZF250 Gross – which is a real motocross bike. The ZF250 has more power than a Kawasaki KLX250, D-Tracker 250 or Honda CRF250L, but it has less power than a Kawasaki KX250F or a Honda CRF250R... the last two are real motocross bikes... And while the GPX ZF250 is superior if compared to pure power production, the Kawasaki KLX250 and the Honda CRF250L are far more superior in fuel economics and riding comfort. While the front forks and the FOX Racing rear suspension on the GPX ZF250 is very adjustable, it's still a pure off-road suspension. For road and light off-road riding the suspension of a KLX250 or CRF250L is better suited. For me a better motorcycle is a combination of many aspects of a motorcycle, and for me in combination of what I have paid for the GPX ZF250 with the amount of cost for service and modifications I paid for in the last year of use I can say that the GPX ZF250 is a very good value for its money. The definition of a 'better motorcycle' is in the eye of the beholder, if you ride from A to B on a pave rural road on a daily base a Kawasaki KLX250 would probably be the better bike. If you want to explore some of Thailand's forgotten rural forest roads and climb some hills or mountains in the weekend than a GPX ZF250 is probably the better machine, of course a Honda CRF250R would be a much better choice but that one comes with a 310,000 THB price ticket. (so with value for money in mind I believe the GPX ZF250 is the better choice). And while I also have received the information that the GPX ZF250 Enduro is no longer available, they still sell the GPX ZF250 Gross... For my motivations why I bought the GPX ZF250, I wanted a motorcycle to replace my Honda CRF450X. I love to do some off-road riding in some of my weekends. And while I used my Honda CRF450X also to do some Adventure/touring I bought another machine to do that. So a not-so-expensive off-road motorcycle did fit perfect in my needs... My original plan was to buy an off-road motorcycle for around 100,000 THB and use it for about 2-years, pure off-road motorcycle (no matter what brand name) are not famous for there long life. When I was looking for a secondhand 250cc off-road motorcycle in my set budget I was not able to find anything that in my eyes would survive another 2-years (without major investment). Than I was introduced to GPX, and decided to look into what they offered. To keep things short, I did a test ride, I checked some numbers (on parts costs etc...), and that all convinced me that I could not go wrong with buying a ZF250 Enduro (for example a new fully functional ZF250 engine costs around the same price as a Kawasaki KX250 cylinder assembly). I have 5 months to go until I own the GPX ZF250 Enduro 2-years, and the motorcycle still looks, rides, and feels like it did the first day. (okay I changed the tires, and here and there I have some scratches on the paint work and plastics, but that happens if you ride in forests). I didn't needed to buy an additional engine, also until now the bike did not needed any unexpected parts. Actual I'm pretty confident that I make it to 2-years ownership without any serious problems.
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