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About TerraplaneGuy

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  1. Just to clarify: I'm not (and I don't think anyone who has posted is) in any way suggesting avoiding paying tax that is required by law. When I mention scrutiny by the Revenue Department I'm thinking of inquiries, reporting obligations, red tape etc. that will just be an inconvenience for those of us who don't actually have any taxable income in Thailand and therefore don't intend to file returns. If getting a tax ID has triggered this kind of red tape, that's the sort of "downside" I'd like to hear about.
  2. Maestro, thanks for keeping this thread on topic. Jayboy: I take your point that some foreign income is taxable when brought into Thailand but that is true whether or not you get an ID number. As you suggest, the practical question is, would getting an ID number create a risk that the Thai Revenue Dept. might scrutinize you (even if you don't file a tax return). So far in this thread we've only seen one post, by Briggsy, where someone was called in for an interview as a result of having an ID number. But in his case he had filed a return and claimed a tax refund and he indicated that was why they scrutinized him. So the question remains: has anyone - who has not filed a tax return - had any scrutiny from Revenue simply because they had a tax ID number?
  3. Great. Where is your local office?
  4. Thanks. I'm not a U.S. citizen but I have accounts there so have to deal with their tax system. As for the lack of postings on this issue, the U.S. has tightened up just in the last year or so on this. They did not used to require a foreign (e. g. Thai) tax ID number to get the benefits of the treaty, you just had to prove you were resident here. I've been doing it for years like that but now they demand an ID number. So it's possible that we will be hearing more questions like mine as people with U.S. accounts discover the new requirement.
  5. I'm the OP. As mentioned before, I have no Thai income but I'd be getting a Thai ID because the U.S. demands it if I want to claim a reduced withholding tax rate on U.S. source income under the Thai-U.S. tax treaty. So there is a real benefit to me in the U.S. if I get the Thai ID but I'm asking whether there are any downsides here in Thailand that I might not be aware of.
  6. Thanks. 1. May I ask how old you are? I'm 63, presumably not "working age" in their view. 2. About the tax return, I assume they mail it to the address you gave when you got your ID number (which I understand is on the card they give you). So if you change address, is there an obligation to go back to the Revenue office and tell them? I imagine it wouldn't make a difference if (as in my case) you have no Thai income and won't be filing the report anyway, so I probably wouldn't bother to update my address. Anyone have experience with this?
  7. Has any non-Thai applied for the tax ID number at the Bang Rak Revenue office near Silom or any other Bangkok office? Did they require anything other than a passport? I'm a tenant so no tabien baan. I hope I don't have to go to Immigration for a residency letter. I could bring my lease if that would help. Btw please can we keep the posts here on topic? It's about any downside to getting a TIN and the procedure for getting one. If people want to discuss tax refunds etc. that would be a good topic for a separate string. Thanks :)
  8. I'm OP - right, I will owe no tax in Thailand. Getting the number is strictly for purposes of claiming reduced tax in the U.S under the treaty.
  9. Hi All, I understand that the Thai taxpayer ID number is a 13-digit number that we can get at the Thai revenue office. My question is, if we don't have any Thai income and therefore don't owe Thai taxes, is there any downside to getting this number? Will it put us "in the tax system" in Thailand in a way that will generate red tape, filing requirements, etc.? My understanding is that as long as we have no income generated in Thailand (my situation), we don't need to file a Thai tax return, but does having the number create any requirements? Practical questions: To get the number, I see you need your passport and possibly a house registration book. If we are renting and so don't have such a book, is it a problem? How long does it take to get the number or is it generated while you wait at the office? Background: I'd be getting the number for U.S. tax reasons. To claim the benefit of the Thai-U.S. tax treaty to reduce withholding tax on U.S. income, we have to file an IRS Form W-8BEN. It requires entry of the Thai taxpayer identification number. Thanks! TG
  10. Has anyone actually been refused an extension because there was not enough (or any) activity showing in the bank account holding the 800K?
  11. Aliceia guitars.

    So the wood combination is the same as a Les Paul. Since it's so heavy I guess he didn't do any kind of weight relief (chambering etc.)? I'm curious cause I just bought a 2013 LP Standard with "modern weight relief". Still fairly heavy but not like the old ones. Sounds like you have a great collection!
  12. Aliceia guitars.

    That is an amazingly beautiful guitar! What kind of wood is it? And how about the pickups, what are they?
  13. Aliceia guitars.

    Hi does Aliceia also sell amplifiers?
  14. I'm not disputing that there may have been some fines, given the inconsistency between offices in interpreting the rules, and the thousands of expats coming and going. But I don't believe I've seen any actual reports by people who've been fined. Without direct reports it's hard to get a picture of how significant a problem this is. I'd like to hear from expats who themselves have been fined for not filing a TM30 and what the circumstances were: which office, how much was the fine, was it on re-entry, on extension of stay, etc. Anybody care to report a direct experience? Thanks, TG
  15. I think some expats are creating problems for themselves by over-zealous attempts to comply with "requirements" that may not even be requirements. If you are not expressly asked for a TM30 why submit it? We've seen in this thread that the law on this point is open to interpretation, but the fact is Chaeng Wattana and at least some other offices continue not to require a TM30 from expats, either on extending a stay or on re-entry. If your local office has said they need one, OK file it (although better to first escalate a notch and see if the supervisor insists or not). But don't volunteer it if you're not asked. It's just likely to cause further confusion and headaches. Yes, there have been one or two isolated reports of expats being threatened with fines if they don't file a TM30. But I don't think I've yet seen a single report of someone actually being fined.