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  1. On another forum I saw a statement along the lines of; "Most experts now seems to agree that it was the freighter that was overtaking the destroyer". www.navytimes.com was quoted as source.' ' In various news casts I have seen some interviews with/statements by a chap referred to as USN Vice Adm Joseph Aucoin. Apparently some kind of boss related to the US Navy Pacific fleet. He comes out very strongly stating that every single detail related to this mishap will be published. Nothing will be hidden or classified. Interesting. Hope he is right.
  2. You would probably have to look very hard to find such a stipulation. But it is commonly understood and accepted around the world that customers/buyers/consumers have to settle the bill. If they dont have exact amount and seller doesn't have change they must pay upwards, unless there is a stipulation that seller is obligated to provide change. In some countries taxi drivers are by law required to be able to provide change to such and such bills, I doubt, however, that that is the case in LoS.
  3. Yes! I have problems with mold and everything. I have tried many different paints in LoS. This Jotun Jotaguard 82 is the only paint I am pleased with. I use it as primer and I use it as top coat.
  4. Above I mistakenly referred to another accident (a weird one) with a US Navy vessel and a freighter. It was actually a US Coast Guard cutter by the name Cuyahoga. The CO misinterpreting spotted navigation lights of the other vessel. The misinterpretation ending, on a clear evening with excellent visibility, with Cuyahoga being ploughed down by the freighter and sinking rapidly, 11 fatalities. Some relevant links below if of interest. I find this accident quite interesting in the sense that it demonstrates how terribly wrong things can go due to rather silly mistakes, combined with bad BRM (bridge resource management). The book Normal Accidents discusses and analyses a host of serious accidents and points to why they had to happen. (the space shuttle that exploded right after take off, Three Mile Island Meltdown, the Korean passenger airliner that was shot down over Russia etc etc and a host of marine accidents) Links to some excerpts below. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Cuyahoga_(WIX-157) BOOKS RE ACCIDENTS: https://books.google.co.th/books?id=g66J6Vzq6EYC&pg=PA216&lpg=PA216&dq=Cuyahoga+normal+accidents&source=bl&ots=Wq6HuoJjtx&sig=ER2KVElH1SAIvH7SimYndDst9lw&hl=no&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjup4WbwtDUAhXML48KHUPRAkMQ6AEINTAC#v=onepage&q=Cuyahoga normal accidents&f=false https://books.google.co.th/books?id=CGIaNc3F1MgC&pg=PA241&lpg=PA241&dq=Cuyahoga+normal+accidents&source=bl&ots=9Eu-34po-T&sig=LRR_f_IXWGE7Q7qdradiqNscaUc&hl=no&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjup4WbwtDUAhXML48KHUPRAkMQ6AEIWDAH#v=onepage&q=Cuyahoga%20normal%20accidents&f=false http://bowles-langley.com/wp-content/files_mf/humanerrorandmarinesafety26.pdf http://www.encyclopedia.com/science/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/normal-accidents NEWS: http://www.gangplank.com/documents/GPMNewsletterOct2008.pdf https://www.proptalk.com/the-sinking-of-the-uscgc-cuyahoga/
  5. I am using Jotun Jotaguard 82. It comes in grey, brown and black. Not really a primer but pretty good for preserving wood. And protects against anything that grows. I use it on ply, softwood and hardwood.
  6. Dont think you will make a decent profit on putting your satang on human error Your outlandish theory will get better odds
  7. (too late to edit so I add a comment in stead) I think you will find that today most commercial ships Crystal-size and much smaller ones and the real big ones are operated by 1 man daytime (the navigator) and (hopefully) 2 men night time (navigator and lookout). Many are sloppy with the lookout. Many bog down the lookout with some other tasks to do each watch so that he has to leave the bridge now and then. Some ships, some, will have a lookout daytime in very busy waters. You can safely assume that people at the helm is not common. Steering is done by autopilot. (many navigators will argue that they prefer autopilots to people at the helm, autopilots are pretty good)
  8. 'Maps they have, but maybe not paper maps, many use electronic maps in place of paper maps. A so called ECDIS system. ECDIS don't come cheap but a lot of manpower is saved in that you don't need to keep a large number of paper maps up to date anymore. In stead of correcting navigational maps the relevant navigator can be bogged down with other tasks that distracts him from navigating safely. The Crystal is not really a very big ship, its a 40 000 tonner. 30 meters and a bit wide 220 meters and a bit long. (Probably tailored for nipping through the old Panama Canal.) Add another 100 meters to the length and another 20 odd meters to the width then you are up there with the really big ships today bulk (dry and wet) carriers and the big Chinese and Danish container ships. I think you will find today that most commercial ships Crystal-size and much smaller ones and the real big one are operated by 1 man daytime (the navigator) and (hopefully) 2 men night time (navigato
  9. The freighter veering left while being overtaken by the destroyer sort of matches the collision marks on both ships. (maybe the marks on the destroyer should have been over a longer stretch of the hull if the above was the case) If such veering left took the destroyer by surprise the ships must have been pretty close during the overtaking, much too close for comfort to put it that way. Some years back there was another accident US Navy ship / freighter - overtaking, it happened in the waterways upstream of Chessapeeke(?) Bay. This accident is described and discussed in a book called "Normal Accidents". Worth looking at, it describes how incredibly wrong things can go on board a navy vessel. This accident was just weird weird.
  10. Unfortunately what you say is not uncommon, and frequently combined with navigator's weak understanding of the inherent limitations of the electronic gear they rely on
  11. edin Navy ships running without steaming lights in busy commercial shipping lanes is just plain stupid and a recipee for problems. If that is what US navy vessels are doing they need more training and better understanding of safe ship operation. PI freighter, I'd guess one man on the bridge. Maybe, maybe 2, no helmsman but maybe a lookout. Recently finished loading and recently having left previous port, navigator probably pretty tired due to lack of sleep. How can such accidents happen? Lack of situation awareness and gross misjudgements. Unhealthy working environments. Happens often in various situations. Also in navies. Haven't we all seen or experienced the following; Where are my glasses, they were here on the table a minute ago, the guy looking around the desk, lifting the papers, looking under the desk for the glasses looking in the chair in which he was sitting, cant find the <deleted>' glasses. Wife; they are on your nose. And there they are. This happens not rarely - lack of situation awareness. Where is my bleedin' pen? Left it here 3 minutes ago, I am sure. Not here, not under the table, not in the chair. Christ what happened. Wife; there it is, smack in the middle of the desk, right in front of you. Situation loss. Brain not registering what the eye observe. Happens all the time, also in navies. Navy vessels have relatively small bridges compared to commercial vessels. The bridge on navy vessels are more often than not packed with people. Especially when getting close to harbour. Not a good working environment for the navigator. He can hardly move freely around and will have difficulties looking out of the windows, radar and high tech is fine but eyes and ears are still very very good navigational aids. If the navigator was a young junior officer. Would he ask for help/advice if he started to feel that the situation might get out of control? I would suggest that the navy working environment doesn't encourage and invite that, he would probably try and sort it out himself. If the navigator was an old salt and experienced senior officer. Who would qestion his doings before its too late? I'd suggest that navy working environment does not invite such questioning. This old/young right/wrong problem is an area where airlines are struggling, but airlines are doing better than navies, 'cause airlines is a newer business than several hundred years old navies. ' I have no problem "seeing" how such an accident could happen. As to training and professionalism. In many navies around the world the navigators are well educated but have little experience. The cost of running naval vessels results in the vessels spending long periods of time in harbour/home base in order to save money. Often navy officers are not very good navigators and not good ship handlers, they never get the necessary experience. Sometimes it can be just heartbreaking looking at a naval vessel berthing, they can be totally inept at that.
  12. Navy ships running without steaming lights in busy commercial shipping lanes is just plain stupid and a recipee for problems. If that is what US navy vessels are doing they need more training and better understanding of ship handling. PI freighter, I'd guess one man on the bridge. Maybe, maybe 2, no helmsman but maybe a lookout. Rece
  13. Well, what kind I say. Guess I join Burger King and say "Have it your way". The house I stay in and the house to the left of me and the house to the right of me have no earth. No earth by the main switches/fuses. No earth supplied with the main supply cable, No earth in/by/of the pole that supplies me and a few houses around. May be some earthing close to the transformer, dunno. Regarding earth problems at the neighbours popping up in my house: I have years of personal and practical experience with this happening. Not from Thailand. But in a 230V power distribution system with local grounding. In a time when most piping was done with cast iron pipes rather than "plastic", which means ample conductivity to bath rooms and kitchens.
  14. I see from the news cut above and from some entries further up that the freighter is referred to as a 29 000 tonner, it isn't. According to the owner of the freighter and the data recorded by Marine Traffic the DW (dead weight) of the freighter is about 40 000 tons. (LS (light ship weight) was not given and is not particularly relevant as the freighter was not in light ship condition.) The 29 000 figure refers to the freighter's gross tonnage. Gross tonnage is a measure of volume, not weight or force, and is mainly used for calculating kind and size of crew to run the ship safely, calculation of harbour fees, price of nipping through the Suez canal and the like. Not particularly relevant here. 29 000 or 40 000, they both hurt if smacked in your face I read some other place that some of the missing sailors have been recovered from the rooms behind the damaged hull of the destroyer. It wasn't stated but I'd assume not alive. Terrible way to go.
  15. remains to be seen seems everybody assume the navy ship screwed up, maybe it did, but fine little is known re facts so far re navy and career; many will remember the Ex. Valdez oil tanker that grounded up north in the US and let out a few pints of oil as a result. that incident was a major news event for a long long time don't remember what happened to the skipper following the accident but some 2-4 years ago I read a story about him, he was then an instructor at a US Navy training establishment for navy navigators.