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  1. Paying taxes and donating to a non-governmental agency (NGO) aren't quite the same thing. With the possible exception of UNICEF, I doubt any of the organizations you've listed operate in Thailand. The claims in that picture seem to stretch credulity anyway.
  2. Suradit69

    Re-entry Permit requirements

    What "visa" would someone reapply for in Thailand if he was under consideration for an extension of stay?
  3. Your stay in Thailand is based on the permission to stay given by immigrations when you enter the country. In the case of an O-A visa if you enter the country just before the visa expires you'll still be given a permission to stay for one year. Once the visa expires it can't be used to enter the country, but you can remain in Thailand for the year until the permission to stay expires. Another case of someone failing to understand the difference between a visa and permission to stay in the Thai context.
  4. Suradit69


    Actually the money goes to the cleaning ladies. Our building employs its own management and they are doing a great job, so even if it went to them that would be fine. We don't use some external management company or consider the people working here here to be the enemy. Sorry if if that disappoints you or is not your experience.
  5. Of course for many people the clock is ticking if they may have to show actual deposits in a Thai bank for each of the 12 months preceding their next extension. I just did my extension in December using the US embassy letter, so I'm good until January 2020. I plan to put Baht 800,000 in my account and watch how things develop, but if I were going the Baht 65,000 in a Thai bank each month route, that would mean I need to start doing that this month. For people who fall into this category, you would need to start implementing the monthly deposits immediately even if your next extension is a year off. No time left for waiting to see what may happen.
  6. I assume you mean it's a trivial amount. Not quite sure what this means. I agree that for most people here that depositing Baht 65,000 a month into a Thai bank or dumping Baht 800,000 into a Thai bank shouldn't be a major problem. But there are undoubtedly people who have stayed here for 10, maybe 20 years, whose resources have dwindled and who may just be managing to meet the Baht 65,000 a month but need to keep some of their money at home for other expenses. If you're in your 80's and have always complied with Thai Immigrations requirements, these changes could put you up against the wall. And many of those people no longer have a fall-back plan. For some of us it's just an annoying change that we have to adjust to, but for some flexibility may no longer exist.
  7. Yes, that is an important distinction that, for some people, is creating a stumbling block. Having a regular income of Baht 65,000 a month is one thing. Depositing it all in a Thai bank was not a requirement and is something different from having a "provable" income of at least that amount.
  8. And as I said above, I know of someone who mistakenly used the "blank affidavit" some years ago and was told by the consular officer it would not be accepted by Thai Immigrations. He was handed the specific affidavit form and told to use that. Of course things can change and obviously do change but I expect, given their announcement, the embassy would be reluctant to try anything that circumvented the spirit, if not the letter, of their announcement that they would not be issuing income affidavits to support extension applications to Thai Immigrations. Although they do state: But that's still an affidavit and they put in quotes "certify" as if that's not really what it amounts to.
  9. He can certainly ask that people stick to the topic stated in the O/P so that there's a chance something useful will come from the discussion.
  10. At one point some years ago when I was getting an income verification letter at the embassy someone had used a blank affidavit for that purpose instead of the specific affidavit that the embassy provided. The consular officer said it would not be accepted by Thai immigrations. So, as you say, even if they'd sign off on something, they'd need to ask Thai immigrations to accept it and, given the current stand off between some embassies and TI, that may be a nonstarter.
  11. And they mention that for countries who don't deal with Apostillies, https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/internl-judicial-asst/authentications-and-apostilles/office-of-authentications.html But whether that would be something that the US embassy in Bangkok would do remains debatable. Possibly you need to email the question to the Citizen Services section of the embassy in Bangkok. Make it as specific as you can or you'll get a generic answer. Also the embassy is at least partially affected by the shut down. At the top of the page they say updates to their website will be limited until the shutdown is resolved. Who knows what else may be affected.
  12. I think the word we're aiming for is Apostille. The US Embassy in Bangkok had the link I provided above to the State Dept rules because those are the rules they must follow. But there is the caveat that some services are only available in the US:
  13. Yes, and that is why some embassies have stopped issuing income documents ... because they were not willing to or able to verify/prove the income, which is what Thai immigrations expected them to do. Thus the new police order requiring/allowing people to demonstrate/prove they can shift Baht 65,000 a month into a Thai bank account to obtain a retirement extension. Those embassies unwilling to satisfy Thai immigrations requirement that monthly income has been proved/verified by them are forcing the nationals of their countries who wish to show monthly income to actually deposit Baht 65,000 into a Thai bank account or to abandon that approach by putting Baht 800,000 into the Thai bank account for at least 3 months prior to applying for an extension of stay. The whole point of this thread was that the O/P knew of some US embassies in South America who did verify/prove monthly Social Security income for Americans retired in those countries and he was trying to see if the US Embassy in Bangkok could at least prove/verify the Social Security payments and that maybe Thai immigrations would accept that proof at least when using the combination method. Immigrations does want proof or evidence of income from an embassy as one way of satisfying the financial requirements. That is something the US embassy and others have not done and are unwilling to do.
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    In our condo building, on each floor, there are separate bins for common household trash, for plastic and for glass. Used to be one for paper, but I think they were particularly looking for newspapers which have become rare. Each bin is labeled in English and Thai. It amazes me how many people can't be bothered to separate those things. Just dump anything in any bin.