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  1. Patong2

    Kamala to Nai Thon - Lunch spots?

    Went up there on Saturday for a late lunch. Excellent view and delightful food with some unusual dishes. Just the sort of thing we are looking for. We had 2 french dishes, Tongue done in an exquisite sauce and Bone Marrow which was a unique taste and thoroughly enjoyable. We are definitely going back to try some other dishes including a Thai dish or two. Not easy to find so thanks to Stuarty for giving us the heads up
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    Kamala to Nai Thon - Lunch spots?

    I know you mean well Badrabbit but we get enough McDonalds on our 3 month road trip in the USA each year. To heck with the food, they've always got a reasonably clean and safe toilet.
  3. Enjoy the drive up the coast from Patong to Nai Thon but I wondered if anyone has some favourite lunch spots they would like to share. We enjoy Thai and European food and love somewhere with a view if possible of people or scenery. Any suggestions?
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    Patong - The Wake

    Enjoy Wine Connection in both Chalong and Jung Ceylon occasionally Food's consistent and pretty good value. Try the Duck breast or the Tuna Salad, both with sauces to my taste and for B30 they also have nice bread which can be hard to find in Phuket. The Dutch Bitter cocoa is something else I enjoy.
  5. You obviously have a problem with comprehension or are deliberately obfuscating Sherriff Mims was talking about criminals being held in his jail. The Quote is here SHERIFF MIMS: Thank you, Mr. President. You know, sheriffs in California are now in an untenable position when it comes to trying to figure out — now, we have state law, we have federal laws, and here we are stuck in the middle. Sheriffs, especially, because most of us run our county jails. When there became a legal challenge to the 48-hour holds for ICE, it was very frustrating for us. So what I did is I invited ICE to put their officers in my jails so they’re able to do their work. We didn’t have the staffing to be able to help figure out who they wanted to talk to or didn’t. I said, come on in, work with our people to keep our community safe. Two weeks later, Mr. President, Kate Steinle was murdered. Now, I wasn’t the only sheriff to do that. Sheriff Youngblood did, Sheriff Christianson. And it was perfect — because we didn’t have to take our time, with our staff, to do anything. ICE was in there doing their work in a safe, controlled, environment. And then, the initiatives started happening — the TRUST Act, the TRUTH Act, and finally, SB 54, the Values Act. And that is causing us all kinds of turmoil. So here we are, stuck in the middle, trying to decide. We have federal law, we have state law. And that’s why I welcomed Attorney General Sessions’s lawsuit, because that will provide us the clarity that we need and direction that we need. What do we do? Because here we are. And I appreciated Mr. Homan and ICE. We had a great relationship; we still do. But now ICE is the only law enforcement agency that cannot use our databases to find the bad guys. They cannot come in and talk to people in our jail, unless they reach a certain threshold. They can’t do all kinds of things that other law enforcement agencies can do. And it’s really put us in a very bad position. THE PRESIDENT: It’s a disgrace. Okay? It’s a disgrace. SHERIFF MIMS: It’s a disgrace. THE PRESIDENT: And we’re suing on that, and we’re working hard, and I think it will all come together, because people want it to come together. It’s so ridiculous. The concept that we’re even talking about is ridiculous. We’ll take care of it, Margaret. We’ll win. SHERIFF MIMS: Thank you. There could be an MS-13 member I know about — if they don’t reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it.
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    Patong - The Wake

    Another good observation. It certainly has quietened down in the last 2 weeks and without the Chinese it would be deserted. Hard to see how some businesses do survive. There is another makeshift area of market type restaurants being opened at the inland end of Soi Sansabai and I wonder how anyone can think they can succeed at the moment.
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    Phuket property glut?

    Interesting you should quote Sugar Palms, I certainly wasn't aware of it and had a look at the position. It is neither in the centre of Phuket Town, nor near Central so why do people buy or want to rent there? (The first question we ask when looking at an investment) I am fairly familiar with other parts of the Island and have had spent months around Khon Khaew near the British International School. I have seen reasonable quality places built and real crap built and 2 years down the track, many of both types, empty and I can only wonder how the body corp gets paid. To me, it is an experts market and good luck to beginners in that. In our home country we joke about looking at a 100 houses before we buy (ie visit) and it was not far from the truth. And we have still made mistakes. You need to look at a lot to get the real feel for the market. I am not looking to be speculative, have enough property survive most events, and am happy to sit and let my portfolio appreciate in a stable environment. As for shares, just gambling You cannot control the way the executives reward themselves, and many 18 month managers abound and destroy the goodwill in companies. Same in most countries, so why would Thailand be any different. Again a market for people much cleverer than I. As Thomas Stanley put it in his enlightening book "The Millionaire Next Door" you don't need to take too many risks to get comfortable.
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    Phuket property glut?

    I share similar views as Xylophone but from a different perspective. We have been coming at least twice a year to Phuket for 20 years and now spend much of the year here. As active rental owners and investors in our own country over that period of time we have looked very carefully at the property market here as we have in parts of the US. In the 90's there were some real tempting bargain prices as far as new builds were concerned in comparison to what we were paying at home, but the difficulty of knowing all the nuances involved such as legal issues, how disputes are resolved, tenancy issues etc and on top of all that, not speaking Thai, put it in the too hard basket. It's hard enough being a successful landlord in your country of origin, where you know the ins and outs (or at least think you do). We have never regretted the decision and have just spent 3 days showing a fellow significant investor the places around Patong that have never been finished, fallen down hillsides, barely occupied and some just abandoned. Phuket property as .gamble may be OK, but it doesn't meet our successful, albeit conservative criteria. But neither does the sharemarkets. But we love the place and are happy to pay our landlord our rent each year.
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    Phuket property glut?

    Xylophone, Mysterion and Thaistocks, thanks for the contributions to this thread. Very interesting and thought provoking and well argued on all sides. You should all take a bow.
  10. Have had both knees done left one, 12 months ago. Amazed at how good and painfree the recovery has been. This morning did 8.5km walk along Patong Beach and halfway up the hill at the south end of the beach by Amari Coral, this, 12 months after the op. Mine done in NZ and the 2 things to get right 1. the surgeon, there are hugely different success rates between them 2. now the technology has advanced and my replacements were laser aligned and that apparently gives much better chance of perfection. If doing in Thailand ensure the hospital has the laser alignment method available and try to talk to someone who has had the op and find out the success or otherwise. Do the stationary bike thing and other therapy it really helps with you recovery Good luck with what you decide
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    When do we get a Fair Go ?

    Have a look to see the connnection between who controls your water supply and the water truck delivery company. Amazing in Patong, the water trucks are all new and dripping with add on mirrors etc, there must be money in delivering water and even more if you can persuade the supply authority to reduce the flow.
  12. Amazing how little regard for their lives so many stupid pedestrians have. This new attempt to make it safer to cross a very busy road in Patong is ignored by hordes who are too impatient to wait 60 secs or so. How there are not injuries all the time is only due to the skill of Thai drivers who manage to avoid these fools. Last night in heavy rain and they were pushing kids in push chairs out in front of traffic when the vehicles had a green light. One idiot Farang crossed against the light and abused a Tuk tuk driver who had a green light who nearly hit him. The Tuk tuk driver got out, chased him up Soi Sansabai and landed a few good punches. Hopefully knocked some sense into the idiot. Pity he didn't deal to the two Chinese riding their hire bike up Ratuchit Rd the wrong way at 11pm last night.
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    Patong - The Wake

    Having a few rental properties in our home country and visiting Phuket regularly each year for 20 years, we naturally looked at investing here. It was cheap then and we considered buying seriously. Decided against it. The chaos of the legal system means it is a prayer and a hope that it goes OK. As an atheist I am left only with hope. To get repairs etc done without a Thai spouse is difficult if you don't have the language. The workmanship of most buildings is appalling, drive anywhere on the Island and you see examples of decrepit or half completed buildings. Someone lost money on them. Thankfully it wasn't me. There are success stories and I know two close friends who have done well, lifestyle wise but I am certain their money would have been better invested in their home countries. Both have properties that are a cut above the average in quality. One has been trying to sell a couple of properties for several years but has decided to keep them as rentals and is currently getting a good return because of location, but he would have preferred the capital back but the loss would be too much for him. I'm firmly with Xylophone, all investing is risky but this is a very very risky place to invest. I love to hear the success stories but are very saddened by what I see. We have chosen to be long term renters.
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    On the way to buy Land

    Very informative thread with good information Thanks to all who contributed
  15. "it's worth noting that former President Obama called the African country of Libya a “shit show” just two years ago. The comments were recorded in an interview with The Atlantic. The wide-ranging interview was based on Obama's foreign policy" So why the double standard? President Obama said it in a public interview President Trump said it in a private meeting.