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  1. Egyptian deported for 10-year overstay

    It was not difficult really. If you are not causing problems I think most Thai either do not know or care about your visa status. If however business/property matters are tied in then maybe a different picture. A bank account was set up in the days when an exempt entry was enough, phone sim's could be bought at every 7/11. hotels never really made a fuss but I tended to stay in Thai level hotels (amazing what can be waived and discount obtained if an offer to pay cash up front!). Domestic flights no check of any visa. In 11 years (and indeed since) have never had been asked by the BIB for my passport nor had any legal problems. After a while I did not even think about it - that is until the news emerged of new rules to be introduced and then with great trepidation, I bit the bullet and surrendered at Survanabhumi airport - returning 4 days later visa exempt. Since then have kept my visa status clean. But those that have said that those on overstays must have been always been looking over their shoulder or avoiding places that was not really my experience. However, once cleared there was a tremendous sense of relief. At the time I shared my story I was encouraging others on overstay to legalise their status before the banning rules came into force and to be fair immigration allowed a very long window between when these rules were first mooted (2014) and when they came in (2016) to allow a lot of us to sort out our situation here.
  2. Egyptian deported for 10-year overstay

    I overstayed 11 years but cleared the overstay in 2014 before the bans came into play. Additionally, my situation was also different in that I surrendered at the airport hence was not blacklisted and just fined 20k. I suspect that out in the countryside there may be farangs who have many times longer overstays but who stay under the radar. But to explicitly answer your question a visa agent that I used said that I had been the longest he had known of until a year or so when a H-K national cleared his with a 15 year overstay. The days of being able to simply financially settle the matter on surrendering ended in 2016. Deportation, however, was always available for those caught.
  3. It is the deliberate ploy not to give advance warning in case it would negatively impact on tourist arrivals...much better to hit them with it once they are here and have no choice!
  4. I agree with these points. However don't get too scared about random checks as they are more common on routes to land borders rather than in Bangkok. Although they can have occasional spikes in such searches in Bangkok, both during my 11 year overstay nor since have I ever been subjected to see my passport. And I was never restricted in the places where I spent time, bars, restaurants clubs etc. So while you should be mindful and keep a low profile I suspect that you have enough worries without any additional ones that are quite slight.
  5. Correct. I cleared it in August 2014 when it was first mooted that new overstay regulations were about to be introduced. In the event, they were not actually implemented for another 2 years but in the summer of 2014 it was being openly discussed by immigration and in the media - I took the hint and cleared my situation and have been back in Thailand since then with appropriate visas (my overstay was never a problem in securing new visas or on entering back into the Kingdom). My point though is that I found the immigration officers very decent and remarkably reasonable given the length of my overstay, thus I think that the op should have no problem on exiting so long as she has the requisite funds and given that she has no desire to return the ban is inconsequential for her.
  6. Even with an 11 year overstay the immigration at the airport did not ask how had I survived in Thailand. They wanted the 20k and only after the formalities finished did they really pursue how I hard been spending my time. Due to the severe length of the overstay the senior immigration officer oversaw the process. At that time I enquired if I was banned and he said I could come back the following day if I wished. They are human beings and just doing a job. Regrettably now the ban will be enforced but as you are planning to return that is of no consequence to you. The process takes about 20 minutes, dress conservatively, make sure you have the TM6 card and the 20k and be polite and you should have no problem.
  7. My experience with immigration on paying the overstay fine at Bangkok airport was that the priority was the formalities, Tm6, paperwork and paying the fine. Until those had been dealt with the officers were (quite rightly in my case given the length, the overstay) ,extremely cold if not hostile. My impression was that simply they were doing a job within the bureaucracy of the department. So long as one complied with the rules for exiting the country then that was all they were concerned about irrespective of the fact of having failed to adhere to the rules for staying legitimately in the country. My point being that if you cause the process to not proceed according to the set rules at the border either expect a hostile response or significant/costly expenses. Once I had paid for my overstay the officers were quite chilled and curious as the official aspects had been dealt with. I think that having the 20k at the airport is a non-negotiable. Whether that is the case at a land border I don't know but suspect not, only perhaps for some leniency on the ban and not on the money.
  8. I would strongly caution against this advice. Saying that she has nothing to lose is really quite a dangerous presumption...she could easily face a spell in the IDC and thus lose her ticket home to boot if she rolls up without the 20k fine money.
  9. I agree with UJ but at your own risk. There are many who have worked and are working as teachers at really low pay (250 is appalling). However, just keep your wits about you and get out as soon as you can. Given that you are not intending to come back then this at least partly mitigates the downside risk.
  10. I had an 11-year overstay and considered the options. It became very evident that clearing it at the airport was the right way to go paying the 20k rather than facing the IDC. I think you too have now reached that same conclusion. Being deported rather than voluntarily surrendering can also have consequences further down the line when applying to enter other countries. Some, for example, will explicitly ask whether you have been deported from any other country and by leaving through the airport and paying the fine "voluntarily" you avoid this potential future issue should you wish to travel to say the US or Australia. Fortunately, I cleared my overstay before the regulations came into force so was able to fly back into Suvarnabhumi 4 days after I paid the fine anyway I will wish you luck.
  11. Having seen the video I was amazed at the patience of the police officer. While I did not understand what the little punk was saying, it did not take long to assess what his body language suggested and when he spat at the policeman he was lucky that he was not knocked to the ground. I suspect that because he was in his territory with his mates to hand and watch he was acting the big "I am". The mother was just as disgusting. Before mocking the policeman have a look at the video.
  12. What date was that? I travelled in on 11/09 and the screening and snake system were in use. Perhaps immigration had had enough of having to use Google translate. It is now more efficient as I can hardly imagine them dismantling the pathways having set them up. Although TIT!
  13. Then it is good that it is now in Don Mueang as per the topic title :-)
  14. The "snake" system has been in place for departures for a while. However for arrivals was not in place (at least it wasn't 90 days ago when I last came through). Also pre-screening that the TM6 forms had been filled in properly before allowing individuals to join the immigration queue was/is a great additional measure as a significant number were not being allowed to enter in to the immigration arrivals hall until their paperwork had been verified thus eliminating undue delays at the counters with individuals filling them in at the actual arrivals immigration desks. They were mumblings by those who were not allowed to proceed until they showed their completed forms but for the rest of us it certainly made it smoother. However, there were no large Chinese tour groups when I attempted to enter so how they react to being prevented from joining the queue until they have their TM6 forms properly filled in is another matter. Those doing the pre-screening seemed to be trainees as they were not in immigration police uniforms, so maybe actual AOT staff? In any event, it was a significantly better entry than previously. As for no ATM's before arrivals so long as you have an account with SCB or Kasikorn Bank it is possible to effectively withdraw money at that point just before arrivals immigration rather than having to have it on your person for a prolonged period of time and can then simply place it back into your account once cleared through immigration.
  15. A few points. First regarding ATM machines before immigration for those who wanted to get money out. I asked and there is not any - however at the Bureau de Change if you hold an account with the particular banks (certainly Kasikorn and SCB) then can use ATM card to withdraw funds. I inadvertently passed through immigration on the way out of the country and realised I had not taken out enough money and went to the Kasikorn BdC and no problem to take money out of the account. There is also a kasikorn before immigration as wanted to convert dollars back into baht on arriving back into Thailand to make sure that I had the 20k in Baht (I know that any denomination should be acceptable but wanted to have it in Baht). The second point was that immigration was significantly improved regarding processing. Before reaching immigration, there is staff to check that everyone has properly completed the TM6 (arrival/departure card) thereby reducing the delays caused by people doing them at the immigration desks. Also rather than a scramble to select which booth to go to, a snake system is in place and then an official directs people to available immigration desks. It was such a pleasant contrast to previous experiences as I was through in no time at all. Came in on a non-imm B and no request to show money but not sure of what was the case for others as the process was so streamlined today that I didn't have the opportunity to observe other people's experiences.
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