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  1. Obviously I cannot confirm or deny but my friend did have his villa in that area.
  2. xylophone

    Another new tax on wine?

    No I don't believe it does and that probably goes a long way to answering the question by a previous poster, ukrules, because if it came in as fruit juice, and is fermented and added to by Siam winery, for example, then it gets the orange sticker for being produced in Thailand. Whereas if it was imported as a form of wine, some tax would have to be paid on it and it would have a blue sticker. However if it comes in as a product which is labelled "fruit wine" then it attracts a lower tax of some description, although still has a blue label because it is not produced in Thailand. That's as far as my understanding goes but as I've said in a previous post, the whole area is a mess.
  3. xylophone

    Another new tax on wine?

    Well to be fair, the whole issue here is very confusing, not only because of the taxation, but because of why the mixing of grapes and fruit have constituted a separate market. I think it's relevant here to suggest that whatever Thailand has done to redefine the term "fruit wine" that it bears no relevance to what the rest of the world considers it to be and I will quote a couple of examples for you: – 1) Definition of fruit wine: a wine fermented from fruit other than grapes 2) Wikipedia…………… Fruit wines are fermented alcoholic beverages made from a variety of base ingredients (other than grapes); they may also have additional flavors taken from fruits, flowers, and herbs. Hibiscus or Roselle juice in Thai is…….กระเจี๊ยบแดง krajiab daeng, The red calyces of the plant are increasingly exported to the United States and Europe, particularly Germany, where they are used as food colourings. (Hibiscus/Roselle is what Siam mix with their juice to give it body and to attract a lower tax.......or it used to!) 3) Within the European Union, the term "wine" in English and in translation is reserved exclusively for the fermented juice of grapes. Within the United States, wine may include the fermented juice of any fruit or agricultural product, provided that it is between 7% and 24%alcohol by volume and intended for non-industrial use. With the exceptions of cider, perry, and sake, such non-grape wines are to label themselves by the word "wine" qualified by a truthful description of the originating product: "honey wine", "dandelion wine", (blended) "fruit wine", etc. 4).“As a body of reference in the area of vine and wine the OIV develops definitions and descriptions of the vitivinicultural products in order to contribute to international legal harmonization and to improve the development and marketing of vitivinicultural products. The definitions of vitivinicultural products are included in the first part of the International Code of Oenological Practices. So as you can see, the move worldwide is to ensure that the word wine is only used for the product which is produced from grapes. If I reproduced for you a copy of the old tax system here on alcohol/wine, you would be amazed, because it is so convoluted as to be ridiculous. Having said that the new laws, whatever they are, don't seem to be a lot better! Personally I would like to see tax on products such as wine reduced, and I am finding some cheaper Chilean wines out there as well as some Aussie wines and I think if the alcohol content of these is not excessive and the retail price is low, then the tax applied is not as punitive as once thought. As I said previously, it is quite possible that the reason the new boxes of wines are appearing on the shelves with alcohol contents of 10%, writ large, is another way to try and lower the end price by paying less tax. It would help everyone if this whole area was simplified and there would be no need to import juice/wines with fruit juice added, wines bottled in Vietnam using Australian fruit and then resold in Thailand, wines originating from France and South Africa trying all sorts of things to get a cheaper price on the shelves.......... yes, all of this is currently going on.
  4. xylophone

    Another new tax on wine?

    You make a very good point and it's something I've never fully understood, although GrantSmith, a regular poster on the Montclair wine thread, who is involved in the wine industry, would be able to explain it a lot better than I can. As far as I can make out, the tax on wine sold here is very much centred around the retail price, i.e. that which it is sold for rather than the price of its import. If grape juice is imported in bulk, it still has a duty to pay as an import, then once the likes of Siam winery get hold of it and turn it into "wine" with the addition of fruit juice or the like, then it has a retail price which attracts a tax. Not only that, another aspect of the tax situation is the alcohol content of the retail product with the recent increase going from 100 baht per litre of pure alcohol to 1000 baht per litre of pure alcohol (equivalent). That may be why there are plastic containers/boxes of Montclair (and others) "wine" in the shops which show a lower alcohol content than they used to, with some of them around 10% alcohol now. I believe I do know my wine, having collected it for 45 years or more, however as regards the tax situation, I'm a novice. And for the record I have been in touch with a couple of Australian winemakers to try and ascertain exactly how their "fruit wine" products are "constructed" and if they ship bulk juice to Thailand, but have received no answer, and the same has happened with my enquiries to Siam winery, although I did find out that the hibiscus "flower" is used in the fermentation and production of their product (Montclair).
  5. xylophone

    Patong - The Wake

    Tell me something new!!!! Yes this might be more like it because although Lashay stated that this new bar only took one building, from what I can see it looks like it was around two thirds of the total building?? If that is the case, then surely this bar will be struggling sooner rather than later?
  6. xylophone

    Another new tax on wine?

    Almost right......... If a wine is made from anything other than grapes, it has to be called fruit wine and only wine made from grapes can be called wine and this is now internationally accepted and adhered to. The old argument that a grape is a fruit does not hold true as far as international standards are concerned in the wine industry. Many paragraphs on this on the Montclair thread. The fruit wine here comes from several sources: – – Imported as bulk juice by the likes of Siam winery from Australia, South Africa, Chile and so on and mixed with fruit juice or hibiscus and fermented and bottled/boxed here. – Imported from Australia, South Africa, France, Italy, etc as already mixed with fruit juice and fermented and comes in boxes/casks and bottles (such as Castle Creek, Gossips, Bodegas Valley and so on). If a wine has anything other than grapes in it, it has to be labelled "fruit wine" although the likes of Siam winery have tried to make it as inconspicuous as possible.
  7. xylophone

    Manchester United

    Oh dear...……..11 part time players but no team out there today. Mutterings...…... Pogba……….Jeez what sort of team have I come to? Lukaku……...Shouldn't have eaten all those doughnuts! Bailly...……..Am I supposed to mark players and what is ball control? Lindelhof……..Not sure about this back line set up. Martial...…..I gave it my best 5 minutes. Brighton always unlucky for me; lost three successive Sussex Senior Cup Finals at their old ground, so don't worry Maureen you're not alone and anyway Zinedan is free!
  8. xylophone

    Another new tax on wine?

    Well it is "fruit wine" at least.
  9. xylophone

    Thai butter.

    Yes the Elle & Vire container states "Fabrique en Normandie" but haven't looked at the others yet.
  10. Anyone that has a legal hold on a house...…………. And that is what caught out a friend of mine here in Phuket because he had purchased his villa through a local lawyer, using the company route (aka the Thai nominee route) and thought nothing of it, as most don't or didn't. He works overseas (close by) and came back to Phuket for some R&R every so often and was very surprised in his visit a couple of years or so ago to find someone looking on his door to ask him what he was doing there, because he was trespassing in this persons villa! Turns out his crooked lawyer had some documents reissued at the land office (status and brown envelopes perhaps??) stating that he was the owner and he had sold the place. No problem thought my friend, so he hired a lawyer to take it to court and was stalled, so hired another one and this went slowly through the court process and I asked why this was so slow when in fact it was very clear-cut – – the answer was that because it was bought through the company route, and illegally so, he had no right of ownership on the place and that was the sticking point. As far as I know this was not resolved in his favour and I haven't seen him here for a couple of years, and the last time I did see him, he was not very hopeful at all, suggesting that he had lost the case. Another spin on this thread...…..all it takes is a dispute of some description, and the proverbial can hit the fan!
  11. xylophone

    Patong - The Wake

    As has been said, this experience in both Tigers is replicated throughout many of the other bars, and certainly those in the likes of Soi Freedom, not to mention many in Soi Sea Dragon.................so what of the rumour that one recently opened new and fairly largish bar in Bangla is paying 1 million baht a month in rent (and I think that includes key money)? I'm having trouble getting my head round that, so perhaps other posters could throw some light on what the turnover would have to be on a daily basis (or monthly) to cover that large outgoing PLUS staff, utilities, and other overheads, not to mention the need to put some money away in the bank for future possible "rainy days". Seems unbelievable to me.
  12. xylophone

    Thai butter.

    Yep as a Kiwi I can support that...………….mostly As I have become hooked on the Elle & Vire French unsalted butter and can't wean myself off it!!!
  13. I recently applied to the New Zealand Embassy to get the "proof of income" letter for my upcoming retirement extension and I have to say the folks at the embassy were absolutely fantastic – – great people, giving a top quality service and nothing was too much trouble for them. They helped me through a little glitch, which I want to share if it applies to other Kiwis going through the same process. Everything was fine until I had to pay the required amount into Citibank via something called "Bahtnet". So I went to my large local branch of Bangkok Bank and they knew absolutely nothing about this, but said they could do it anyway, and it turned out they couldn't because it was rejected. They therefore suggested I tried the ATM machine, and this was also rejected. I contacted the NZ Embassy again and they advised me to try another bank and to get back to them if I was still having a problem. As it happened I tried the Krungsri bank and they knew exactly what I was talking about and processed the fee within about five minutes....... and my letter arrived two days later. Absolutely great service. So if your local bank doesn't know what Bahtnet is, try another one.
  14. xylophone

    Nonsense English exam answers

    From what I understand from other farangs this is pretty par for course and I encountered the same at my daughter's school. Not only that a printed and coloured exercise book from which they worked was also full of mistakes. Sadly, not much we can do about it!!
  15. Now now...………..totally unnecessary! I could sum your argument up in a sentence:- "the law may be an ass as regards this point, but this is Thailand and it will be enforced if they want it to be, according to their definition of a nominee, not what you believe".
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