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JohnGordon

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  1. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    Offered to buy tickets for her parents and also enquired about a Skype meeting. Both options were promptly knocked on the head.
  2. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    If I wanted personal attacks I would have asked the ex, I'm sure she would be happy to oblige and also do a very competent job. What I'm looking for is a reference on Thai cultural norms.
  3. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    Might try the St Dec, good idea. CSA dragon woman said they would need reference documents to show that visiting the parents was an essential custom.
  4. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    I've been on a CSA repayment plan for a while and it's upto date. My eldest 3 kids all wanted to live with me and I never got a cent of child support because they were over 18. For a couple of years I was so broke I often had to hop on a tram without money on the Myki. The eldest 2 have finished uni and are working so now it's a lot easier. The ex got $900k cash in the property settlement and I got the business which has been struggling. I could have lied about my income and hidden things but I didn't. I don't drink, smoke or gamble. No flash cars, fancy lifestyle or hookers. Back to the original question - how can I prove to the CSA that I need a DAC to visit Thailand to meet my gf's parents? How can I prove this is a cultural necessity?
  5. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    In hindsight I would have done things differently but I've got to deal with the current situation.
  6. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    We've been collecting documents for the 820 Partner Visa for six months. The application costs is $7,000 and we're both contributing to it.
  7. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    Totally genuine. My background is born and raised in Australia.
  8. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    I don't think the CSA is worried about me skipping the country. My family, business and social connections are all here. Me and my family have lived here for 8 generations and I've never lived overseas. The reality is that the DPO is punative to punish me.
  9. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    I'm on a repayment plan with the CSA and upto date with that. Even so the CSA have refused a Departure Authorisation Certificate until the debt is cleared. I want to visit Thailand to meet the family for a week. I'm not going to sit on a beach, and neither am I skipping the country to avoid the CSA debt. I havn't told my Thai partner about the DPO. I asked about flying her parents here or doing a Skype interview but she won't go for it. Getting a DAC based on compassionate grounds seems like my best option.
  10. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    My girlfriend works and her family are very respectable. Neither her or her family have ever asked for money. Happy to pay Thong Mun and Sin Sod but was told it's unnecesary. She's 34 never married and university educated. I've Googled this topic every which way without luck so far.
  11. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    My three eldest kids were living with me and studying at uni. Two had part-time jobs but I was supporting them all. Because they were over 18 I got no child support. Two have finished uni now so it's easier but for a couple of years I struggled badly. Things like collecting 5 cent pieces to get milk for breakfast in the morning. The CSA debt relates to my 12yo son who lives with mom. For 5 years the CSA debts were upto date but I stopped paying when she screwed me over for the car. I bought her a new Mazda for $20,000 cash when I had a good year in 2015 thinking I would be nice. She works full-time as a nurse and earns more than me now. "Humanitarian" grounds for a DAC includes "compassionate" and I'm trying to say I need to visit my traditional and conservative Thai girlfriends parents so we can get engaged. I'm not going to Thailand to sit on the beach in a resort or go with bar girls in Pattaya. If I can prove the cultural necessity of visiting her family in Thailand I have a chance. You guys know Australia and Thailand, how can I prove I need to meet her parents.
  12. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    DAC issued on humanitarian grounds or in Australia's interests The Secretary must also issue a DAC where satisfied that: the certificate should be issued on humanitarian grounds, or refusing to issue the certificate would be detrimental to Australia's interests, and the debtor is unable (not unwilling) to provide security satisfactory to the Secretary for their return to Australia. Humanitarian grounds include compassionate grounds. The onus is on the debtor to provide evidence satisfactory to the Secretary that shows their situation meets the above requirements.
  13. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    The DAC was rejected on the basis that there was no provision to do so under the Act. Bringing her parents here is an option. She is on a student visa and we will do an 820 Partner visa application in the next few weeks. I know it's a stretch going the Humanitarian argument but it's the only option I can think of. Can anyone suggest a reference that substantiates it's essential to meet a Thai bride's parents?
  14. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    Definitely agree with "loose lips sink ships" but I thought we were on good terms. The DPO came through about 4 days after I told her so it's a safe bet she made a call. I've got a repayment plan with the CSA which is upto date but still no joy getting a a DAC or the DPO lifted. At the CSA most staff are man-hating witches who seem to get an unnatural pleasure from tormenting those they come into contact with. Came across one old guy who worked there and was decent. He suggested applying for a DAC on "humanitarian" grounds. I need a reputable source to show it is essential to meet her Thai family first before getting engaged. We all know Thai culture a bit and this is not surprising to us but how do I prove it. Any ideas?
  15. JohnGordon

    Australia - Departure Prohibition Order

    Live and you learn. I should have got an agreement in writing but made the mistake of relying on a verbal agreement. Now I'm trying to get out of this corner. Anyone with experience of Departure Authorisation Certificates?
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