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11 hours ago, Thechook said:

Really?  Apart from nuclear weapons what does he have?

Chemical weapons that were provided to Syria, among others. Counterfeit currencies, including Thai Baht. Fake drugs. Narcotics. Human trafficking. Conventional weapons. Etc.

 

Lovely country. Amazing some actually support them.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea's_illicit_activities

 

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8 hours ago, sawadeeken said:

I may be mistaken but I thought that The USA (and others) had missiles that could 'shoot down' other missiles................. Why aren't they being put in place to shoot down any further tests of NK missiles.........

Show Kim that he won't get a missile off his soil...... Such as ships in Japanese waters........

Maybe it is in the works as we speak...........

It's not proven technology yet. It may, or may not, shoot down the missiles. Plus, Kim has a bunch.

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11 hours ago, lovelomsak said:

I think what he is saying is NK will sell nuclear bombs to American enemies. The guy has to make up for those sanctions some how. He needs money to run a country and make missiles.

So impose a quarantine.  I don't give China a lot of credit for help in all this, and I'm probably being naïve, but while they might look the other way and allow other sanction-violating goods across, I don't think they'd allow N. Korea to export its nuclear technology across their borders.  And a quarantine at sea would foreclose the maritime option for exporting nuclear materials (as well as everything else).  It's not that big a country and not that many ports - a quarantine shouldn't be that hard to impose, except for the scofflaws not abiding by the international sanctions who probably won't appreciate having their vessels impounded if they refuse to turn around.

 

I know I know.  Fatboy isn't going to like it.  Boo-hoo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 07/09/2017 at 0:40 PM, Thechook said:

Really?  Apart from nuclear weapons what does he have?

A fanatical full time army over a million strong .. He also has an awful lot of conventional weaponry as in artillery pieces , rocket launchers , tanks etc and while a lot of it is fairly old low tech kit he has enough of it to inflict a lot of death and destruction on Seoul which is exactly what he will do if the U S go proactive .. That is the conundrum of all of this .. if the U S decide to pre-empt it they have to destroy everything that he can use against S K , Japan and the U S forces stationed in the region in one simultaneous attack because if he is left with anything he will go for it and military analysts will say the chances of such an attack being successful are very slim .. And he's smart enough to know not to start it off himself .. so for as long as it remains missile and underground bomb testing there is not a lot the U S can do other than push for more sanctions .. 

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15 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

It's not proven technology yet. It may, or may not, shoot down the missiles. Plus, Kim has a bunch.

The most effective anti-missile systems the US has are the kind that protect a small area like an army or air force base. But the effectiveness of anti missile systems that have to protect a large area like, say, the West Coast of the USA, is a lot more dubious.

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12 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

A fanatical full time army over a million strong .. He also has an awful lot of conventional weaponry as in artillery pieces , rocket launchers , tanks etc and while a lot of it is fairly old low tech kit he has enough of it to inflict a lot of death and destruction on Seoul which is exactly what he will do if the U S go proactive .. That is the conundrum of all of this .. if the U S decide to pre-empt it they have to destroy everything that he can use against S K , Japan and the U S forces stationed in the region in one simultaneous attack because if he is left with anything he will go for it and military analysts will say the chances of such an attack being successful are very slim .. And he's smart enough to know not to start it off himself .. so for as long as it remains missile and underground bomb testing there is not a lot the U S can do other than push for more sanctions .. 

Are you thinking he will attack South Korea because of sanctions?

That would mean him doing the first strike. And all his strategy is gone.

He knows what then follows.

It seems sanctions are getting a grip on him

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2 hours ago, sweatalot said:

Are you thinking he will attack South Korea because of sanctions?

That would mean him doing the first strike. And all his strategy is gone.

He knows what then follows.

It seems sanctions are getting a grip on him

No Sir I'm not thinking U S will initiate an attack on N K .. Just about every military analyst thinks that won't happen and S K thereselves are pretty nrevous about such an event , Kim is also clever enough not to start any conflict himself .. So the only route open is either start talking to Kim or continue trying to strangle N K with more sanctions .. I don't see Trump entering into talks at the moment and likewise I don't see Kim offering the hand of friendship so more sanctions it will be .. 

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The United States has more advanced technology than you can imagine.  And a President that will use it, if necessary.  I live on Guam; no worries...

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30 minutes ago, 212Roger said:

The United States has more advanced technology than you can imagine.  And a President that will use it, if necessary.  I live on Guam; no worries...

Or more advanced bloviators.

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He's (kimmie) like the birds that land on the ass of a rhino and eat the insects from its shit.

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1 hour ago, 212Roger said:

The United States has more advanced technology than you can imagine.  And a President that will use it, if necessary.  I live on Guam; no worries...

Roger, are most locals on Guam concerned about possibly being targetted by Kim for a missile test? Interested to hear about the feeling on the ground - as opposed to from commenters that have no idea where Guam even is. Thanks.

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On ‎9‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 7:52 AM, ilostmypassword said:

The most effective anti-missile systems the US has are the kind that protect a small area like an army or air force base. But the effectiveness of anti missile systems that have to protect a large area like, say, the West Coast of the USA, is a lot more dubious.

Neither THAAD nor BMD are "area-defense" weapons like the Patriot anti-missile system.  They are anti ballistic missile systems, and their effectiveness has improved dramatically. Their limitation at this point is not so much that their effectiveness is "dubious", it's instead that they're simply limited in number and can't defend against a "swarm", i.e., any large number, of ICBMs such as China would be capable of launching.  Against the few missiles that Kim could possibly launch anytime soon, they could be decisive, which is why Kim is outraged.  In his delusional fog, he no doubt entertained the fantasy of being able to launch a conventional attack on the south and then nuke Guam if/when the U.S. started trying to send in the inevitable reinforcements and air support.  That was his version of "nuclear deterrence". 

 

Well, unless the U.S. is willing to launch a pre-emptive attack (or even if it is), Kim's massive artillery array is going to kill millions in the most densely and heavily populated capital in the world, Seoul, before anything can be done about it, nuclear or otherwise.  His overwhelming superiority in manpower will also inevitably penetrate well into the south before any sustainable containment can be established and the obsolescence and logistics of his own forces finally bring them shuddering to a halt.  He'll be taken down in the end, but you can bet he'll succeed in taking a huge segment of the Korean population (both North and South) with him, and millions more if he lights off any nukes.  And that doesn't include the physical destruction.   I don't know which way the prevailing winds blow in Korea, but I don't imagine China wants to see this thing getting nuclear no matter what.

 

All this, of course, unless some timely "accident" should befall said whacko nutjob psycho before this madness proceeds much further...

 

Thank-you, boy statesman, for getting us here.

 

 

 

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On 9/12/2017 at 11:28 AM, FreddieRoyle said:

Roger, are most locals on Guam concerned about possibly being targetted by Kim for a missile test? Interested to hear about the feeling on the ground - as opposed to from commenters that have no idea where Guam even is. Thanks.

Nearly everyone on the island feels safe.  There was a poll a couple of days ago in the local newspaper that stated that people feel the local government is doing an outstanding job informing people...  Guam's security status has not been raised.  People are happy with the governor's trip to Washington and the publicity Guam received as the result.  However, tourism was down 7,000 visitors in August 2017 vs. an all-time high in August 2016.  This due exclusively to cancelled tours by the Japanese.  By the way, Koreans have surpassed the Japanese  as the #1 tourists to Guam. 

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