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thaibeachlovers    9,472
12 hours ago, DD13 said:

Whatever is the correct fare.....common sense would be for the authorities to have a notice printed.....showing the various fare stages.... Then insist that it is displayed in the passenger area of the vehicle

Used to be so, then they vanished.

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soistalker    117

I don't want to overpay. I don't like Baht bus drivers, and they don't like farang. Try to pay with a 100 baht bill. 10 out of 10 times, they will want you to give it to them before they even try to get change. If you don't, they will start yelling at you with abuse, and waving a finger in your face.

Try to catch one where they wait until at least 12 people are inside before they leave, steaming in the heat of the enclosed space with the engine running and the exhaust coming out.

You overpay if you want, but my motto for Thailand is "Not a damn satang extra!"

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AbeSurd    119
16 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Baht buses in Pattaya have been same price since the 90s.

 

Maybe for foreigners.

But I seem to remember around 2007 the fare went up from 5 baht to 10 baht for Thais.

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pegman    1,338
16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I'm not advocating any fare. Just informing people what is the actual current fare. From Jomtien it is 10 baht to just past Klang and 20 after. Not Tai. Not Mikes. Not Central.


Klang.

Says you. Please show an official link or this is purely just your opinion. Earlier you wrote that the army stated at the time of the route change attempt that ALL fares are  ฿10. What is it?

 I have gone from Jomtien past Klang 100's of times and been asked for  ฿20 twice. Once at Soi3 and once at Klang by a new driver. I only pay  ฿20 if it goes onto the next route to Nakluea Fish Market. That is the same as the 2 route return trip. As for longer distances a songthaew on Suk/Hwy3 from Pattaya to Sattihip is only ฿20. A much farther route than any in Pattaya. 

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digbeth    239

I can see that it is fair to charge the extra 10 baht if the northbound bus 'terminates' at Klang and turn back down beach road, if you want to continue on, hop off and walk across the street to catch the klang-north and naklua section, call it another route if you will... 

 

heck you can even make the driver/purse lady collect all the 10 baht before klang and makes it clear that if the bus were to continue on, you'll be charged another 10

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Jingthing    34,294
10 hours ago, pegman said:

Says you. Please show an official link or this is purely just your opinion. Earlier you wrote that the army stated at the time of the route change attempt that ALL fares are  ฿10. What is it?

 I have gone from Jomtien past Klang 100's of times and been asked for  ฿20 twice. Once at Soi3 and once at Klang by a new driver. I only pay  ฿20 if it goes onto the next route to Nakluea Fish Market. That is the same as the 2 route return trip. As for longer distances a songthaew on Suk/Hwy3 from Pattaya to Sattihip is only ฿20. A much farther route than any in Pattaya. 

Hi there. I'm on your side. I have no problem with anything you said there and I invited people to test out paying 10 well past Klang repeatedly if they want to, and you say that you have.

 

My position is pay the correct fare while at the same time don't take any high risk of being violently assaulted. 

 

In my more limited experience than yours apparently, the drivers have appeared much more likely to elevate the situation past Klang. (As I've said right after Klang is still safely in the 10 zone).

 

A question I have for is do you have a pattern about where you get off the bus? For example, more often closer to Hard Rock than closer to Pattaya North Road? I think that would probably make a difference in rate of driver pushbacks.

 

Anyway, I suggest people have the correct change, and then if there is aggressive pushback past Klang, use your judgment about whether a potential violent assault is really worth it (generally not). 

 

As far as military orders and your question "What is it" your guess is as good as mine. Anyone that has lived in Thailand understands there are many grey areas as far as how authority is followed. 

 

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Jingthing    34,294
2 minutes ago, digbeth said:

I can see that it is fair to charge the extra 10 baht if the northbound bus 'terminates' at Klang and turn back down beach road, if you want to continue on, hop off and walk across the street to catch the klang-north and naklua section, call it another route if you will... 

 

heck you can even make the driver/purse lady collect all the 10 baht before klang and makes it clear that if the bus were to continue on, you'll be charged another 10

The fare is 10 baht until just past Klang whether they turn or not. 

The latter paragraph generally doesn't happen, so I characterize that as irrelevant. 

 

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juice777    446
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Thais use public transport in every habitation in Thailand, and it usually costs more than 10 baht. A Thai trying to get a red songtheaw in Chiang Mai for 10 baht would be in for a shock. Pattaya is unusual.
That's not the point if they double the price that might cost some Thai people a 1000THB a month. A lot when you might only earn about 15000.

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juice777    446

I am glad I read this Thread. I was never sure If they was cheating me on the rare occasion I have been charged 20THB past klang.Or if the other driver just forgot where I got on. But I am going to continue to pay 10THB and play dumb. And then just have a little chuckle to myself as I walk of. There is no one else I would consider cheating in Thailand only these people. Nearly all of them are dishonest in my opinion. Just watch when you give them 20THB for a 10THB fare and they slightly hesitate to see if you are expecting change. Plus I could go on for ages with all the other problems I've had with them over the years. But you've all hered the storys before.

 

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thaibeachlovers    9,472
On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 11:52 AM, JHolmesJr said:

rule #1 is never ask "how much"…..just keep ur 10 bht coin ready, disembark, pay without making eye contact and walk (don't run)  in the opposite direction.

I do that, but I also keep another handy in case he gets out with a steel bar. These days I couldn't outrun a lame sloth.

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thaibeachlovers    9,472
On ‎9‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 3:58 AM, pegman said:

As for longer distances a songthaew on Suk/Hwy3 from Pattaya to Sattihip is only ฿20. A much farther route than any in Pattaya. 

Up in Chiang Mai if I take the yellow songtheaw to Hang Dong it costs me 10 baht to Big C, but if I were to take a red songtheaw it would be 30 if I were lucky.

You are talking apples and oranges. Both are songtheaws, but run under different fare structures, so your point is erroneous.

Try asking a Pattaya City baht bus to take you to Sattahip for 20 baht.............

 

Much gnashing of teeth about not paying too much, but I doubt any of you would go to work for an equivalent amount. It has been 10 baht since the 90s and there has been inflation in that time.

Anyway, don't be surprised if the price does go up.

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whitemouse    601
1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I do that, but I also keep another handy in case he gets out with a steel bar. These days I couldn't outrun a lame sloth.

 

And I thought only motoboys keep steel bars handy under their seats

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On September 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, juice777 said:

I am glad I read this Thread. I was never sure If they was cheating me on the rare occasion I have been charged 20THB past klang.Or if the other driver just forgot where I got on. But I am going to continue to pay 10THB and play dumb. And then just have a little chuckle to myself as I walk of. There is no one else I would consider cheating in Thailand only these people. Nearly all of them are dishonest in my opinion. Just watch when you give them 20THB for a 10THB fare and they slightly hesitate to see if you are expecting change. Plus I could go on for ages with all the other problems I've had with them over the years. But you've all hered the storys before

 

Paying the correct local fare is also great practice for newbies and tourists in a situation that's not too dangerous.

 

if you want to survive in a less affluent country you need to be vigilant and stand your ground on small things so you won't get ripped off on the big things.

 

on a side note:

 

if the driver stops and nothing is posted technically the ride is free. Anything else is a negotiation when you get off.

 

So don't get duped into paying whatever they ask if you think it's over the going rate (does not account for steel bars, group mobbing etc).

 

just like a meter taxi if the meter is off you can't see the fare and it's not an above board ride. If the police show up there is no fare or evidence you knew what you had to pay.

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tchk    1

Where do people get all these 10B coins? Go shopping? Have a beer? Is there a place to get a whole roll of them? Difficult to get change from a driver paying with a 20B 

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