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North Korea does not want war, world does not want regime change: U.N.

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29 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Worse how?

 

We already have a dictator making threats, holding both his people and neighbors hostage. The North Koreans are already oppressed. So what then? Someone getting their hands on unconventional weapons? More freedom to act against them than against Kim. North Korea's arsenal making it to world markets? Easier to implement a maritime blockade. Religious nutters....ah, none of that. Weak neighboring countries in danger of being seriously destabilized?

Russia, the PRC, and South Korea do not match.

 

As no side will be willing to let another take charge, perhaps a good opportunity to practice international cooperation, even.

 

Biological weapons being deployed. Chemical weapons being deployed. Dirty nuclear weapons being deployed. Clean and shiny nuclear weapons being deployed.

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1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said:

Biological weapons being deployed. Chemical weapons being deployed. Dirty nuclear weapons being deployed. Clean and shiny nuclear weapons being deployed.

 

You'll have to do better than that. Deployed by whom? against which targets? Without context this is just more of the same scaremongering.

 

There are already such weapons deployed or on alert to be deployed. One difference is that with Kim in place, taking them out may result in retaliation. If the country goes to the dogs (which, honestly, I don't think it will anyway), coordination and cooperation would be a lesser worry when taking action.

 

I think something along the lines of the USSR's collapse, post Ceausescu Romania, may be more realistic scenarios (compared with ME versions, for example).

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Just now, Morch said:

 

You'll have to do better than that. Deployed by whom? against which targets? Without context this is just more of the same scaremongering.

 

There are already such weapons deployed or on alert to be deployed. One difference is that with Kim in place, taking them out may result in retaliation. If the country goes to the dogs (which, honestly, I don't think it will anyway), coordination and cooperation would be a lesser worry when taking action.

 

I think something along the lines of the USSR's collapse, post Ceausescu Romania, may be more realistic scenarios (compared with ME versions, for example).

You know, contrary to what you might believe, it's not guaranteed that such a not-full-scale-war or any other attempt would actually be a success. And in the chaos that might follow, who knows what desperate weaponry would be unleased?

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1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said:

You know, contrary to what you might believe, it's not guaranteed that such a not-full-scale-war or any other attempt would actually be a success. And in the chaos that might follow, who knows what desperate weaponry would be unleased?

 

You know, I've actually addressed that it is not guaranteed. Just a few posts ago. Even referred to less then optimal outcome regime change effort.

 

If "desperate" was a reference to Kim or some Kim loyalist cronies, then thanks. I've been making a similar argument over many a topic, but was told that it wouldn't be rational, it would be pointless etc etc. If this wasn't a reference to some sort of Samson option, then please clarify. If it was a reference for someone-might-launch/fire-something-for-some-obscure-reason, that's not much of a motivation.

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Guess South Korea didn't get the UN memo....

 

 

South Korea is building an elite military unit with one mission: kill Kim Jong Un

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/9/12/16296758/south-korea-north-korea-military-spartan-3000

 

South Korea Plans ‘Decapitation Unit’ to Try to Scare North’s Leaders

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/12/world/asia/north-south-korea-decapitation-.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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12 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

You know, I've actually addressed that it is not guaranteed. Just a few posts ago. Even referred to less then optimal outcome regime change effort.

 

If "desperate" was a reference to Kim or some Kim loyalist cronies, then thanks. I've been making a similar argument over many a topic, but was told that it wouldn't be rational, it would be pointless etc etc. If this wasn't a reference to some sort of Samson option, then please clarify. If it was a reference for someone-might-launch/fire-something-for-some-obscure-reason, that's not much of a motivation.

Let me remind you of your question

"Worse how?"

I answered it.

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17 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

You know, I've actually addressed that it is not guaranteed. Just a few posts ago. Even referred to less then optimal outcome regime change effort.

 

If "desperate" was a reference to Kim or some Kim loyalist cronies, then thanks. I've been making a similar argument over many a topic, but was told that it wouldn't be rational, it would be pointless etc etc. If this wasn't a reference to some sort of Samson option, then please clarify. If it was a reference for someone-might-launch/fire-something-for-some-obscure-reason, that's not much of a motivation.

In fact you aren't actually saying anything at all, nor do you ever on this subject. Just arguing with allcomers.

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2 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Let me remind you of your question

"Worse how?"

I answered it.

 

Let me remind you, that the first part of your "reply" was off mark, and if the rest is an "answer" guess it is the along the lines of someone-might-launch/fire-something-for-some-obscure-reason . Oh well...

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3 minutes ago, baboon said:

In fact you aren't actually saying anything at all, nor do you ever on this subject.

 

in fact, you're trolling.

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1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

in fact, you're trolling.

Case in point. Regular readers of these threads know exactly what my position is. 

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5 minutes ago, baboon said:

Case in point. Regular readers of these threads know exactly what my position is. 

 

Yawn.

If I'm not a zealot (one way or the other), it means that I have no position?

Other than affirming that you troll, you have no point.

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"North Korea does not want war, world does not want regime change: U.N."

Thanks, UN.   I'm SO reassured...

 

What a bunch of fumbling, stumbling bozos tripping over their own clown shoes.   Psychoboy has maneuvered himself into a position of almost needing war just to keep on keeping on, and the world - aside from the usual thug sympathizers, the UN obviously, and that dim bulb Merkel - is pretty much finally getting this.

 

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11 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

I'm sure Kim Jong Un will be thrilled to hear that a few expat Westerners on ThaiVisa Forum are rooting for him. Who knows? Maybe he'll decide to take Thailand off his list of US client states to nuke if and when the balloon goes up.

 

The lads at Langley, Virginia might find it  hard to believe there are still a few innocents abroad blissfully unaware of their lengthy and  impressive record when it comes to helping topple unpopular (with the US administration) regimes. 

 

Assuming you enjoy a good book, I can recommend Ahmed Bensada's The Arab Spring: Made in America.  Best have a stiff drink handy. You're going to need it.

Thailand a US client state?  Seriously? LOL  Too funny.

 

Most of us are fully aware of the CIA and it's attempts to topple regimes.  Mostly during the cold war and on the other side was Russia trying to do the same.

 

Bensada's book is in French and is reviewed by globalresearch.ca.  A fake news website.  Hardly worth a read.  Plus, this is all off topic.  We're suppose to be talking about North Korea.

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2 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

Pro North Korea at all costs, and anti-US at all costs.  A small deviation would increase your credibility substantially.  That avatar doesn't help. LOL

Pro peace, anti neofascist/imperialist scum. Nothing wrong with most Americans.

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