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Getting a Thai Retirement Visa in Australia

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Mattd    218
1 hour ago, David Walden said:

I do qualify in all your references.  It is my intention that when living in Thailand to make  trips back to Perth West Aus often.  Usually cost about $300 Aus return if you avoid school holidays.  I plan to make sure after 12 months that I will be back in Aus and return just before all expires.  I believe as you suggest this should give me 2 years (about).  After that maybe start all over again.  It a good idea to study up bush lawyering of Thai Immigration requirements.  It sure could come in handy sometime.

From what you have stated in a previous post, then you do not qualify on the monthly income requirements alone.

Obviously it is entirely how you want to proceed, however, at some point in the future it would be wise to open a Thai bank account for your daily needs if you intend on living here on a near full time basis, otherwise you will be subjected to higher costs due to exchange rates and ATM withdrawal charges, getting THB from an Aussie bank via the ATM system in Thailand.

Once you have this Thai account opened, then it would be a fairly simple process of transferring funds to it from Australia, making sure that you have at least 800,000 THB in the account for at least 60 days prior to the end of your last permission to stay on the O-A visa, (unless, like Joe suggests, you elect to use both income and the bank methods) The rest is relatively easy to get the extension of stay for retirement purposes from immigration in Thailand, certainly a lot less involved than renewing your O-A visa in Australia and a lot less expensive. All you would need to remember to do after this is to get a re-entry permit for those trips to Perth.

Subsequent renewals would require the money to be in the bank for 3 months prior to applying for the extension.

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Mattd    218
6 minutes ago, Evilbaz said:

At the risk of contradicting you Ubonjoe he stated $830 per fortnight which is greater than 1660 per month plus $1000 per month from another pension.

I believe that exceeds 65000 Baht per month required.

OP - just state income on the Stat Dec - don't confuse the IOs.

Good point, meaning a total income per month of around 2,924 AUD, so about 76,000 THB.

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blankagain    14
2 hours ago, David Walden said:

On the advice to applicants when applying for a RETIRED (O-A visa) for  on form "A" from the Royal Thai Embassy in Australia (Canberra).  To find out about what is required you look under the heading "Retirement Visa"  After you study it all up yes you realise you are applying for O-A visa.

This is just another example of frivolity.  I just love that word.  Oh! and you can only apply for a "Thai Retirement Visa" at a Royal Thai Embassy not a Consul.

I had exactly the same experience, you couldn't make it up. My Dr was amused and the J.P. astounded. I had to visit the Embassy 3 times for the usual 'no have income statement signed' even though it was on a government letter head. Another phone call 'no have bank statement' even though the income letter was well in excess of the required amount. Then the JP forgot to sign (1) copy the police report.

By this time I was well and truly over it and turned up and told her the JP wasn't available for 2 days and forget everything and give me a SETV and she said okay collect it in 3 days.

Getting the O visa in Jomtien was not much better, I wouldn't recommend it unless you're prepared to 'pay' which I did. 

Suffice to say it was worth it. I now have the 'O' and retirement extension (15 months). The cost wasn't what you were 

'quoted. Lol!  It would have been painless and cheaper to just take a trip to penang..hindsight...

Whilst I was in the Embassy a courier arrived to pick up some diplomatic passports..yep! someone hadn't signed something..beggars belief. 

 

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David Walden    116
1 hour ago, giddyup said:

I'm not sure how the embassy would have known how much you had, the stat dec is issued purely on your say so. The embassy doesn't check your bank accounts etc, the stat dec is issued on the spot and Thai immigration accepts it at face value. It is supposed to be an honest account of your financial status, but it is never checked AFAIK.

There are many stories about this.  The lady at Aus Embassy reminded me that this was an oath and proving it may be required.  I didn't need to give any false information under oath. You can get up to 4 years jail for giving a false oath on Australian soil (Embassy), it reminds you on the form

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ubonjoe    18,093
51 minutes ago, Evilbaz said:

At the risk of contradicting you Ubonjoe he stated $830 per fortnight (or should have as that's what he'll receive for OAP here) which is greater than 1660 per month plus $1000 per month from another pension.

I guess I missed the p/f in his post. If he had written it in full I might of paid more attention. Perhaps immigration misunderstood it the same as I did if he wrote it as only $830 on his stat declaration. I am sure they would of thought it as monthly income.

At todays exchange rate he had an income 72,445 to prove. That is calculating it as annual income and then changing to monthly income. He has 13.04 (365 days divided by 28 days) payments per year of his $830 pension.

If he had only shown the monthly income income he had immigration would of accepted stat dec.

 

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David Walden    116
1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

The stat declaration is only to prove income not money in the bank. You have to have an income of 65k baht permit month. At today's rates the total income of 1,888 AUD you showed is only 48,785.92 baht. That is why it was refused.

You could of used the combination method and would of only needed about 220k baht in the bank.

I had the Bt800,000 as well.

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giddyup    7,051
Just now, David Walden said:

I had the Bt800,000 as well.

In a Thai bank?

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David Walden    116
3 minutes ago, giddyup said:

In a Thai bank?

No, and I don't really want to put money in a Thai bank account...I have a Citibank debit card issued in Australia.  I can draw out money from any ATM in the world free of charge at that days current exchange rate some times better?  The Thai ATM fee is shown on the ATM slip but by the end of that day the Bt220 is credited back to my account,  I only want to keep my money in Australia.  The account I have has never cost me a cent to have (10 years). It's only available in Aus and you must have a TFN (tax file number) to get one.

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David Walden    116
2 hours ago, giddyup said:

How are you going to meet the financial requirements when it's time to renew the visa in one year? (sorry, responding to the OP).

I'll just come back to Aus and start all over again...not far for me.

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giddyup    7,051
2 minutes ago, David Walden said:

No, and I don't really want to put money in a Thai bank account...I have a Citibank debit card issued in Australia.  I can draw out money from any ATM in the world free of charge at that days current exchange rate some times better?  The Thai ATM fee is shown on the ATM slip but by the end of that day the Bt220 is credited back to my account,  I only want to keep my money in Australia.  The account I have has never cost me a cent to have (10 years). It's only available in Aus and you must have a TFN (tax file number) to get one.

Then it was irrelevant as to how much you had in an Aussie bank, they are only concerned about regular income.

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giddyup    7,051
Just now, David Walden said:

I'll just come back to Aus and start all over again...not far for me.

So, you can't prove an income sufficient to meet the criteria? Because if you can you should be able to do it here for 1900 baht a year., but seems like you prefer the difficult route.

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Mattd    218
1 minute ago, David Walden said:

I'll just come back to Aus and start all over again...not far for me.

As stated, if this is how you want to proceed in the future, then it is your prerogative and makes all further discussions about monthly income and Thai Baht accounts irrelevant. 

 

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David Walden    116
2 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Then it was irrelevant as to how much you had in an Aussie bank, they are only concerned about regular income.

To clear things up (that is clear as mud) in the last 6 months I've made 2 attempts to get a retirement visa.  One in Thailand and one in Australia.  My attempts in Thailand failed to much stuffing around and I've done my homework.  They have been successful in Australia....Australia is better.  It's all a dogs dinner.  What happens a year or two down the road is anybodies guess including mine.  I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.  The fact that I have Bt 800,000 or about Aus $33,000 did the trick

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David Walden    116
8 minutes ago, giddyup said:

So, you can't prove an income sufficient to meet the criteria? Because if you can you should be able to do it here for 1900 baht a year., but seems like you prefer the difficult route.

Yes the honest route ???

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