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1 hour ago, Kadilo said:

It gives me no pleasure to say that i totally agree with you. 

 

3 hours ago, Grouse said:

Wherever one goes in the world, if there's a beer fuelled brawl, Brits will be in the thick of it. I have travelled and lived in many parts of the world and sadly I speak the truth.

 

Go to any German town on an evening and witness beers and wine being consumed in prodigious quantities. No unpleasantness no police.

 

It's embarrassing actually.

 

Fix it by putting up the prices....

Once again a bit of exaggeration to get the point across!

"Many parts of the world" isn't everywhere - and I'm afraid a lot of other nationalities are guilty of "beer fuelled brawls".

 

And just as a point of interest, as you mentioned Germany:-

"Germany's official crime statistics for 2016 have shown a rise in violent crime across the country - including among young male migrants."

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9 hours ago, sambum said:

 

Once again a bit of exaggeration to get the point across!

"Many parts of the world" isn't everywhere - and I'm afraid a lot of other nationalities are guilty of "beer fuelled brawls".

 

And just as a point of interest, as you mentioned Germany:-

"Germany's official crime statistics for 2016 have shown a rise in violent crime across the country - including among young male migrants."

Obviously you can only speak for the places you have been and the places you have lived. As much as I would love to have lived everywhere I am still making my way round. 

In my opinion from my own personal experience there is a higher likelihood of seeing Brits in any beer brawl where there a cross section of nations than anyone else. That is not to say some other countries don't have a problem as I'm sure they do but the point Grouse makes is a valid one imo. 

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10 hours ago, sambum said:

 

Once again a bit of exaggeration to get the point across!

"Many parts of the world" isn't everywhere - and I'm afraid a lot of other nationalities are guilty of "beer fuelled brawls".

 

And just as a point of interest, as you mentioned Germany:-

"Germany's official crime statistics for 2016 have shown a rise in violent crime across the country - including among young male migrants."

Source please.

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5 hours ago, stevenl said:

Source please.

Source:- Deutsche Welle (DW) is Germany’s international broadcaster.

:- "Germany's official crime statistics for 2016 have shown a rise in violent crime across the country - including among young male migrants. "There is no sugarcoating here," Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said at a crowded press conference in Berlin on Monday.

Violent crime increased by 6.7 percent last year, rising to 193,542 cases from 181,386 cases in 2015. There was a similar increase in drug-related crime, which rose by 7.1 percent to 302,594 cases in 2016. Perhaps more worryingly, the rise in weapons-related crime was more than double that - up 14.8 percent to 34,443 cases. Nevertheless, the overall statistics showed only a slight increase in crime - up by just 0.7 percent from 2015 to 2016 - or 6.37 million cases in total, and there was a notable drop of 4.4 percent in the rate of theft."

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39 minutes ago, sambum said:

Source:- Deutsche Welle (DW) is Germany’s international broadcaster.

:- "Germany's official crime statistics for 2016 have shown a rise in violent crime across the country - including among young male migrants. "There is no sugarcoating here," Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said at a crowded press conference in Berlin on Monday.

Violent crime increased by 6.7 percent last year, rising to 193,542 cases from 181,386 cases in 2015. There was a similar increase in drug-related crime, which rose by 7.1 percent to 302,594 cases in 2016. Perhaps more worryingly, the rise in weapons-related crime was more than double that - up 14.8 percent to 34,443 cases. Nevertheless, the overall statistics showed only a slight increase in crime - up by just 0.7 percent from 2015 to 2016 - or 6.37 million cases in total, and there was a notable drop of 4.4 percent in the rate of theft."

Try to find this on DW website, but could not. With these numbers it is always interesting to lo0ok at the context and explanation.

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2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Try to find this on DW website, but could not. With these numbers it is always interesting to lo0ok at the context and explanation.

I just Googled "Violence in Germany today" and it is under the heading "More murder and violence in Germany/D.W./ 24.04.2017"

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38 minutes ago, sambum said:

I just Googled "Violence in Germany today" and it is under the heading "More murder and violence in Germany/D.W./ 24.04.2017"

Thanks, a link in the first place would have been easier. For people interested, http://www.dw.com/en/more-murder-and-violence-in-germany/a-38567642.

 

In the article it is mentioned that total crime has a slight rise, which seems to fit my own recollection (sorry, no link) that I very recently read that in the Netherlands crime is on the decline. This knowledge made me curious about the German numbers.

In the same article it is clearly mentioned there is not one group to blame.

 

Maybe time to get back to the Brits.

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8 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Thanks, a link in the first place would have been easier. For people interested, http://www.dw.com/en/more-murder-and-violence-in-germany/a-38567642.

 

In the article it is mentioned that total crime has a slight rise, which seems to fit my own recollection (sorry, no link) that I very recently read that in the Netherlands crime is on the decline. This knowledge made me curious about the German numbers.

In the same article it is clearly mentioned there is not one group to blame.

 

Maybe time to get back to the Brits.

I find that usually a reference to the article is sufficient, and failing that if any one is sufficiently interested, a Google search will give them more options to look at.

Re the "not one group to blame" it also states that he was being very careful not to blame immigrants, although - and read this as you want -  "Among the violent crimes, there were 1 percent more Germans, but 90 percent more migrant suspects," de Maiziere said - before adding that many of these crimes took place among the asylum-seekers"

 

Maybe you should concentrate your efforts away from the Brits? 

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