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Just now, robblok said:

4000bt a day for an observer.... seems like a real steep price.. does that include the bribe for letting them do what they want.. if so then the price makes sense.

Yes it sounds like the price for a foreigner....but maybe that's what Europe wants them to use?

 

Also i wonder how much that gps-thing cost...a cellphone with gps is dirtcheap nowadays but maybe the marine-systems cost a lot more...the fishery in Thailand is a 7 billion us$ a year business though.

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Did the EU not read or see the story about how they would 'boycott' EU products? Damn! I could have sworn that would change their minds. 

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Do THEY have to abide by the EU F.Regs? I thought only Thai demand others to follow and abide by their rules n Regs such as immigration regs etc etc....I wonder how they will react if a total ban is imposed by the EU and other major importing countries??

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4 hours ago, webfact said:

We cannot afford such a big expense.”

 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

“We realise now this is all just a trade barrier by the EU, because all of the fishing vessels in Thailand are [following the law], but they still keep the yellow card for Thailand.” 

old refrains: we are victims , we are thai so we do it our way, our rules

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1 minute ago, Mickmouse1 said:

Do THEY have to abide by the EU F.Regs? I thought only Thai demand others to follow and abide by their rules n Regs such as immigration regs etc etc....I wonder how they will react if a total ban is imposed by the EU and other major importing countries??

In that case the EU should even add extra rules and regs right after the Thai do abide to all the rules.

They also do that to me every time i apply for a visa...i bring all paperwork mentioned on the website but still they demand me to bring more when i m standing there in person after hours driving.

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12 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Did the EU not read or see the story about how they would 'boycott' EU products? Damn! I could have sworn that would change their minds. 

Yes boycot Benz and Bmw....maybe the bribery also stops then because they have nothing to spend it at.

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12 minutes ago, Thian said:

In that case the EU should even add extra rules and regs right after the Thai do abide to all the rules.

They also do that to me every time i apply for a visa...i bring all paperwork mentioned on the website but still they demand me to bring more when i m standing there in person after hours driving.

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38 minutes ago, The Deerhunter said:

If they had used the money that was been spent on bribing every level of authority sent to try and regulate them to manage their business humanely and sustsainably they would be a modern up to date fleet already.   With a healthy resource to boot! But this is Asia and TIT. Preach to the choir.

Oh yes and ultimately  Sum Num Nah.  But sad for any decent operators (there must be at least a few) caught in the wreckage.

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4 minutes ago, The Deerhunter said:

But sad for any decent operators (there must be at least a few)

Pfff. I doubt it.

 

Hope springs eternal, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

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5 hours ago, webfact said:

Since 2015, Thailand has been on the IUU watch list for its “unimproved fisheries industry”, which the EU claims is destroying marine resources and ecosystems, abusing workers aboard fishing boats, and failing to provide necessary facilities for workers.

This is all very true, therefore, it would be better if the Thai fishing industry would loose this "fight for survival". 

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1 hour ago, Thian said:

So now EVERY fishingboat has an observer who gets paid 4000 baht a day? Is that a farang? 

 

4000 baht is only 1 good fish...and on the markets here the good fish never have a pricetag so you'll have to ask for it. They do look very fresh lately though.

 

But i don't buy fish because they just cut it in pieces and that goes on the scale, including the guts and what's inside the stomach. I wonder if the Thai eat the guts as well.

 

 

The guts are usually sold seperately as a delicacy, makes for a wonderful tom Yam or tom Som. My wife loves it, better than meat.

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23 minutes ago, jaywalker said:

Pfff. I doubt it.

 

Hope springs eternal, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

Hate to agree but I am sure you are right.  Some of the very small ones  like single boat etc may be clean(er).  But we know what (some/many/most/all???) of the big boys were up to...... as in  "up to, and including slavery." 

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5 minutes ago, Bullie said:

The guts are usually sold seperately as a delicacy, makes for a wonderful tom Yam or tom Som. My wife loves it, better than meat.

Well here in most fishshops (also at the Makro) i see the big fish just cut in slices including the guts.

 

Heads are sold seperately.

 

I don't mind that they sell the guts but myself i don't even want to look at it and sure not pay the full price for it as well. 

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