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You're right, no one cares about this type of alarmist post because it's not a big deal and nothing can be done about it in the medium to short term. If you are donning a medical type mask you're wasting your time with that too.

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It is a big deal. The health impacts are very real and very serious, especially for young and old people. 

 

Many steps can be taken in the short/medium term to reduce air pollution and are taken in many other major cities around the world when the air pollution reaches such dangerous levels. 

 

Indeed, the medical masks do nothing to reduce the amount of pollution you breath, nor does a hand/shirt/fabric over face. You have to use a proper mask. 

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2 hours ago, Just Weird said:

You're right, no one cares about this type of alarmist post because it's not a big deal and nothing can be done about it in the medium to short term. If you are donning a medical type mask you're wasting your time with that too.

People sure care and move to the subs away from the main roads in a nice moobaan with loads of green.

 

And sure something can be done, in China they decided that only cars with an even number on their licenseplate can drive on one day and the other day the uneven numbers are allowed to drive. That will sure work!

 

Also in China they use electric motocycles ONLY in certain cities....also electric cars don't pollute bad air in a city.

 

At places like Saphan Kwai bts the air is really bad, why you think nobody cares? Why do the streetvendors there wear facemasks ALL DAYS you think?

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China has also imposed a no construction policy in some areas this winter (air pollution is much worse in the winter) which has worked very well. 

 

Bangkok is doing a good job, with the BTS, new electric busses coming, gas type conversion of cars and motorcycles, etc. Obviously more can be done, the odd/even license plate technique is very successful and used in many cities. Construction limits, crop burning limits, etc. Many things can be done. 

 

In general public awareness and transparency seem low. On a day like today, public alerts seem appropriate. Otherwise many people just won't know any better. 

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20 minutes ago, Thian said:

People sure care and move to the subs away from the main roads in a nice moobaan with loads of green.

 

And sure something can be done, in China they decided that only cars with an even number on their licenseplate can drive on one day and the other day the uneven numbers are allowed to drive. That will sure work!

 

Also in China they use electric motocycles ONLY in certain cities....also electric cars don't pollute bad air in a city.

 

At places like Saphan Kwai bts the air is really bad, why you think nobody cares? Why do the streetvendors there wear facemasks ALL DAYS you think?

The China "solution" of alternate days has no significant effect in the short to medium term which was my point.

 

How can the Chinese electric bike and car project be applied to Bangkok?  You also seem to be ignoring the fact that huge amounts of electricity need to be generated for that kind of plan, do you have any idea of how that is made?  It doesn't come free from sockets in walls, you know?

 

I've no idea why the vendors wear masks as they have next to no effect; do their masks seal airtight onto the face or does the dirty air get in all the gaps?  The vendors are still breathing exactly the same air as everyone else in the area.

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I agree.  The air has been awful lately.  I live on the 27th floor and on some mornings can no longer see buildings 2-3km away, at all.  There doesn't seem to be political will to do anything about it either, like with anything else in this country.  One of the reasons I'm leaving Thailand this year.  Not worth compromising my health.

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2 hours ago, Just Weird said:

The China "solution" of alternate days has no significant effect in the short to medium term which was my point.

 

How can the Chinese electric bike and car project be applied to Bangkok?  You also seem to be ignoring the fact that huge amounts of electricity need to be generated for that kind of plan, do you have any idea of how that is made?  It doesn't come free from sockets in walls, you know?

 

I've no idea why the vendors wear masks as they have next to no effect; do their masks seal airtight onto the face or does the dirty air get in all the gaps?  The vendors are still breathing exactly the same air as everyone else in the area.

Of course the china solution will have effect, do you think all Thai have 2 cars with even and uneven plates?

 

And how many powerplants are there in the Siam area??

 

What a nonsense again.....

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1 hour ago, ChidlomDweller said:

I agree.  The air has been awful lately.  I live on the 27th floor and on some mornings can no longer see buildings 2-3km away, at all.  There doesn't seem to be political will to do anything about it either, like with anything else in this country.  One of the reasons I'm leaving Thailand this year.  Not worth compromising my health.

Today i saw the police writing a fine to an old skinny grandma who parked her pickup on the road at a busy spot....she went beserk! I've never seen a grandma going wild like that against an officer of the police.

 

That's why nothing ever gets done here, there are many guns around as well......

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15 hours ago, Just Weird said:

I've no idea why the vendors wear masks as they have next to no effect; do their masks seal airtight onto the face or does the dirty air get in all the gaps?  The vendors are still breathing exactly the same air as everyone else in the area.

Some people prefer to see food handlers wearing face masks, hair nets and plastic gloves.

Nothing to do with air pollution. 

Dentists wear them because of the spray caused by drilling, etc. not because of air pollution.

 

People don't just breathe in.   Achoo.

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According to http://aqicn.org/ of the top 50 most populated cities in the world, in which Bangkok is the 31st most populated, today Bangkok has the 3rd worst air pollution.

 

The air quality in Shanghai is almost 4x better then Bangkok. The air quality in Beijing is almost 5x better then Bangkok. 

 

However, the air quality in 8 cities is unknown. 

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17 hours ago, Thian said:

People sure care and move to the subs away from the main roads in a nice moobaan with loads of green.

 

And sure something can be done, in China they decided that only cars with an even number on their licenseplate can drive on one day and the other day the uneven numbers are allowed to drive. That will sure work!

 

Also in China they use electric motocycles ONLY in certain cities....also electric cars don't pollute bad air in a city.

 

At places like Saphan Kwai bts the air is really bad, why you think nobody cares? Why do the streetvendors there wear facemasks ALL DAYS you think?

Even/odd license plates do NOT work! How are you supposed to get to work? They tried that in Athens and people just got 2 cars, one with even - one with odd, great solution!

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13 minutes ago, DavidB4 said:

Even/odd license plates do NOT work! How are you supposed to get to work? They tried that in Athens and people just got 2 cars, one with even - one with odd, great solution!

 

I will take the research from Yale over your opinion:

https://environment-review.yale.edu/fewer-cars-less-air-pollution

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