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BANGKOK 13 December 2018 23:36
JimShorts

Bangkok Air Pollution

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Even/odd license plates only serve to harm the poorer, the rich do have multiple cars, even the well off have more than one car. I'd imagine many would just create their own even/odd plates.

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15 hours ago, ChidlomDweller said:

I agree.  The air has been awful lately.  I live on the 27th floor and on some mornings can no longer see buildings 2-3km away, at all.  There doesn't seem to be political will to do anything about it either, like with anything else in this country.  One of the reasons I'm leaving Thailand this year.  Not worth compromising my health.

Everything is relative:

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Beijing 2017

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China has 300 coal-fired power stations under construction; countries around the world are building more than are being shut and replaced; as a species, as economic development continues globally, we are nowhere near even reversing the trend in air pollution, yet alone beginning to clean it up.

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1 hour ago, Suradit69 said:

Some people prefer to see food handlers wearing face masks, hair nets and plastic gloves.

Nothing to do with air pollution. 

Dentists wear them because of the spray caused by drilling, etc. not because of air pollution.

 

People don't just breathe in.   Achoo.

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I know that but that wasn't the issue, dirty air was what was being discussed.  Some posters seem to think that if a mask is worn, magically, dirty air does not get breathed in.

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18 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

I know that but that wasn't the issue, dirty air was what was being discussed.  Some posters seem to think that if a mask is worn, magically, dirty air does not get breathed in.

Not true, I do not see any posters saying a mask magically does not allow dirty air in. Only the opposite statement is made. 

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39 minutes ago, PerkinsCuthbert said:

Everything is relative:

 

Beijing 2017

Indeed Beijing had a worse air quality average in 2017, however today Bangkok air is 4x worse then Beijing. 

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46 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

Even/odd license plates only serve to harm the poorer, the rich do have multiple cars, even the well off have more than one car. I'd imagine many would just create their own even/odd plates.

Very true even/odd would have more negative economic impact on the poorer then the richer. However, aside form the very rich, in general people do not have more then 1 car, families often have more then 1 car. I'm sure people would create their plates and probably do already for other reasons, people will always bend and break the rules/laws, that doesn't mean rules/laws should not be implemented. 

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In over a decade in Bangkok this is the poorest Air Quality I've encountered. 

 

The pollution is 'visibly significant'...  

 

However, I'm not sure it is solely Bangkok which is suffering - There is also a thread running on this forum regarding the 'haze' in Hua Hun.

 

Perhaps something regional is happening ????

 

In Bangkok it is extremely 'still' with no breeze to seems to impact the issue. 

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1 hour ago, PerkinsCuthbert said:

Everything is relative:

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Beijing 2017

It's more obvious from a highrise.  There are mornings it looks like this.  I live near the Chidlom BTS and on bad days the buildings around Nana look like the ones in your picture.

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Medical masks do in fact work, but only for 30 minutes or so, provided they are moistened !

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In 10 years living in Thailand this is by far the worst air I have ever seen. Readings of 200 on the aqi were never encountered before last week. Now they are popping up seemingly every other day. Not only the intensity but the longevity is frightening.

 

Bangkok is not alone in this. Most of the Eastern Seaboard from chonburi down to rayong has had numbers in the 160s+ during this stretch.

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2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

However, I'm not sure it is solely Bangkok which is suffering - There is also a thread running on this forum regarding the 'haze' in Hua Hun.

 

Perhaps something regional is happening ????

 

In Bangkok it is extremely 'still' with no breeze to seems to impact the issue. 

This map shows the entire region and how wind/particle flow moves: https://airvisual.com/earth

 

If you zoom into Thailand (double click to zoom) You can see that the air quality from Khao Yai, down to Hua Hin and Rayong is all very poor.

 

You can also use this map which visualizes, just zoom into the Thailand area: http://aqicn.org/forecast/world/

 

According to a greenpeace report, 50% of the air pollution comes from burning. The other 50% from industry, cars, etc. Source: https://greenpeace.or.th/s/right-to-clean-air/PM2.5CityRankingsREV.pdf

 

Also, Bangkok is the most, or second most, traffic congested city in the world, traffic congestion increases vehicle emissions and degrades ambient air quality. This coupled with so many vehicles, many of which are old and/or have bad emissions, only makes the situation worse. Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4243514/

 

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21 hours ago, ChidlomDweller said:

I agree.  The air has been awful lately.  I live on the 27th floor and on some mornings can no longer see buildings 2-3km away, at all.  There doesn't seem to be political will to do anything about it either, like with anything else in this country.  One of the reasons I'm leaving Thailand this year.  Not worth compromising my health.

If I had a dollar........ I've heard people saying this for years not only in Thailand but in mining towns in Australia.  I'm leaving,  they declare.  Well do it... Just go.  Nobody cares. 

Funny thing is though within 12 months a lot of those people have or want to return. 

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5 hours ago, PerkinsCuthbert said:

China has 300 coal-fired power stations under construction; countries around the world are building more than are being shut and replaced; as a species, as economic development continues globally, we are nowhere near even reversing the trend in air pollution, yet alone beginning to clean it up.

They new generation low emission coal fired plants are replacing the very old polluting plants many if which have already closed.  China is also building a lot of clean generating capacity by way of nukes. 

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People come to city with 10 million people and 6 million cars and complain about pollution. Some people move to the tropics and complain about the heat. 

Unbelievable. 

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