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I shall be buying a car when I arrive and getting the Thai driving license. Just wondering if I can then drive into countries like Laos and Cambodia?

 

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Short answer is yes, certain documents required for different countries and you can only use some border crossings.

 

 

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Short answer is yes, certain documents required for different countries and you can only use some border crossings.
 
 
Thanks Peter for your answer. The link has some good information. Want to drive up to Luang Pranbang and a few other places.

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If you've never used the road from Vientiane to Luang Prabang, be warned that it's one 'hell of a drive'.  Not so much in distance but steep roads and hair pin bends over the mountains.  No chance of any speed so allow plenty of time. 

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13 minutes ago, HHTel said:

If you've never used the road from Vientiane to Luang Prabang, be warned that it's one 'hell of a drive'.  Not so much in distance but steep roads and hair pin bends over the mountains.  No chance of any speed so allow plenty of time. 

It took me about 7-8 hours 20 years ago. I hope the road has improved since then but equally there may be a few more vehicles on the road to slow you down. Back in those days there were a few hustlers on the roadside with antique firearms to whom our driver would speed past throwing a cigarette or two out of the window as he did so to keep them happy.

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Once you get into Malaysia you can also enter Singapore using the same circulation permit for Malaysia issued by the JPJ (the local road transport authority).  Office about 1 km from Sadao border crossing on RH side.  Need copies of everything. Vehicle book needs to be on driver's name.  Need to buy third party insurance upon entry in Malaysia AND again in Singapore.  Need to make license plate stickers upon entry in Malaysia as well, white on black.  Insurance shop can arrange.

Note that Thai insurance is NOT valid outside of Thailand which is an important consideration if the car is still quite new/valuable with class 1 cover. Do not know if you can buy comprehensive insurance at the border.  Doubt it.  I only cross borders with my 20 year old Toyota Tiger so no problem if something happens.  Also provides some respect with the aggressive Malaysian drivers (who luckily mostly drive small s..t cars.).

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One more thing:  Malaysia does not permit very dark tinted windows.  If you have those get the  film removed before travelling as trying to scrape it off outside of the JPJ office is a nightmare (been there, done that)   If   you really need  to have it use only light tints, less than 50%, and NOTHING on the windscreen.

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5 hours ago, uffe123 said:

forget about Cambodia they told me NO

 

Crossing to Cambodia is ok at Koh kong.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, gaff said:

 

Crossing to Cambodia is ok at Koh kong.

 

 

Cambodia entry is OK at Koh Kong and O'Smach. Ban Pakkard is a maybe (seen many Thai vehicles cross there, but they are likely told not to drive further than Pailin). Exiting is OK pretty much everywhere, though I wouldn't attempt exiting at Ban Laem as the Cambodians might block you (that border doesn't allow cars to cross in either direction).

 

Another border to try is the brand new international border crossing at Ban Khao Din/Phnom Dai (Sampov Lun). This border supposedly opened on March 30, but according to the Phnom Penh post will only open on May 18. I suggest heading there after May 18 to see if they will let cars through. So far, only Thai trucks have been allowed across there.

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6 hours ago, bascat said:

One more thing:  Malaysia does not permit very dark tinted windows.  If you have those get the  film removed before travelling as trying to scrape it off outside of the JPJ office is a nightmare (been there, done that)   If   you really need  to have it use only light tints, less than 50%, and NOTHING on the windscreen.

Doesn't Malaysia require an RFID chip for Thai cars since last year? Strange that nobody seems to be talking about this. Unless this plan has been delayed or isn't enforced by the Malaysians at this time. However, they are enforcing it on Singaporean vehicles coming in through Singapore.

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6 hours ago, bascat said:

Once you get into Malaysia you can also enter Singapore using the same circulation permit for Malaysia issued by the JPJ (the local road transport authority).  Office about 1 km from Sadao border crossing on RH side.  Need copies of everything. Vehicle book needs to be on driver's name.  Need to buy third party insurance upon entry in Malaysia AND again in Singapore.  Need to make license plate stickers upon entry in Malaysia as well, white on black.  Insurance shop can arrange.

Note that Thai insurance is NOT valid outside of Thailand which is an important consideration if the car is still quite new/valuable with class 1 cover. Do not know if you can buy comprehensive insurance at the border.  Doubt it.  I only cross borders with my 20 year old Toyota Tiger so no problem if something happens.  Also provides some respect with the aggressive Malaysian drivers (who luckily mostly drive small s..t cars.).

I was told that Singapore requires Thai cars to purchase Singaporean insurance before arriving at the port of entry. This according to one of the insurance agents at the Sadao border. This despite the fact that Malaysian insurance is supposed to cover vehicles entering Singapore and Brunei as well.

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8 hours ago, HHTel said:

If you've never used the road from Vientiane to Luang Prabang, be warned that it's one 'hell of a drive'.  Not so much in distance but steep roads and hair pin bends over the mountains.  No chance of any speed so allow plenty of time. 

There are two routes from Vientiane to Luang Prabang. The old road, which is scenic and winding via Kasi and Phou Khoun and the "new road" via Kasi to Muang Nan where it joins route 4. Normally I would suggest heading along the latter, but last year during the rainy season a major landslide destroyed part of that road making it a hair raising and very dangerous ordeal now; even worse during or after rain. Vehicles heading that way may find themselves waiting hours for the road to open for only an hour or so, as road crews work to clear the landslide and fix the damaged road.

 

The older road takes about an hour longer but is much safer until such time the damaged sections of the Kasi to Muang Nan road have been fixed. I expect this won't happen until the end of this year or even later as the rainy season is coming up soon, likely leading to additional landslides. Alternative routes are via Paklay and route 4 or via Paksan up to Phonsavan. Both are much longer than going the normal way via Vang Vieng, Kasi and Phou Khoun.

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12 hours ago, jimster said:

Cambodia entry is OK at Koh Kong and O'Smach. Ban Pakkard is a maybe (seen many Thai vehicles cross there, but they are likely told not to drive further than Pailin). Exiting is OK pretty much everywhere, though I wouldn't attempt exiting at Ban Laem as the Cambodians might block you (that border doesn't allow cars to cross in either direction).

 

Another border to try is the brand new international border crossing at Ban Khao Din/Phnom Dai (Sampov Lun). This border supposedly opened on March 30, but according to the Phnom Penh post will only open on May 18. I suggest heading there after May 18 to see if they will let cars through. So far, only Thai trucks have been allowed across there.

 

 

Wrong, not Ban Pakkard, only people working in hotels or close area business.

At least not for foreigners.

 

And do you have google map location of new border ? Thank you for the info.

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, gaff said:

 

 

Wrong, not Ban Pakkard, only people working in hotels or close area business.

At least not for foreigners.

 

And do you have google map location of new border ? Thank you for the info.

 

 

 

OK that could be. In any case, I saw dozens of Thai cars in Prom (the Cambodian border town opposite Ban Pakkard) as well as in Pailin, which means they were allowed to enter there. Perhaps foreigners driving Thai cars aren't allowed to, but Thais are. In a sense it's a bit odd though, because there is no distinction between Thais and foreigners driving cars into Cambodia at O'Smach and Koh Kong.

 

As for the new border crossing at Ban Khao Din it's written บ้านเขาดิน in Thai. The GPS coordinates are

13°25'56.3"N 102°21'30.6"E

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