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Court decides: AirBnB illegal in Thailand for daily and weekly rental

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9 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

The court decision is about condos because the cases brought to court were about condos. It does not necessarily mean that the law cited in the court decision does no also apply to other types of residential premises. Perhaps someone can look up the law and post the relevant section here (I have to rush off now to a dentist appointment)

 

so the headline and article are misleading? is it just a cut and paste job with no value added by the OP?

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2 hours ago, Richard Pumpaloaf said:

The laws here are more like guidelines than actually laws

vague suggestions

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2 hours ago, KittenKong said:

Neither. However you did not understand what I wrote.

People (i.e. owners or operators) who rent out (note the "out") property on a short-term basis should have a hotel licence, or should be registered under the Hotel Act if they have few rooms. Airbnb could easily ask to see that licence or registration. Those who have neither are by definition operating illegally and Airbnb must know this perfectly well.

This has nothing to do with the tenant/occupant. It is entirely to do with the owner/operator of the property.

People renting out property for a month or more are not subject to this requirement, so they can happily continue to use Airbnb without providing any licence or registration to Airbnb. But their ads would have to indicate a minimum booking period of one month, and not one day as they currently all seem to do.

All that aside, the property owner or operator is indeed required to register any foreigner who stays in his property overnight, regardless of how long he stays or where he comes from or indeed whether he pays for the accommodation or not. However that is an Immigration requirement that has nothing to do with the Hotel Act and is not relevant to this discussion.

Why create that hoop and lose business. Owners agree to an entire list of requirements that make  sending licenses redundant. Airbnb has not broken any laws. Don't know why airbnb is singled out, one can find condos breaking the law on any of the major hosting sites.

The law is posted in the elevators of most condos affected stating fines for owners along with guests. That is were it should be enforced on a local level. Shutting down hosting sites that serve a vital interest in support of tourism is pure stupidity. How do you intend to replace it ?

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16 minutes ago, reenatinnakor said:

Accommodation is so cheap in thailand... Why would anyone want to use airbnb here? In the US and UK you are paying 100 quid for a crappy hotel if in the city, airbnb will be a third of that in a decent place. But thailand you can get a decent hotel for 20 quid so no need for airbnb.

Uber is a different matter since all the taxis here scam you.

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You obviously don't understand the business. My guesthouse averages over 90% occupancy. If I relied only on walk-ins that number would drop to 20%. Booking fees average 15-18% and that is just added on as a fixed cost when determining rents.

If you have a better method of selling out rooms please share it with me.

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2 hours ago, Richard Pumpaloaf said:

The laws here are more like guidelines than actually laws

The laws are there just in case.  I consider them like swords of Damocles.  Just hanging over head ready to drop if some Thai officials decide to act against you.

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1 hour ago, reenatinnakor said:

Accommodation is so cheap in thailand... Why would anyone want to use airbnb here? In the US and UK you are paying 100 quid for a crappy hotel if in the city, airbnb will be a third of that in a decent place. But thailand you can get a decent hotel for 20 quid so no need for airbnb.

Uber is a different matter since all the taxis here scam you.

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You obviously have never used AirBnB's in Thailand or anywhere for that matter. They are generally nicer and cheaper than most hotels. I use AirBnB every couple months to rent out a brand new, super modern condo in Hua Hin/Cha Am. It has two rooms, two bathrooms, living room, and a full western kitchen. 1,200 baht after the service charge and cleaning fee. Usually there are 4 or 5 of us so at 200-300 baht per person it's cheaper than a hostel. 

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16 hours ago, shady86 said:

How can they regulate this? Airbnb is not located in Thailand and acting as a middle man. There is no money transaction done between owner and tenant too.

I am presuming they can monitor Airbnb websites looking for illegal booking opportunities.

 

Who says they have to go after Airbnb, the owner who facilitates the arrangement could be charged?  

 

If I was a condo owner, living in it, I would see this as a positive thing. 

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An Aussie mate stays in an apartment  near Bangchak BTS for 2 - 3 weeks every year, since the law came in, he has to sign a contract for 30 days. However the one month price is discounted to cover 2 -3 weeks stay. The room has kitchen, TV and microwave and is only B6,000 for 3 weeks. This makes the contract legal.

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So make a new law to make it legal.

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14 hours ago, observer90210 said:

The Thai Hoteliers mafia has apparently done the right P+R,  to the proper people...

Actually, most condo (homeowners) associations do not want short term renting.  Condo's are residential units not hotel units and most neighbors don't want that kind of activity.  Many Homeowner Associations are rewriting their by-laws (if not included)  to prevent the short term rental and with just cause.  Who needs people coming and going like a hotel in a residential building?

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Illegal for all or just Farangs !  it’s like the electricity charges here where I live the Thais are charging between 6 and 10 baht per KW used  yet a law was passed earlier this year stating electricity charges should be charged as per PEA pricing but it appears no one is taking any notice. 

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