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BANGKOK 20 October 2018 17:51
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Problems with Immigration Official On Departing Thailand

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This week I drove my old German friend to Suvarnabhumi and said goodbye to him.  After a short while his wife's phone rang with a very angry German husband on the phone.

 

Just to lay out his care and attention in getting a Re-Entry Permit Stamp a a good month before his departure, he is on  a retirement visa extension.  His EU Passport had all the required TM6 departure card etc.  But, there is a particular Officer who seems to enjoy victimizing any Europeans or (Farang) who present their passports for a departure stamp at his departure passport control booth.  He does not understand Visa Extension stamps, Non O Visa's which have been transferred from an expired passport to new valid passport.  He can't speak English or German well at all.  "You stay in Thailand long time" is all he can utter before he then makes the victim stand for  an unreasonably extended time on the red footprint stickers on the floor where they are supposed to photo the Farang before giving them a departure stamp.  He tries to summon his superviser with a sort of button he slams (smacks) on his counter numerous times, meanwhile the queue behind is backing up.   Then the traveller is summoned to the bosses desk for his parousal of the traveller's passport with all the extension stamps in.  The boss can't speak English either.  My friend who is  78 years old, can barely speak English anyway.

 

I personally had exactly the same experience in January.  The officer in the uniform is a nasty piece of work.  I had a Re-Entry Permit, Non O Visa which I have kept alive since 2003, (that really seemed to be huge red flag for him) I have the original Visa Number on Visa Transfer stamp on the first page of my current passport.  I had to point this out to the boss myself at his little desk behind the scenes.  It took about 20 minutes all told.

 

I was really surprised that they have such officers in a such an important position.  If I didn't have a family here.  I would probably not bother with being here at all.  Next time I go out of this country I would like to photo the guy.  That would probably be illegal though.

 

Meanwhile downstairs on the Ground Floor, the six tourist police all have their heads down playing with their smartphones in their glass cubicle oblivious to everything.

 

Dear me.

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I had a bit of a problem going out last time.. the IO looked at my passport and visa stamps etc and called over a superior who took me aside to an interview desk..  "you overstay!"...  I said no I haven't overstayed..."yes!   you overstay"... I tried to explain that I'm on an OA retirement visa and after 1st year I went to Laos and came back and had permission to stay until about 6 weeks after I was actually leaving.. I showed him the stamp showing that I was still on permission to stay.. he wasn't convinced.. eventually an officer senior to him came over and looked m passport over.. he didn't say much.. eventually they told me I could go.. I thanked them very much and gave them a 'wai'.. and went on my way..  I just put it down to an inexperienced officer.. or two.. Otherwise I've never had a problem over the last 11 years..

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Obviously some of the posters above have not traveled very much, Thailand get it right most times at Immigration better than 5 other countries that I will not mention here

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1 hour ago, Laza 45 said:

I had a bit of a problem going out last time.. the IO looked at my passport and visa stamps etc and called over a superior who took me aside to an interview desk..  "you overstay!"...  I said no I haven't overstayed..."yes!   you overstay"... I tried to explain that I'm on an OA retirement visa and after 1st year I went to Laos and came back and had permission to stay until about 6 weeks after I was actually leaving.. I showed him the stamp showing that I was still on permission to stay.. he wasn't convinced.. eventually an officer senior to him came over and looked m passport over.. he didn't say much.. eventually they told me I could go.. I thanked them very much and gave them a 'wai'.. and went on my way..  I just put it down to an inexperienced officer.. or two.. Otherwise I've never had a problem over the last 11 years..

I was accused of being 25 days overstay and all I was doing was my 90 day report for my retiremen exts, I have never done another report in person since.

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My landlord told me once the authorities came looking for me late at night while I was in Vietnam. They told him my visa had expired months ago. The reality was I had gotten a new passport and visa transfered and since extended several time. 

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Of course, I don't know if it is the same person, but by happen chance I have encountered the same gentleman 3 times at the exit desk. He seemed to get great enjoyment in delaying travelers. If there was nothing to question he would just sit there and just look at me and my passport.  It appeared he just wanted to delay everyone in the line.

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After a short while his wife's phone rang with a very angry German husband on the phone.

 

    OP, may I suggest that the German punctuality and accuracy doesn't exist here?

 

   Your friend can hardly speak English, the problems are already starting. 

 

   I've seen very angry Germans, very angry Brit's but also very angry Americans at Thai Immigration. Which is exactly the problem why some IO let some people wait longer than others.

 

Most people have a lot of stress when traveling, but the IO is the last person where I'd lose my temper. A Hello, or a wai, a smile, well dressed and goodbye. 

 

 

 

 

 

   

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The only problem I’ve experienced is long slow lines. Most of the officers are ok and some seem exhausted  because all the people. 

Maybe the person had a difficult day. I try to address them with hello

in Thai and seems to cheer them up a bit. Do the same in China Great hello in Chinese other than that I’m limited to toilet beer and other simple things. 

 

Taiwan an office noticed I had a bottle of water which kinda got him going. So furture trips trashed the bottle before getting to the counter. 

 

Same as with customers in Taiwan had cards with English one side and Chinese the other (based in China) buyer saw the Chinese and sulked up. Made set of cards English only for Taiwan. 

 

Sometimes little things get people going. 

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i've travelled to over 50 countries, i spent 2.5 years backpacking round the world using land borders wherever possible. the only place i've had any problem was leaving pakistan to enter india where the IO made a half hearted attempt to get me to pay a bribe. i played dumb and he let me through.

 

i've never had or seen anything but professional behaviour from thai IOs

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4 hours ago, samsensam said:

 

i've travelled to over 50 countries, i spent 2.5 years backpacking round the world using land borders wherever possible. the only place i've had any problem was leaving pakistan to enter india where the IO made a half hearted attempt to get me to pay a bribe. i played dumb and he let me through.

 

i've never had or seen anything but professional behaviour from thai IOs

Same  with me. I spent ten years (1999-2009) visiting over 40 countries, some more than once, and never did I have an issue with Immigration at airports, or land borders.In fact the only issue was other people holding up the queue. 

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I have been accused of being on overstay when leaving once. I wasn't on overstay. The IO was looking at the wrong page. Needless to say no apology was given.

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1 hour ago, Briggsy said:

I have been accused of being on overstay when leaving once. I wasn't on overstay. The IO was looking at the wrong page. Needless to say no apology was given.

There have been a lot of complaints of long lines at the immigration desks..  my feeling is that they have been bringing  in more IOs  to meet demand and perhaps some are not up to speed on every aspect of their job.. just a thought...

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