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BANGKOK 14 November 2018 09:37

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4 hours ago, SOTIRIOS said:

...duhh...seems like you may be too late...

 

...it's hers now...you get nothing...???

 

...only if she decides to take you for the house too....

 

 

...if you 'don't mind'...why bother at all...???

Yes, Its now in her name. I`m not worried but I still want a lease contract on it wich is fine by her.  There is no house on the land now.

 

She asked me if I was worried about letting her buy it in her name, but I said "no. Because there is no house on it now, and women dont settle for less then everything. So if she was going to screw me, she would wait until the house was build so she could get that too"?

 

Why bother at all? bother about what ?

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3 hours ago, TEFLKrabi said:


A usufruct gives you the right of abode at an address, even if the property changes ownership. No money is paid except for the B180 to the land office. There’s also no tax paid every year.


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Are there any lease fees one have to pay? Or is it one the lease rent one agrees with the owner?

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If you live in a city like Khon Kaen and wife dies or does not want you anymore the lease will be upheld by a judge and her family will be ordered to stay away from you. Will cost you legal fees and emotional torment. As long as the lease was not entered when you are married to her then lease no good after divorce. 

 

If you build a house in the village and you are not wanted or she dies and family does not want you then no document in the world will save you. You will leave all behind easily or the hard way and if you want your life safe then you will leave easily. 

 

Undertand these nuances or simply roll the roll the dice and hope for the best and write off everything you spend to build a house. 

 

Love is a fickled thing but you are not going against one woman you are going against the village if things don’t go perfectly her way. 

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6 hours ago, inThailand said:

The only safe and secure way to at least have some rights over your investment in the land and house is a registered 30 yr lease.  And this will prevent her from mortgaging the property which her family will insist on. 

Certainly know about that. Reckon mother was to old to now.

Well she wasn't to old when she gave the 10,000 to the POS BIL that I loaned to her, instead of giving it back to me 

 

They will mortgage the property for their other immediate (if not more distant ) relatives, as they may not have anything & need a house

 

Then after all the promises / ect they give, you end up the creek with out a paddle ( no recourse ) as it was all done with your wife's / GF property you paid for

 

You would not even know unless you keep track of Chanote (you may well be looking at a copy ) which doesn't state the Mortgage 

 

PS: Usufrut or no Usufrut 

 

I use to do street view google & see the note nailed to the door (the place is empty & can't sell )

 

Unfortunate now that MIL (ex in my mind ) is in hospital

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29 minutes ago, Frode said:

I know there is always a chance. I`m not concerned now. I sleep well in the nighttime even though the land is not on my name now. With the lease on my name, then I guess that I`ll be safe for the lease periode.

 

Even though women is women, thai or not, one must evaluate all situation. That meaning, that if I would be 80, dirty and poor and my chosen one would be a 25 year old beauty with 10 years experience from Pattaya one should maybe be a little careful of one is doing. (Dont misunderstand, one should always be careful)

 

In my case we are similar age and similar social status. She have never suffered any needs and have always had what she have been needing. So have her family. 

I understand all the warnings though, the stories of sadness is many amongst the Thai/farang relationships .

 

Neither do I put all my lifesavings into my home in Thailand. If I should loose everything I will still have a home to come back to in my home country.

If I would loose the land it would be an expensive lesson but life would go on... 

Even when you have a Lease ,doesn't mean it's safe

Doesn't matter about age or status 

You will never know about the family dealings

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48 minutes ago, Frode said:

She asked me if I was worried about letting her buy it in her name, but I said "no. Because there is no house on it now, and women dont settle for less then everything. So if she was going to screw me, she would wait until the house was build so she could get that too"?

 

You also said that the family was the same status as yourself

So I find it wierd that she is now buying a block of land in her name, which means she doesn't have a house 

 

So as i just mentioned in the other couple of posts you will be screwed as your got no idea of the family dealings 

 

Looks like your providing land/house for starters & then a vehicle

 

 

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Keep something in mind. Any leases signed between you and your girlfriend MUST be filed with The Land Office of jurisdiction at the same time of the property transfer from the former owner to your girlfriend. You cannot add leasing agreements once the transfer has been completed.

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3 hours ago, peterb17 said:

Oh dear.

 

Previous posts - buying land with rubber trees ( at the moment not such a good idea) and where to buy diamonds for the gf.

 

If you are a very wealthy guy - there is no problem buying gifts for your gf.

 

if not - take it easy ! 

My intentions were never to buy land with rubber trees. I was just curious about the value of land with rubber trees. My girlfriend owns a rubber tree farm.

About diamonds, The intention was a diamond wedding ring, Max value 35 000 bath.

 

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Keep something in mind. Any leases signed between you and your girlfriend MUST be filed with The Land Office of jurisdiction at the same time of the property transfer from the former owner to your girlfriend. You cannot add leasing agreements once the transfer has been completed.

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4 hours ago, Muhendis said:

Usufruct or lease will give some security whilst everything is fine and dandy with you and your wife, but should she die before you, you must ask yourself if her family will maintain the same good feelings towards you or will they make you want to be somewhere else. Also what will life be like for you on her land if she decides to separate/divorce.

If I`m leasing it,  then i have the right to use it as my own. What kind of monkeybuisness could they do to make my life miserable there?

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3 hours ago, moe666 said:

Lets see 30 year lease relationship maybe 5 years or less, Yes you have lease but family make it impossible for you to access land and house. Eait until u are married a while to see were this is going

How can they make it impossible for me to acess the land and house? There is acsess from goverment road and while I`m leasing it they have no right to build anything there

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46 minutes ago, Wake Up said:

If you live in a city like Khon Kaen and wife dies or does not want you anymore the lease will be upheld by a judge and her family will be ordered to stay away from you. Will cost you legal fees and emotional torment. As long as the lease was not entered when you are married to her then lease no good after divorce. 

 

If you build a house in the village and you are not wanted or she dies and family does not want you then no document in the world will save you. You will leave all behind easily or the hard way and if you want your life safe then you will leave easily. 

 

Undertand these nuances or simply roll the roll the dice and hope for the best and write off everything you spend to build a house. 

 

Love is a fickled thing but you are not going against one woman you are going against the village if things don’t go perfectly her way. 

So what you say is that the lease should be signed when married? 

 

Btw, We are not building in her village. Her closest relative lives 1,5 hour away and she also have no connection to the place we are going to build.

 

Its dangerous to cross the road but most people do it from time to time anyway... 

 

Sometimes one gotta take a chance but always keep a back -up solution..

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29 minutes ago, BEVUP said:

You also said that the family was the same status as yourself

So I find it wierd that she is now buying a block of land in her name, which means she doesn't have a house 

 

So as i just mentioned in the other couple of posts you will be screwed as your got no idea of the family dealings 

 

Looks like your providing land/house for starters & then a vehicle

 

 

She already have 3 houses, but none of them located were I want to live. She will pay a part in the house and she is also providing the veichle...

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