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BANGKOK 13 November 2018 10:29
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REPORT: Do it Yourself Retirement Visa (Pattaya) Chonburi Immigration

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Once the visa application is accepted, there is only a minuscule chance that you will not get the visa and initial 90-day stamp. Most likely, they will not agree to add the one-year extension immediately to the initial 90-days when you go back for the visa stamp (although the rules allow them to do so if the senior official is so inclined). There is no harm in politely asking about it.

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1 hour ago, likerdup1 said:

The reason for the two trips? Because I could not get same day service arriving after 9:30am that day.

FYI and for others you could of requested them to send it to you by EMS by paying a few extra baht.

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I got hammered here on TV for paying 15K plus I believe 1900 to have mine done. Had to go to BKK first time to get income Doc. Don't remember any certification on the back. Gave my lady income doc, lease, pp and two photos. Picked up my extension I recall a few days later. Now I just renewed last month, took ten minutes of my time plus I can call her anytime if I have a question or problem. Bargain for me because I have no patience with that crap, I just want it done. I have residency in both Brazil and Costa Rica and each cost me thousands and years to complete. Here it basically took one trip to BKK and if my funds had been seasoned it would have taken less than an hour on my part. It is good though that you got the experience!

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2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

FYI and for others you could of requested them to send it to you by EMS by paying a few extra baht.

What is EMS? Is that an overnight delivery service?

 

Thank you for pointing this out.

 

There was an option to have it mailed via regular Thailand post but I didn't elect that. Absolutely I could have had it mailed but I personally was leery of having the document sent by post because it cost me $50 and several hours of my time to secure.

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2 minutes ago, likerdup1 said:

What is EMS? Is that an overnight delivery service?

It is Express Mail Service. From Bangkok to Pattaya it would be overnight service to more distant locations it is 2 day service. It is very dependable and you can track it all the way online.

EMS is the only service that the legalization section offers.

There is even a mail in service available for the legalization service.

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Glad to hear they will actually do a Non-O stamp at Jomtien with an income-doc now.  I was given a custom list of requirements when applying, which had only partial resemblance to the official TM-doc, and did not include the ability to use an embassy income doc at all.  I was told I needed to transfer the "in the bank" monetary requirement (not income-based) to a Thai bank, season it, and then apply.

 

I was denied after providing the list the OP supplied, plus family (married to a Thai) docs, plus bank-books proving the income stated on my USA-embassy-doc was genuine.   Not sure if the fact that this one was based on retirement was the reason it worked in this case - but congratulations, in any case.

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EMS (express mail service) in Thailand is run by the Thai Postal Company.  And it is very reliable.  Almost all passports are delivered using this service.  

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On 6/14/2018 at 5:18 PM, BritTim said:

Once the visa application is accepted, there is only a minuscule chance that you will not get the visa and initial 90-day stamp. Most likely, they will not agree to add the one-year extension immediately to the initial 90-days when you go back for the visa stamp (although the rules allow them to do so if the senior official is so inclined). There is no harm in politely asking about it.

it's the done thing at Jomtien immigration. no need to ask for it.

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23 hours ago, JAZZDOG said:

I got hammered here on TV for paying 15K plus I believe 1900 to have mine done. Had to go to BKK first time to get income Doc. Don't remember any certification on the back. Gave my lady income doc, lease, pp and two photos. Picked up my extension I recall a few days later. Now I just renewed last month, took ten minutes of my time plus I can call her anytime if I have a question or problem. Bargain for me because I have no patience with that crap, I just want it done. I have residency in both Brazil and Costa Rica and each cost me thousands and years to complete. Here it basically took one trip to BKK and if my funds had been seasoned it would have taken less than an hour on my part. It is good though that you got the experience!

15K or 1900 baht? I get a letter from my bank stating I have the 800K, go to the photocopy place next to Immigration who copy for me all the relevant info, then submit to an Immigration officer, pay my 1900 baht and come back next day to collect my passport stamped with my new extension. Hardly a hassle to save 13,100 baht.

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Very good report. More expats should do their own Visa and extensions. I am amazed at how many people throw away money getting a visa service to do what they could do themselves. I was amazed at how much erroneous information

on the O Visa was floating around on the internet. Some of it was promulgated by an expat who has a YouTube channel and has been here for eleven years. This guy told me that ALL my income had to be in a Thai bank and it had to be "seasoned" regardless of whether I was using money in the bank or monthly income. When I got to Jomtien IO, I was given a handout that shot down almost everything he had told me.

The hand-drawn map requirement has to be the most moronic requirement yet devised by IO. Clearly a case of a new office chief throwing his weight around.  I have not been required to do one of those for my past two extensions. I am hoping the requirement will be scrapped by the time I do my next extension in October. 

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Went to the legal department of Thailand Dept of Consular Affairs at Chang Wattana government facility Bangkok 3rd floor and got the embassy letter certified. (The certification is actually a sticker that is affixed to the back of the letter saying stating that the signature of the US notary is authentic)

Anybody else ever have to do this? And if so, was this also related to Chonburi?

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On 6/14/2018 at 6:58 AM, JAZZDOG said:

I got hammered here on TV for paying 15K plus I believe 1900 to have mine done. Had to go to BKK first time to get income Doc. Don't remember any certification on the back. Gave my lady income doc, lease, pp and two photos. Picked up my extension I recall a few days later. Now I just renewed last month, took ten minutes of my time plus I can call her anytime if I have a question or problem. Bargain for me because I have no patience with that crap, I just want it done. I have residency in both Brazil and Costa Rica and each cost me thousands and years to complete. Here it basically took one trip to BKK and if my funds had been seasoned it would have taken less than an hour on my part. It is good though that you got the experience!

I got no problem with what you did.  If I were retired, I by definition probably would have a fair amount of free time on my hand, so running a few errands once a  year would not necessarily be a big issue.  But the big issue for me would be doing something over and over again, returning because some new piece of paper was asked for, rounding up paper from the Thais such as a landlord or rental agent, etc.   I am more concerned about getting the darn thing than spending some extra money to get it done.  Obviously there is a point where the price of an agent could become too high.  Pisses me off that the Thais make it challenging for a person to go there and spend money! 

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10 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

I got no problem with what you did.  If I were retired, I by definition probably would have a fair amount of free time on my hand, so running a few errands once a  year would not necessarily be a big issue.  But the big issue for me would be doing something over and over again, returning because some new piece of paper was asked for, rounding up paper from the Thais such as a landlord or rental agent, etc.   I am more concerned about getting the darn thing than spending some extra money to get it done.  Obviously there is a point where the price of an agent could become too high.  Pisses me off that the Thais make it challenging for a person to go there and spend money! 

And actually there were two other issues. One that these forums go on and on about the different docs some IO needs where others don't and even in the same IO depending on whos at the desk. Not a problem with my lady as she knows everyone there and it goes thru everytime, minimal BS docs. Secondly if I have any question or problem I call her and she is always there with the correct answer. And I imagine if I ever screwed something up, forgot to report etc. then I got a friend to make things right, kinda like insurance. I've had to go thru this in several other countries and spent countless months and even years waiting for results. At this point in my life I got allot more money than time to waste on BS.

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Sorry, maybe I am stupid but why #1,2,3??

 

I make an appt. at the US Embassy in BKK for my income certificate.

It took me 15 minutes a few weeks ago to get the embossed certificate swearing to my income.

That is all the Chonburi office has ever required.

You can actually do all this in one day if taking the bus.  108 b bus ride, get the cert. ride back.

So why all your steps on this?  Never heard of the notary authentication.  Am I missing something?

 

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