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Riding a Dual Sports Bike in Chinag Mai

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I'm getting real interested in possibly buying a bike like a Honda CRF 250 or a Kawasaki KLX 250, and have questions for someone who rides locally.  I'm a mountain biker and love riding the trails on Doi Suthep but it takes a lot of time riding up the mountain, and so I don't ride the trails as much as I'd like.  I'm living in CNX for the next year and had been thinking of buying a scooter to just get around town but now I'm thinking maybe a dual-sports bike might serve both purposes.  Just would like to know more from people already riding them around here, wondering if a used bike would be prudent or not, and if so where's a good place to look for them, what do you think of the dealers/service centers around here, what are some trails you like riding as day trips, etc. 

 

 

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I'm a few years out of Chiang Mai now after living there for 10 years but the dual sports were my favourite for the city. Both CM Kawasaki and Honda dealerships have strong potential for good service. I had both the KLX and D tracker, along with other big bikes and a scooter parked at my house at all times. For riding in the city or the trails anywhere in the North West they were the better bikes.... Sometimes for the simple reasons, ie get blocked in parking somewhere and you may be able to ride forward over the curb, something you can't do in a scooter with a tire the same height as some CM curbs. I put high 80 k's on both 250 trouble free, and recently have been riding my bro in laws CRF, which is equally an excellent bike. Myself I'd choose the KLX for trails and would go with the smoother CRF for city only.

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When I get back to Thailand, a KLX is the first new bike I'll buy.  Maybe a 250 but may have to settle for a 150 because I am short.  I grew up riding small dirt bikes in the US.  I love mud. 

 

When I was in Thailand in 1977/78, I had a Suzuki TS 125 2-stroke dual sport. There were a lot of dirt roads in Loei back then.

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7 hours ago, Fishenough said:

I'm a few years out of Chiang Mai now after living there for 10 years but the dual sports were my favourite for the city. Both CM Kawasaki and Honda dealerships have strong potential for good service. I had both the KLX and D tracker, along with other big bikes and a scooter parked at my house at all times. For riding in the city or the trails anywhere in the North West they were the better bikes.... Sometimes for the simple reasons, ie get blocked in parking somewhere and you may be able to ride forward over the curb, something you can't do in a scooter with a tire the same height as some CM curbs. I put high 80 k's on both 250 trouble free, and recently have been riding my bro in laws CRF, which is equally an excellent bike. Myself I'd choose the KLX for trails and would go with the smoother CRF for city only.

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Nice looking bike.  Thanks for the feedback.  When I first moved here I thought my mountain bike would be fine to get around town and exploring the trails on Doi Suthep which is something I love to do, not to mention it’s just a great way to stay in shape.  But, it just takes so much time out of a day.  So, a dual sport bike just sounds perfect.

 

The only issue is the cost.  Those bikes are SO expensive!  I can’t really afford to lay out $5,000 for one!  I’m hoping I can find a used one for around $2,000 but don’t see any listed in classified, and more importantly, I worry about the use/abuse issues of buying a used one.

 

Hoping somebody can advise on where / how to find a good used bike.

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8 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

When I get back to Thailand, a KLX is the first new bike I'll buy.  Maybe a 250 but may have to settle for a 150 because I am short.  I grew up riding small dirt bikes in the US.  I love mud. 

 

When I was in Thailand in 1977/78, I had a Suzuki TS 125 2-stroke dual sport. There were a lot of dirt roads in Loei back then.

LOL; I've never been a big fan of mud as a mountain biker but it sounds like it would be fun as hell on a dirt bike.  When I was a kid I played (American) football and used to LOVE playing on muddy fields; kind of a primal type thing I think 🙂

 

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4 hours ago, Kohsamida said:

The only issue is the cost.  Those bikes are SO expensive!

The CRF250L is considerably cheaper new here than in your home country, i know its cheaper here than in the UK where i come from. In fact, i think both bikes are outstanding value for money.

KLX has Excel rims, fatter stronger spokes, adjustable suspension, bullet proof motor.

CRF has, er,  a huge aftermarket for bling...

S/H - check out Baht & Sold website, plenty of decent KLX for 75-95k. CRF's for 85k up.

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8 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

The CRF250L is considerably cheaper new here than in your home country, i know its cheaper here than in the UK where i come from. In fact, i think both bikes are outstanding value for money.

KLX has Excel rims, fatter stronger spokes, adjustable suspension, bullet proof motor.

CRF has, er,  a huge aftermarket for bling...

S/H - check out Baht & Sold website, plenty of decent KLX for 75-95k. CRF's for 85k up.

Cost is a relative term.  New here in Thailand the Honda seems to be around 163k which is way over my budget but 75-95 is about right so I guess I'll be checking out BahtSold website to see what there is. 

 

I really just want something to get out on the trails around town and for getting around town; nothing fancy BUT i don't want to inherit maintanance headaches which is what makes me nervous about a used bike, especially one used off-road.

 

Do you know of any trustworthy dealers in the area that sell used bikes?

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11 hours ago, Kohsamida said:

Hoping somebody can advise on where / how to find a good used bike.

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The KLX 150s are cheap and pretty simple.  Air cooled, carburetor, kick and electric start.  KLX 250 is about 20 kg lighter than the CRF250L.

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The little Honda really cant cut it off-road with its excess weight , non-adjustable leaky suspension and a single radiator., A second hand KLX is the way to go ( off road ) .Or go brand new with a Lifan 200 dual sport for 48,000.

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1 hour ago, ktm jeff said:

The little Honda really cant cut it off-road with its excess weight , non-adjustable leaky suspension and a single radiator., A second hand KLX is the way to go ( off road ) .Or go brand new with a Lifan 200 dual sport for 48,000.

In standard form they can't, modified they are perfectly capable. 

 

OP if you go Honda make sure it's had some mods done to make it off-road worthy

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10 hours ago, ktm jeff said:

The little Honda really cant cut it off-road with its excess weight , non-adjustable leaky suspension and a single radiator., A second hand KLX is the way to go ( off road ) .Or go brand new with a Lifan 200 dual sport for 48,000.

Thanks for mentioning Lifan.  There are some other posts on here about their bikes and it sounds like they are pretty decent bikes, especially considering they are a third of the price of Honda/Kawasaki.  I have no problem with a Thai built Chinese bike.  There are owners reviews of them posted on the internet that sound positive, so thanks for mentioning this option.

 

From what I read online, there is also the Thai built Chinese Keeway TXM200.  Many seem to think it is slightly better.  Any thoughts on that?

 

Also, would you happen to know closest dealers for either?  Can’t seem to find one nearby by Googling.  I’m in Chiang Mai.

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10 hours ago, ktm jeff said:

 

Do you ride a KTM?  I came across a great blog written by a KTM rider which is really what really got me interested in getting a dual sport bike.  The article was about a seriously cool back country trip he took on the Mae Hong Son Loop on his KTM 525 EXC.

 

Here’s the story link:  http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-forum/threads/the-mae-hong-son-loop-the-dirty-way.375/

 

   And this is is his bike.

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On 6/17/2018 at 5:02 AM, Damrongsak said:

When I was in Thailand in 1977/78, I had a Suzuki TS 125 2-stroke dual sport. There were a lot of dirt roads in Loei back then.

I am probably going back to Indonesia. Had a TS in 1999-200 and they still made TS125 up to around 2003. I'm thinking seriously as one can now easily get a pipe and some reeds and... 

Riding to work in the rain is the big factor. If I'm stuck with a company apartment within walking distance then in someways better except for the dog!

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2 hours ago, Kohsamida said:

Trying to figure out where the dealer is in Chiang Mai that you mentioned in another post.  You said it was on the northbound side of 108 near Makro.  Someone replied to you saying he found it just south of there, across from Farang Village.  Is this the dealership (see attached photos)?  It has a different phone number than the one you mentioned for Goong.  Tried calling her but couldn't get through.  Couldn't get the other number either 😞

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