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Plant Based Nutrition and Fasting

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I wanted to start this thread because I have become passionate about these two aspects of health and want to share what I've learned as well as exchange ideas with other like-minded people on these subject.  Please understand that I want this to be about science-based information, not the usual scammy stuff that litters the internet written by self-proclaimed "gurus", who, more often than not, are simply trying to get your money by selling you diets, books, or supplements.  Of equal importance, I want it to be as genuinely science-based as possible rather than simply anecdotal or loose conjecture. 

 

To my way of thinking, many of today's major health problems can be attributed to poor nutrition.  The problem is that many modern-day physicians are poorly educated in nutrition, and even professional nutritionists are often not the best source of information.  It is therefore up to the individual to take responsibility for their OWN health.

 

Unfortunately, that's easier said than done.  The internet is littered with all sort of health gurus and self-proclaimed experts promising cures and solutions to almost every health problem and most of them are a waste of time and money.  What's worse is that these people literally overwhelm the internet with their nonsense claims, biased studies, or outright lies, making it almost impossible to search for valid, genuinely science-based information.  In starting this topic, I simply want a place that can be free of that, and aimed at the special needs of Farangs.  I mean, aside from the difficulties I described, there are additional challenges imposed by living here in Thailand, compared with western countries.

 

Hopefully this topic can remain focused on 1) Plant-based nutrition, and 2) Therapeutic fasting for health (i.e.: autophagy).

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Oh yes, I forgot. I do regular water fasting too. I have been a proponent of fasting (juice fasting too) for about 25 years. It can be a life saver when used appropriately.

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A great topic - thank you for starting it.

 

I have not found a single restaurant in Chiang Mai yet that is plant based with no oil, no salt and no sugar.

 

So I basically eat at home with organic fruits and vegetables from my garden.

 

 

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Wow. I do admire your determination but I do so much eating and drinking and talking shit around the floor covered in all sorts of delicious food. I just want to ask are you happy...if so good on you. For me I will problem go out a bit earlier but with a big smile on my face. Cheers good thread

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45 minutes ago, TravelerEastWest said:

A great topic - thank you for starting it.

 

I have not found a single restaurant in Chiang Mai yet that is plant based with no oil, no salt and no sugar.

 

So I basically eat at home with organic fruits and vegetables from my garden.

 

 

Personally, speaking at first I tried to be strictly plant-based with absolutely no animal proteins, dairy, oil, salt, sugar, etc,  but it became obvious pretty quickly to me that it was not going to work that way if I wanted to enjoy what I was eating or have any sort of social life.  Fact is, I love to eat and I enjoy the social aspects of it as well.

 

I'm comfortable with following basic principals of a plant-based lifestyle with a little flexibility thrown in to meet an occasion.  I don't think you need to be 100% plant-based for it to still give you a healthy lifestyle.  My mantra is simply to never take anything to extremes.

 

In that light, I think there are plenty of great places here in Chiang Mai to eat out, and many of them will alter a recipe for you if you ask.

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41 minutes ago, Chrisfromoz said:

Wow. I do admire your determination but I do so much eating and drinking and talking shit around the floor covered in all sorts of delicious food. I just want to ask are you happy...if so good on you. For me I will problem go out a bit earlier but with a big smile on my face. Cheers good thread

Thanks; but I happen to feel the same way about food as you.  I LOVE eating and I greatly enjoy the social aspects of eating.  I always have.  The only difference now is a fundamental change in what I eat. 

 

Most people are pleasantly surprised when they find out just how tasty plant-based dishes can be if done properly.  You'd be surprised how similar a veggie-burger can taste to a real beef burger if it's done the right way, for instance.

 

Of course, I am not a strict Vegan.  I don't believe in extremes, and I don't think you need to be 100 % Vegan to enjoy its' benefits.  For anything to be sustainable in the long run, there has to be some flexibility.

 

If there was ever a place to find other like-minded people to "talk shit around a table covered in all sorts of delicious food", Chiang Mai is the place, with all the Vegans living here and all of the fine Vegan restaurants.   

 

And even if you don't live in Chiang Mai, the plant-based lifestyle is growing all around the world exponentially because it's not just a fad diet that's here today and gone tomorrow; it's the real deal.

 

Living longer by eating this way is not my motive.  I eat this way so that I can feel good, stay active, and enjoy life to its' fullest before that last day comes for me, and I expect to have a smile on my face as well 🙂

 

BTW, I like your forum name.  Cheers to you too!

 

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Fasting is one of the most under appreciated and easiest diet/health protocols you can use. Short (16 hours) &  longer extended fasts have many health benefits, it works for me. 

That and reduce amount of things eaten from a packet! Simple 55

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41 minutes ago, HeavyHands said:

Fasting is one of the most under appreciated and easiest diet/health protocols you can use. Short (16 hours) &  longer extended fasts have many health benefits, it works for me. 

That and reduce amount of things eaten from a packet! Simple 55

Yes I totally agree.   I was interested to read brief reports on the recent studies of daily 16 hr fasts. This closly parallels my lifestyle most days in Thailand. With the heat in Thailand I frequently do not feel like eating an evening meal and often, around 4 to 6 days out of 7, I just do not eat after lunch which may be  between 1pm & 3pm.  As my next proper meal is not til 8.30  to 10.00 am next day, I am well into the 16 hours fast.  

This happened to me because I came here 15-20 +?? kg over weight and found the daily heat made me generally less hungry and particularly less hungry for a big evening meal of any sort.  As I was sort-of trying to lose some weight, I just thought "if I am not hungry, why not miss that evening meal. I might lose a bit of my overweight."    I  lost 14 kg and apart from holidays back home to temperate climates I have kept it up (down???) as long as I stay in Thailand and live on the farm.  I am absolutely NOT a vegetarian and at 90kg +/- 1 to 2 kg, I currently hold to 13 -15 kg lower than the  figure that was my norm for close to 10 years before I moved here 4.5 years ago.

 

Note that Monks more or less do the same in not starting a meal after 12 noon.    But many of them load up with sugary drinks  at all hours of the day to compensate.  Also, they cannot  really control their diet easily as they have to eat what people donate, not what they would necessarily prefer to eat.   Some monks with Diabetes, stomach ulcers or other medical conditions suffer poor health as their metabolism cannot adjust to / tolerate this religious regime.

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