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1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

What we have in the UK now is very different from what you describe. I hate to repeat myself, but my neighbour recently took the cheapest quote for some garden landscaping. One guy was in charge of 8 Romanians (who all share a caravan), and the job they did was awful.  They were all farmers. I actually overheard the guy leading them teaching them how to mix cement.

My neighbour regrets taking the cheap quote now, because of the shoddy workmanship and the length of time it took.

 

Who benefits from this? (apart from the Romanians' wives back on the farm in Sud Muntenia)

Your mate’s an idiot.

 

So let’s quit the EU.

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14 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Just because other countries suffer as a result of the EU FOM policy, it doesn't mean the UK has to continue suffering too. Once we have left we can implement a skills based immigration policy.

 

yes, quite right you are, she can, but will it ever happen?

I think very firmly no  you may, of course, think very firmly differently

 

cheap Poles are in UK to stay is my view, but by all means - might be wrong here

 

you know

if you look back a few years; there are things that surfaced in the society that probably should not or did not have to surface

but once there - it never disappears

 

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50 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

Not concern me?

As I stated above - several countries in Europe experience the same

The problems described are not unique to UK.

 

 

Or do you move that it should be the exclusive right of UK citizenship holders to comment on UK and Brexit related issues?

(is there a smell of brown political attitudes here?)

No concern to me, Brexit and associated problems? Do you think UK is an isolated island in Europe

or are you quite simply politically brown and want to dictate who should be concerned and not be concerned?

 

If it amuses you I can easily avoid dropping comments inn this thread, no sweat.

 

 Sorry? I did’t realise you're a none U.K citizen, this explains your points of veiw.

 Strangely this and similar threads do attract many none Brits, who are very concerned,should we leave the hated E.U. I cannot possible think why.555

 Regarding commenting on other countries, I tend to think it’s not my business, what other countries do, it’s up to their citizens. 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

 Sorry? I did’t realise you're a none U.K citizen, this explains your points of veiw.

 Strangely this and similar threads do attract many none Brits, who are very concerned,should we leave the hated E.U. I cannot possible think why.555

 Regarding commenting on other countries, I tend to think it’s not my business, what other countries do, it’s up to their citizens. 

 

 

 

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If no other or a negligible quantity of UK citizens agreed with his point of view, then your point could be valid. But that is clearly not the case. Also, given that there are  is at least 1 prolific Brexiteer on this thread who claims that UK industry can do without J.I.T. or that the industry in the  UK can duplicate all products currently produced overseas and do without imports altogether, (and no Brexiteers to contradict him!), it's clear it's best to stick to the validity of the arguments rather than the national identity of the parties contributing to this thread. The quality of one's knowledge and thinking do not depend on one's nationality.

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35 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

yes, quite right you are, she can, but will it ever happen?

I think very firmly no  you may, of course, think very firmly differently

 

cheap Poles are in UK to stay is my view, but by all means - might be wrong here

 

you know

if you look back a few years; there are things that surfaced in the society that probably should not or did not have to surface

but once there - it never disappears

 

I think after Brexit, once things have settled down and a few years have passed, those migrants who came here to settle and add value to the UK economy will do just that. Perhaps even the more committed Eastern Europeans who originally came offering low skilled cheap labour will have become skilled, and will be charging the going rate (check the effect of upskilling workforces in India for outsourcing).

 

Those who pop over to make a few quid to buy another cow for the farm back home while putting skilled tradesman out of work will no longer be able to do so.  

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30 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

 Sorry? I did’t realise you're a none U.K citizen, this explains your points of veiw.

 Strangely this and similar threads do attract many none Brits, who are very concerned,should we leave the hated E.U. I cannot possible think why.555

 Regarding commenting on other countries, I tend to think it’s not my business, what other countries do, it’s up to their citizens. 

 

 

 

 

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a few issues here;

 

- No man is an island - don't lose sight of that

 

- Brexit is one of the more interesting political developments in Europe for years, beats abortion in Ireland easily

 

- Developments within UK and between UK and EU are very closely followed by others

 

- UK  is a significant country in Europe, what takes place with UK affects the rest of Europe

 

- What takes place in other countries is their business and not mine? - fair enough

  still, Europe (not least the UK) has the impertinence to comment on Trump and his doings within and outside US

  and even commenting on Kim in upper Korea

 

- Non UKers engaging in Brexit shows that they care - should not be dismissed

 

- it is presently unclear what UK wants - should she think in direction of EFTA (and EEA) a small handful of other countries

  would be directly affected

 

- again - no man is an island, at least not in Europe today

 

 

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the laughing emoticon?

 

means

 

a) be relaxed and open minded - learn to laugh of your mistakes

 

b) what a ridiculoius comment'

 

c) ha!  that was a funny comment

 

have your pick

 

 

sorry - tired now - must sleep - good night

 

 

 

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50 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

a few issues here;

 

- No man is an island - don't lose sight of that

 

- Brexit is one of the more interesting political developments in Europe for years, beats abortion in Ireland easily

 

- Developments within UK and between UK and EU are very closely followed by others

 

- UK  is a significant country in Europe, what takes place with UK affects the rest of Europe

 

- What takes place in other countries is their business and not mine? - fair enough

  still, Europe (not least the UK) has the impertinence to comment on Trump and his doings within and outside US

  and even commenting on Kim in upper Korea

 

- Non UKers engaging in Brexit shows that they care - should not be dismissed

 

- it is presently unclear what UK wants - should she think in direction of EFTA (and EEA) a small handful of other countries

  would be directly affected

 

- again - no man is an island, at least not in Europe today

 

 

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I take my hat off to you for a fine response to this tricky question. Most people have shied away from answering, or gone into defense/aggression mode.

 

I particularly like these bits:

 

- UK  is a significant country in Europe, what takes place with UK affects the rest of Europe

- Non UKers engaging in Brexit shows that they care - should not be dismissed

 

Many remainers would have us believe the UK is insignificant, and that the EU / EU members states would be happy to see us simply walk away with no deal.  

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

I take my hat off to you for a fine response to this tricky question. Most people have shied away from answering, or gone into defense/aggression mode.

 

I particularly like these bits:

 

- UK  is a significant country in Europe, what takes place with UK affects the rest of Europe

- Non UKers engaging in Brexit shows that they care - should not be dismissed

 

Many remainers would have us believe the UK is insignificant, and that the EU / EU members states would be happy to see us simply walk away with no deal.  

 

 

 

 

Many Remainers are looking at the utter chaos that has resulted in what was billed as 'the easiest negotiations in human history' and drawing the conclusion that the post Brexit negotiations for trade deals are going to be an even bigger farce. 

 

But what do Brexiteers care, their bravery in the face of other people losing their jobs it's to be admired.

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2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Just because other countries suffer as a result of the EU FOM policy, it doesn't mean the UK has to continue suffering too. Once we have left we can implement a skills based immigration policy.

The problem about ending FOM to protect UK jobs is that there are about 2,800,000 UK jobs that depend on FOM and/or the single market to exist. There are also 1.5 million UK citizens in Europe (inc me!) who really on FOM  to live and work.

 

So you might stop a few dodgy Polish builders coming here, but you'll kill a good number of other people's jobs in the process !

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